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Quinton JacksonRampage Jackson – Might be a bit of a stretch, but on most UFC and Bellator promotional material, and from a large amount of sources, he is commonly referred to as Rampage Jackson. ♡RAFAEL♡(talk) 00:07, 18 August 2021 (UTC) — Relisting. Bada Kaji (talk • श्रीमान् गम्भीर) 18:53, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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vs. Fedor Emelianenko at Bellator 237

@NEDOCHAN: @Cassiopeia: Alright here is why I believe the fight result should be listed as KO. I think this table shows a consensus that the majority of the sources have it listed as KO. (Reminder: Sherdog is NOT the only source you can use for fight results, so throw that argument out of the window.)

Source method (KO) ref Source method (TKO) ref
mmajunkie.usatoday.com KO [1] mmafighting.com TKO [2]
sportingnews.com knockout [3] sherdog.com (fighter records) TKO (punches) [4]
mmamania.com KO [5] mma-core.com TKO (punches) [6]
bleacherreport.com KO (punches) [7]
cagesidepress.com KO (Right Straight) [8]
lowkickmma.com KO (punches) [9]
middleeasy.com KO [10]
themix.com KO (strike) [11]
sherdog.com (live report) KO (punch) [12]
sportskeeda.com KO [13]
fightsports.tv KO [14]
combatpress.com KO (right cross) [15]
livingmma.com KO (punch) [16]

♡RAFAEL♡(talk) 11:11, 22 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

All depends where you look. https://www.dazn.com/en-GLOBAL/news/boxing/rampage-jackson-on-shannon-briggs-i-gotta-shut-his-old-ass-up/qq05bhygs5s11tyutts9v85yw

https://theathletic.com/news/fedor-emelianenko-returning-to-bellator-for-oct-23-bout-in-moscow/bYjekI49jipo/

Anyway, there is a note indicating the discrepancy and consensus as well as the main source seem to indicate TKO.NEDOCHAN (talk) 11:41, 22 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There is no "main source" Sherdog holds the same value as any other source (except in the case of tiebreakers in which it will be used). It's simply the standard, but just because it is the standard doesn't mean it's correct and we aren't allowed to change it, that would go against several wiki policies. Also my sources were from the first two pages of Google results for the search term: "Bellator 237 results". ♡RAFAEL♡(talk) 11:58, 22 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Reverting other editors in favour of your preferred version is against consensus, itself a core policy of Wikipedia. See WP: CONSENSUS.NEDOCHAN (talk) 12:38, 22 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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  2. ^ Newswire, MMA Fighting (2019-12-28). "Bellator 237 Results: Fedor vs. Rampage". MMA Fighting. Retrieved 2022-01-22.
  3. ^ "Bellator 237 results: Fedor Emelianenko knocks out Quinton 'Rampage' Jackson in first round". www.sportingnews.com. Retrieved 2022-01-22.
  4. ^ Sherdog.com. "Quinton". Sherdog. Retrieved 2022-01-22.
  5. ^ stevejuon (2019-12-28). "LIVE! Bellator 237 Results, Streaming Play-By-Play Updates". MMAmania.com. Retrieved 2022-01-22.
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  7. ^ Kasabian, Paul. "Bellator and Rizin Japan 2019 Results: Emelianenko, Chandler Score Knockout Wins". Bleacher Report. Retrieved 2022-01-22.
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  13. ^ Surrao, Lennard. "Bellator 237 Results: MMA Legend retires, Former UFC Champion destroyed in the main event". www.sportskeeda.com. Retrieved 2022-01-22.
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