Talk:Zeotropic mixture
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There is a slight confusion at the start of the article; since it started with defining zeotropic mixtures as mixtures that never have vapor and liquid composition at the vapor-liquid equilibrium, and explaining azeotropic mixtures by having curves that do not touch on the liquid and vapor composition vs. temperature graph, which makes it very hard to relate the two definitions. Also, the two references that were used weren't enough to give a lot of information about the topic, and since they were both published a long time ago, adding some recent references would help the article. To add on that, a list of examples and a clear comparison between the two types of mixtures could be added to strengthen the article since the topic was underrepresented.H walaa (talk) 08:41, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
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Adding Applications and Additional References
To begin, I want to add a couple of applications of zeotropic mixture in industry, such as applications in power generation[1][2], distillation[3], and refrigeration[4]. Under the existing subheading "Relevance," there are a couple of facts that contradict with what I read about distillation and refrigerants. I read that distillation is possible and useful with zeotropic mixtures[3], and that zeotropic mixtures are possibly advantageous as refrigerants[4], which seems to contradict with the current wikipedia article. Because there seems to be much research on distillation, refrigeration, and other applications of zeotropic mixtures in industry, I wish to describe and look into these industrial applications on the wikipedia article (e.g. how refrigeration works, and how zeotropic mixtures play a role).
In addition, I want to find references for the information under the existing subheading "Occurences" and the information listed in the introductory paragraph (that defines and describes zeotropic mixtures). I plan on rephrasing the definition of zeotropic mixture in the introduction to a concise definition about a mixture of substances having different boiling points[4]. Also, I want to replace the first external link (URL seems to be outdated). Lastly, I plan on finding a reference for the 2 existing graphs (having trouble finding the graph in the cited source). MissAndrea (talk) 05:31, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
References
- ^ Wang, J.L.; Zhao, L.; Wang, X.D. (November 2010). "A comparative study of pure and zeotropic mixtures in low-temperature solar Rankine cycle". Applied Energy. 87 (11): 3366–3373. doi:10.1016/j.apenergy.2010.05.016.
{{cite journal}}:|access-date=requires|url=(help) - ^ Aghahosseini, S.; Dincer, I. (May 2013). "Comparative performance analysis of low-temperature Organic Rankine Cycle (ORC) using pure and zeotropic working fluids". Applied Thermal Engineering. 54 (1): 35–42. doi:10.1016/j.applthermaleng.2013.01.028. Retrieved 23 January 2017.
- ^ a b Vogelpohl; Alfons (2015). Distillation - The Theory. De Gruyter. p. 76. ISBN 978-3-11-029284-8. Retrieved 23 January 2017.
- ^ a b c Gaspar; Pedro Dinis; da Silva; Pedro Dinho (2015). Handbook of Research on Advances and Applications in Refrigeration Systems and Technologies. IGI Global. p. 244. ISBN 978-1-4666-8398-3. Retrieved 23 January 2017.
Peer Review
Grammar and spelling seem good. This article definitely can use more sources, and a lot of statements need citations. I think you could work on organization better, such as creating headings and subheadings. It's good that you have included pictures, but just make sure they are relevant to the message you are trying to convey in the subsection in which they occur. They seem to be arbitrarily placed and somewhat forced. I really like how you included links to other wikipedia pages, it helps to provide context to uniformed readings. One final thing, your first external link is a dead link. Keep up the good work! Forbisl (talk) 22:31, 14 February 2017 (UTC) Logan Forbis
Reading the article overall sounds good. There is plenty of room for additional sections that may help flesh out Zeotropic mixtures and how they apply to the field of engineering. The photos that are included in the topic are good graphics to have, one of them seem to be missing a citation though. You could potentially add specific examples of Zeotropic mixtures, who discovered them, and maybe a brief history behind the chemistry. Overall it looks like a great start with plenty of room to expand.Rmason81 (talk) 22:29, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
Response to Peer Reviews
First there was mentioned that some sentences needed citation, thus the references were added, in the introduction to be precise. Also, the some of the pictures weren't relevant to the section they were placed in. So, they were moved to a better relating section such as the graph comparing between the vapor-liquid equilibrium of zeoptropic and azeotropic mixtures. There was also a section added to further explain the differences between zeotropic and azeotropic mixtures in an abstract form at the end of the article, and any confusing pieces of information in the other sections that would work best in a comparative section were moved. Also, links to other wikipedia pages were added as suggested like: azeotropic mixtures, and ASHRAE.H walaa (talk) 00:21, 23 February 2017 (UTC). To add on that, it was mentioned that the first first external link did not work and that was fixed.H walaa (talk) 00:23, 23 February 2017 (UTC). Furthermore, azeotropic mixture examples were added with some of their uses.H walaa (talk) 00:29, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
- For the final review of the article, we tried to add as much external links of pages that are relevant to the topic,but the list of refrigerants and azeotrope were the most relevant and beneficial to the article. We also tried to improve the flow of the article to make it easier to read by moving certain sentences to other sections that were more relevant.H walaa (talk) 03:11, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
In response to the comment on the peer review about needing to add citations, I added a citation to a statement that had no source, and removed statements that couldn't be referenced (or had incorrect references). About needing more sources, the section "Organic Rankine Cycle" now has more citations for each statement, and there are more sources used and cited for this section. Similarly, the section "Cleaning Processes" has more sources used and cited. The All major sections have more than one reference (balanced representation of sources). All of the links now work. As for adding more headings, the section "Cleaning Processes" now has subheadings within that section. As for adding examples, "Cleaning Processes" now has examples of zeotropic solvents. MissAndrea (talk) 00:43, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
- For the final draft, we cited the figures to the best of our ability. The pictures were from Wikimedia commons, which was the only place we were allowed to get pictures from, so I pulled information from Wikimedia commons about who uploaded the figure and the date. In addition, the original article asked us to "clarify" the article, so we explained the original topics about dew and bubble points, distillation, and refrigeration in a manner we thought an "average" reader could understand, while linking new key terms to other Wikipedia articles if understanding those key terms required background knowledge. MissAndrea (talk) 03:12, 1 March 2017 (UTC)