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Administrators' newsletter – December 2021
News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2021).
Administrator changes
Technical news
- Unregistered editors using the mobile website are now able to receive notices to indicate they have talk page messages. The notice looks similar to what is already present on desktop, and will be displayed on when viewing any page except mainspace and when editing any page. (T284642)
- The limit on the number of emails a user can send per day has been made global instead of per-wiki to help prevent abuse. (T293866)
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- Voting in the 2021 Arbitration Committee Elections is open until 23:59, 06 December 2021 (UTC).
- The already authorized standard discretionary sanctions for all pages relating to the Horn of Africa (defined as including Ethiopia, Somalia, Eritrea, Djibouti, and adjoining areas if involved in related disputes), broadly construed, have been made permanent.
December 2021 GOCE Newsletter
Guild of Copy Editors December 2021 Newsletter
  Hello and welcome to the December GOCE newsletter, a brief update of Guild activities since September 2021. Current and upcoming events
Election time: Our end-of-year election of coordinators opened for nominations on 1 December and will close on 15 December at 23:59 (UTC). Voting opens at 00:01 the following day and will continue until 31 December at 23:59, just before "Auld Lang Syne". Coordinators normally serve a six-month term and are elected on an approval basis. Self-nominations are welcome. If you've thought of helping out at the Guild, or know of another editor who would make a good coordinator, please consider standing for election or nominating them here. December Blitz: We have scheduled a week-long copy-editing blitz for 12 to 18 December. Sign up now! Drive and Blitz reports
September Drive: Almost 400,000 words of articles were copy edited for this event. Of the 27 people who signed up, 21 copyedited at least one article. Final results and awards are listed here. October Blitz: From 17 to 23 October, we copy edited articles tagged in May and June 2021 and requests. 8 participating editors completed 26 copy edits on the blitz. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here. November Drive: Over 350,000 words of articles were copy edited for this event. Of the 21 people who signed up, 14 copyedited at least one article. Final results and awards are listed here. Other news
It is with great sadness that we report the death on 19 November of Twofingered Typist, who was active with the Guild almost daily for the past several years. His contributions long exceeded the thresholds for the Guild's highest awards, and he had a hand in innumerable good and featured article promotions as a willing collaborator. Twofingered Typist also served as a Guild coordinator from July 2019 to June 2021. He is sorely missed by the Wikipedia community. Progress report: As of 30 November, GOCE copyeditors have completed 619 requests in 2021 and there were 51 requests awaiting completion on the Requests page. The backlog stood at 946 articles tagged for copy-editing (see monthly progress graph above). Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators Jonesey95, Dhtwiki, Tenryuu, and Miniapolis. To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.
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Distributed via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:02, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
Why is stating that Emma Portner uses they/them and she/her as pronouns considered to be poorly sourced when the source is literally Emma's own Instagram profile?
As stated in the question, I would like to know in simplest terms why it's considered poorly sourced? I would just like it if you can help me understand your reasoning. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C5:A212:3B00:2562:CA2:F578:B36C (talk) 05:49, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
- Very simply: because I missed the notation "they/she" on the page. Feel free to repeat the edit. General Ization Talk 05:57, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
What
I literally just added the sources now wtf, please be patient. She posted a YouTube video that she is now married on her wedding day, did you even check?!! Ashleygoldxo (talk) 01:32, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Ashleygoldxo: See WP:BURDEN. It is your responsibility, not mine or any other editor's, to find and cite sources to support the content you add. If you do not, and it is contentious information about a living person (such as marriage or death), it is our responsibility to remove it. General Ization Talk 01:35, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
regarding youth orchestra list edits
In response to "Also, you were adding the organizations to a list article. That is a separate issue from determining whether or not an organization is notable and deserving of an article. General Ization Talk 03:08, 15 December 2021 (UTC)"
The editor who deleted my entry (and numerous others that are properly cited) did so because they do not have articles, which is not a valid reason to delete an addition to a list; especially when the page specifies that links are the only thing necessary. That is why the edit cites WP:NEXIST. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jediwashington (talk • contribs) 03:24, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Jediwashington: I assure you that the editor who reverted your edits is much more familiar with Wikipedia policies and practices than you currently are. WP:NEXIST pertains to the evaluation of notability, not to the addition of entries in list articles. Their reversions were correct. See WP:WTAF and WP:BURDEN. General Ization Talk 03:30, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker)Even if consensus on that list were to include entries without articles (which has not been the case for many years) you were adding completely unsourced entries. Meters (talk) 03:31, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
Titans origin discursion
According to several of the mythic traditions that concern us, before the present gods ruled in heaven there was a different set, still known as gods but no longer active in the world. In Greek myth they are identified as the Titans. Hesiod applies to them the expression ‘the former gods’, θεοὶ πρότεροι (Th. 424, 486). The Rigveda too knows of ‘former gods’, pūrve devā́ḥ (1.164.50, identified as the ‘Sādhyas’; 7.21.7; 10.90.16, 109.4, 191.2). They dwelt in heaven before the present gods arrived there, and they submitted their powers to the supreme dominion of Indra. Both gods and Sādhyas are ruled by Indra (AV 7.79.2).
There are equally old or older allusions to ‘former gods’ (karuilies siunes) in Hittite texts. The Hittites identified them with the infernal gods of the Babylonian pantheon, the Anunnaki, and their image is strongly coloured by Mesopotamian myth mediated through Hurrian culture. The title Former Gods, however, seems to be specifically Hittite, and may therefore be inherited. Like Hesiod’s Titans, the karuilies siunes are confined in the underworld by gates which they cannot open. They are sometimes said to be seven or nine in number, but most often twelve, like the Titans.
According to a ritual text they were driven down to the lower world by the Storm-god, the chief deity of the ruling pantheon. In Hesiod’s account the Titans are imprisoned at the instance of Zeus following their defeat in a war which they fought against the Olympian gods; a Homeric allusion (Il. 14.203f.) refers to Zeus’ setting Kronos below earth and sea. The agreement with the Hittite myth points to an ancient mythical prototype. But the question is complicated. On the one hand, Babylonian myth, at least from the time of Enūma eliš (late second millennium), presents a parallel story, that the Anunnaki were confined below the earth by the chief god, Marduk. It could be argued that both the Hittite and the Greek myths derive from the Babylonian. On the other hand, other Indo-European traditions tell of a conflict in which the dominant gods defeated a rival set, and we must entertain the possibility of an Indo-European origin for the motif. It is a priori likely that people who recognized an order of Former Gods had some account of the events that caused them to be deposed.
You can also find a comparable Indo-European story in the battle between the Æsir and Vanir, in Norse texts. 83.213.205.178 (talk) 06:08, 15 December 2021 (UTC)