User talk:Djsasso

Martin Luther

Hello, I don't agree with your decision to make the Martin Luther article a disambiguation page; you probably should've discussed the move on the talk page first. Please move it back and discuss your proposed move on the article's talk page. - BSveen 20:54, Jan 23, 2005 (UTC)

Yeah I didn't realize it would be controversial. Seemed to make sense since thats how most disambiguities are taken care of. I have put it up to have an admin move it back.--Djsasso 21:16, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Northern Ontario

Just for the record, the article on Thunder Bay's daily newspaper has to go at Thunder Bay Chronicle-Journal, because it's not the only newspaper in the world called Chronicle-Journal. "The Chronicle-Journal" with no city name in it needs to be a disambiguation page. Bearcat 11:06, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Then it should be Chronicle-Journal (Thunder Bay) should it not? --Djsasso 05:52, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Ice Hockey

Welcome to the Wikipedia:WikiProject Ice Hockey project. Let me know on my talk page if I can help in any way. Kevin Rector (talk) 13:33, Apr 27, 2005 (UTC)

Hockey minor leagues

Ummm ... no. The terms "AAA", "AA", and "A" refer to official classifications of baseball minor leagues, but there are no such classifications in minor league hockey, despite many people trying to force baseball terminology on the sport.

That being said, in baseball, the AAA-AA-A classification is stable -- leagues like the IL, PCL, EL and NY-PL have been at their levels for many decades -- which cannot be said for hockey minor leagues. Within a 20 year period, the IHL went from a semi-pro league, to the point where some of the crazier owners discussed competing with the NHL, to being defunct, and in that same period, the ECHL went from being just barely above semi-pro level to the second leading minor league in hockey. RGTraynor 20:01, May 20, 2005 (UTC)

Jonathan Cheechoo, Jason Krog, et al.

Hi, I noticed that you listed these articles as copyvios on June 15. I couldn't find any page on NHL.com or NHLPA.com that said they were. Do you have any exact links to pages from which these articles were copied? --Idont Havaname 18:23, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

ABA

Thats not the case, I follow the ABA, EVERY team that is announced they have paid the money for the franchise. You can contact the ABA CEO Joe Newman if you do not take my word for it.

I know Joe Newman ABA CEO does not do that anymore, I spoke with him on the phone before about that, he let some teams get in without paying the money last year, but not this season, he will no longer do that.

Sports userboxes

Can you take a look at the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Userboxes/US_and_Canadian_Sports. -- Jeff3000 03:33, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Reminder on Hockey Infoboxes

From Template:Infobox Ice Hockey Player -

former_teams

Use for other teams the player played for in his CURRENT LEAGUE.

--207.69.137.207 16:41, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually its for highest league played in unless we have changed the standards.--Djsasso 21:55, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

So apparently it has changed...seems silly to mention his minor stuff and ignore the NHL status. Especially when we have the prospect tag to mention the AHL experience. --Djsasso 22:03, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thunder Bay, Ontario

Greetings. I am curious about your rationale for changing [[Thunder Bay, Ontario]] to [[Thunder Bay, Ontario|Thunder Bay]], [[Ontario]] across many articles. On the face of it, I can't say that doing so seems a good idea.
-- Lonewolf BC 04:56, 19 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's just a standard way of doing cities so that both the link to the city and the link the province is clickable. --Djsasso 16:40, 19 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I guessed (as could most anyone) that the idea is to make the province into a separate link. I just don't see that as helpful in most cases. What exactly is the thinking behind it? And whose "standard" is it?
-- Lonewolf BC 22:47, 19 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to VandalProof!

Thank you for your interest in VandalProof, Djsasso! You have now been added to the list of authorized users, so if you haven't already, simply download and install VandalProof from our main page. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me or any other moderator, or you can post a message on the discussion page. Betacommand ^{(talk • contribs • Bot)} 17:30, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ice Hockey/Player pages format

Hello, Djsasso. What's you opinon on my compromise proposal? I admit, it's not the perfect solution (it may even anger, editors on both sides of the debate). I just want to end the diacriticals dispute, it's be going on for a year. GoodDay 21:46, 8 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I do agree that it needs to get solved and I like your idea but I think I like the opposite of what you are suggesting. I think the title of the article should shill have the diactrics etc but that they should make it "english" inside the article. I never use them in articles but I do very much believe in seeing them in the name of the article. --Djsasso 21:50, 8 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My idea for English title, is based on English Wikipedia as a whole. What's your view on different treatment for Euro/French NHL personnel & former NHL personnel? GoodDay 21:57, 8 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

