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Charles E. Mills Secondary School

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The article has four references. All of which are either primary, extremely trivial, dead links, blog posts, or some combination of the four. I couldn't find anything about it in a WP:BEFORE either except a few extremely trivial name drops in school directories and an article about their sports team. None of which works for notability. Maybe someone can find references that do work for notability though. Otherwise, I think the article should be deleted. Adamant1 (talk) 18:55, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Education-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 19:07, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 19:07, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Caribbean-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 19:07, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - School is the subject of multiple instances of significant coverage in the St. Kitts and Nevis press (i.e., national-level coverage), see, e.g., 1 2 3 4 5 6 7. Clear WP:GNG pass. FOARP (talk) 19:46, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The first reference is extremely trivial, the second and third are blog posts, the forth is a statement from the school principle, the fifth is a blog post from the source as the other blog posts, the sixth is about their sports team and might work, but not on it's own, and the last reference is yet another blog post from the same source as the other ones. Not to mention it's about a couple of kids being wounded in a school yard. Which is extremely run of the mill. Wikipedia isn't a news source. So essentially we have one reference that is barely usable if at all and a bunch of WP:NOTNEWS articles from a blog that don't work for notability. Oh, and a statement from the principle that is primary and doesn't work for notability either. So in no way is this the subject of multiple instances of significant coverage or a "clear WP:GNG pass." The last reference in particular says literally nothing about the school except for name dropping it in the headline. So nothing is significant about it. --Adamant1 (talk) 22:58, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't agree that is a "blog", it appears to be a WP:NEWSORG. Based on this article it does have an editorship structure and does issue corrections/apologies/retractions.

I also don't agree that coverage of the sports teams of CEMSS is trivial coverage, especially national-level coverage of multiple sports successes at the school. Sports education is clearly part of a school's remit and so coverage of sports is coverage of the school. CEMSS is one of only 6 high schools in St. Kitts and Nevis, which has no university, so it is not surprising that it (and its sports teams) should be treated as worth covering by the SKN press.

Searching the former name of the school also brings up references covering its 50th anniversary (e.g., 8 9) as well as a USAID report with coverage of the school. FOARP (talk) 09:39, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Blogs retract statements sometimes. That's not really what makes something a blog or not. Nor does someone retracting something once mean there's an "editorship structure." As far as what does make something a blog, according to WP:Blog "A blog (a truncation of "weblog") is a discussion or informational website published on the World Wide Web consisting of discrete, often informal diary-style text entries (posts). Posts are typically displayed in reverse chronological order, so that the most recent post appears first, at the top of the web page." Which literally describes www.sknvibes.com. If we can't go with how Wikipedia defines a blog to determine if something is one or not then I'm not really sure why we are doing this.

As far as the the article on the sports team goes, 99% of it is an interview with the coach and he doesn't say anything about the school in the interview. Just to pick a random quote from the interview, he says "The group of coaches I spoke about earlier, their friends offer support, if one athlete in particular is late for training or don’t want to train, their friends would remind them that they have training as well as the fans we got who would offer them support.” Where is the school being talked about at all in that quote? Interviews aren't usable for notability anyway even if it did have anything to do with the school. If you disagree, then make an article about the sports team if that's what most of the coverage is about. The sports team isn't the school though. We can't have a blank article except for a section on their track and field team. It's undue weight and that's not the topic of the article. --Adamant1 (talk) 13:34, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]