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Cruise ships are an environmental disaster. There needs to be a section on this.


Ugly great things, and with a propensity to flood nice places with hundreds of morons all at once, too :-)


I disagree. They're not ugly. ;-)


Environmental Disaster? I bet you love your car too.

--- Where are statistics on how much food is on a cruise ship?

Added statistics on food consumption. Gsloan 02:26, 30 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Add that the ancient Egyptians had a form of Cruise Ship?

--- Added link to "External Links" "Types of Cruiselines." Removed link to Discount Cruises

anti-piracy acoustic device?

An attack late last year against a luxury cruise liner was repelled by an ear-splitting acoustic device. is this common on luxry cruise ships? [1] StrengthCoach 18:14, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

i heard that the pirates were on dingys and the cruise liner just outran them

Cruise Ship Terminals

There is no mention of where a cruise goes, or the requirements for larger cruise ships such as superyachts and luxury liners. This is a very important environmental, economic and geographical issue. The installation of Cruise Ship Terminals greatly affects the surrounding environment insofar as depth, sea walls, and habitat for various aquatic organisms such as fish and aquatic vegetation. AQjosh

Environmental Disaster

they are an environmental disaster. they dump raw sewage directly into the ocean (without any treatment) which pollutes waters. they also carry invasive species from one habitat to another. this is a major threat to biodiversity. i was actually looking at the cruise ships article to find out more.

Sounds interesting. I don't know anything about that. Why don't you add what you know, to give people a framework to add more? -- Aaronwinborn 13:36, 17 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree - whilst on Carnival's Fantasy the other month, they claimed in a video on-board that all sewage onboard the ship is treated with chemicals before being flushed into the sea. On short cruises, and where available, it claimed that the sewage is usually stored and then transported (im assuming via a tube/pipe) to a truck, and then sent to a special facility to clean the waste. However, it could be all rubbish, and they're trying to sound good, as I cant say that you could prove it without working for them. -- pmhtuk 20.27, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
I worked on cruise ships 20 years ago. All sewage was treated even then prior to being pumped over board. On the SS Oriana and SS Canberra the holds the had previously been used for cargo in their days as passenger liners were filled with aerobic digestion tanks. No doubt environmental legislation since then has made the requirements for sewage treatment even greater- some enclosed waters I believe do prohibit the pumping out of treated sewage and tanks haved to be pumped out ashore. And as far as transporting invasive creatures from one place to another, all shipping has the potential to do that- not just cruise ships. Ballast water, pumped into ballast tanks in one area of the world and discharged in another, has long been recognised as a source of invasive species. Various organisations such as the US Environmental Protection Agency and the International Maritime Organisation are working towards solutions for this problem. All of the major cruise ship operators spend a lot of money making their ships as environmentally friendly as possible, including the design of their engines. Many modern ships have been fitted with Gas Turbines for operation in environmentally sensitive areas, as these engine, although very much more expensive to run, produce less pollutants and visible smoke. Advances in diesel engine technology have also resulted in much lower emissions [2]. I would suggest that the person who chose to remain anonymous should do some research and quote sources before posting comments like those above.--Dashers 23:21, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I must say I read the same thing regarding their negative environmental impact, albeit a year or two ago. I will do a bit of research and see what turns up Tellkel 09:37, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Carnival ships/Hurricane Katrina

The paragraph on the use of Carnival ships for housing Hurricane Katrina victims is too specific for a general article such as this. I propose to move it to the Carnival Cruise Lines page. Kablammo 01:09, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Kablammo 18:32, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think a mention of cruise ships is appropriate. At least a cross reference to the use in natural disasters or the Athens Olymics say.

Way Bigger is Way Better

Is there any place where we can put this information?--Xlegiofalco 14:20, 27 August 2006 (UTC) http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14471443/?GT1=8404[reply]

Norovirus

I think the norovirus episodes need to be mentioned in the history of cruise ships. At the very least a reference to the incidents.

The natural place to mention it would be following:

"As with any vessel, adequate provisioning is crucial, especially on a cruise ship serving several thousand meals at each seating. The amount of food and beverages consumed by a cruise ship on an average seven-day voyage is staggering. Passengers and crew on the Royal Caribbean International ship Mariner of the Seas consume 20,000 pounds of beef, 28,000 eggs, 8,000 gallons of ice cream, and 18,000 slices of pizza in a week."

as norovirus is linked to food preparation sanitation.

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