To be honest in the most part it doesn't matter to me which way we go. I just feel being that it is a proper name you leave it the way it is in their native language out of respect. However, as far as your proposal goes yeah that could work but I don't think anyone will really see the difference. --Djsasso 22:00, 8 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How about adding to my compromise proposal on the Players page format. Editors on both sides of debate (as we are), seen in agreement, may encourage others to join in. Give the compromise proposal a bi-partisan touch. GoodDay 22:10, 8 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Djsasso. Now, there might be move to a compromise (here's hoping). GoodDay 22:21, 8 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You should check out Krm500's compromise, at my talk page. I think Krm500's compromise, should be given an Afc at Wikipedia: WikiProject Ice Hockey/Player pages format. GoodDay 23:15, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

NHL player nationalities: categories

The standard for categorization is by nationality, not by birthplace -- there are too many players in the NHL whose nationality isn't the birthplace. See Wikipedia:WikiProject Ice Hockey/Player pages format -- "Each player should have a category for their nationality" (it does NOT say "birthplace"). Because not all nations have jus soli law (which grants citizenship based on birth -- for example, I'm an ethnic Chinese-born Canadian who is ineligible for Chinese citizenship), the current standard is to place both the birthplace nation and the player's current nationality in categories. (See Dany Heatley for an example.) Otherwise, it can lead to some complications:

The main reason for this is it's misleading to categorize a player by birthplace, because birthplace can happen completely by accident, and also because it's misleading to assume a player has connections to his birthplace but not the place where he was raised (Robyn Regehr is an example -- he's never considered Brazilian, just Brazilian-born). -→Buchanan-Hermit™/?! 00:32, 16 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes but the point of the categories as I understood it from the previous discussion. (I forget where though) was that it was to be a grouping by birthplace as the info box gives the nationalities. Regehr is a perfect example as he is listed in the Brazilian category. As are many others. There is a good 20+ example of this already. That you can see hey how many players were born in Venezuela or whereever. --Djsasso 15:52, 16 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That being said I have no problem with BOTH being listed. But I objected to his only listing Canada. --Djsasso 15:53, 16 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, from what I understand, nationality is also determined by international play and that birthplace is not the absolute determiner of that. But yeah, I have no problem listing both categories either, since many other similar Wikipedia articles do exactly the same thing (by listing both birthplace and place of citizenship). -→Buchanan-Hermit™/?! 18:03, 16 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WPP

Your recent posting about the Arbitration Committee, intrigued me. You seemed to suggest an AC ruling (if against you), wouldn't be respected? GoodDay 20:26, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No thats not what it meant at all. I meant that the Arbitration Committee isn't used to create new policy. They just enforce old policy. For example if you are having an edit war with another user for example. I'll go with whatever consensus is reached. --Djsasso 20:31, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hold it, let's not start a war about the AC's purpose. Back to Diacritics. There are 'pro-English' editors willing to compromise on the Euro NHL bio articles titles. Indeed Krm500 (a pro-diacritic) editor, offered a compromise (which wasn't given a chance). Why won't you 'pro-diacritics' accept compromise in this dispute. Why do you 'pro-diacritics' editors prefer the bickering over a compromise? 20:50, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

To be quite honest I agree with his compromise which was the compromise that was decided on a year or two ago. Most of us let this issue drop a long time ago. Which is why Nitty's page had diacritics in the title and not in the article. This issue was dead a long time ago but every so often someone comes and tries and argue it again and all the fuss starts back up again. --Djsasso 20:52, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What was the problem then, with adding that compromise idea to the Wikipedia: WikiProject Ice Hockey/Player pages format? Your fellow 'pro-diacritic' editors, rejected it. Their argument was WikiProjects had no authority over articles. GoodDay 21:14, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Those 'pro-diacritic' editors in question, were 'Elisson' & 'coeLacan'. GoodDay 21:19, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I must have missed where they said don't put it up there because all I see is them arguing their side of the arguement. Heck I even see Elisson trying to come up with a compromise. But the reason its not on the format page is cause no one truely agrees so there is no true concensus only compromise so thus it doesn't get put up. --Djsasso 21:20, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I guess each Euro NHL player article will decide its own title, there no way around it. If this flairs up again (if?), would the Mediation Committee be the answer? PS- I won't start the next fire. GoodDay 21:35, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Calgary Wikipedia meetup

Just a reminder that the Calgary Wikipedia meetup is this Sunday, 2pm, at Haymarket Café (1101 Macleod Trail SE). —GrantNeufeld 03:17, 26 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Calgary

Was there consensus fro changing infoboxes on that page? I didn't know anything about it. Kevlar67 20:14, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]