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January 30

January 30, 2022 (2022-01-30) (Sunday)

Disasters and accidents

Health and environment

International relations

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Sports

RD: Jo Kendall

Article: Jo Kendall (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Metro, Beyond the Joke
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Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: One of the few women in that generation of British comedy, her "John and Mary" sketches with Cleese would always crack me up. There don't seem to be any mainstream obituaries yet but I expect that the BBC will wake up soon. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:40, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

January 29

January 29, 2022 (2022-01-29) (Saturday)

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(Posted) RD: Ralph Mellanby

Article: Ralph Mellanby (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Toronto Sun, TSN
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Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Executive producer of Hockey Night in Canada (1966–85). Joofjoof (talk) 00:17, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) January 2022 North American blizzard

Consensus to post is unlikely to develop.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 13:44, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Article: January 2022 North American blizzard (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A blizzard impacts the Northeastern United States leaving thousands without power. (Post)
News source(s): https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/29/weather/noreaster-bomb-cyclone-storm-saturday/index.html
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Nominator's comments: I think this should be posted until after the storm has ran its course, but I think it's significant due the disruptions it caused. Interstellarity (talk) 21:40, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

(Closed) Tom Brady retirement

No official announcement has yet been made; nomination can be re-opened if confirmed (or renominated if occurs in the future). SpencerT•C 03:47, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Article: Tom Brady (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ National Football League quarterback Tom Brady announces his retirement after 22 seasons. (Post)
News source(s): ESPN
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Article needs updating
Nominator's comments: I am aware this will be controversial. However, we have posted the retirements of top sportspeople before, Alex Ferguson and Sachin Tendulkar, when they are generally considered to be the best in the sport. I think Brady qualifies. I haven't specifed his current team(Tampa Bay Buccaneers) as most of his career was with the New England Patriots, but have no problem with doing so, or other blurb changes. 331dot (talk) 20:19, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - I'm aware this nomination thread will become a calamity due to it being a U.S.-centric item and the NFL to boot. But there are few sportsmen who can legitimately place themselves in the ranks of "greatest of all time", no matter what the sport, unlike Tom Brady.--WaltCip-(talk) 20:21, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong oppose At least with Ferguson and Tendulkar, we're talking international sport and play, so there's a bar of comparison across the globe. With gridiron football, its very limited, and many will argue if Brady is the best of all time there (compared to others like Joe Montana, etc.). --

Masem (t) 20:25, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There's no longer any real comparison between Brady and Montana or any other QB. Montana was the most important player on 4 Super Bowl-winning teams. Brady was the most important player on 7, with 3 other teams that went to the Super Bowl. Brady essentially had a second Hall of Fame career after the age of 38 when Montana retired. It could be argued that Montana faced more restrictive rules and defenses than Brady did, but Brady also accomplished his 7 titles in a league with a salary cap, free agency, and more overall parity than Montana dealt with. There really isn't any serious argument against Brady being the best ever to play the game. 65.24.244.191 (talk) 23:17, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Gridiron football is played internationally. 331dot (talk) 20:31, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nowhere close to the levels of cricket or association football. --Masem (t) 20:32, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Sure. 331dot (talk) 20:31, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Where is there international coverage? HiLo48 (talk) 22:24, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Right now, while not the top story on any, it's on the front page of skysports.com, L'Equipe, and La Gazzetta dello Sport. 65.24.244.191 (talk) 23:18, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
"Please do not oppose an item because the event is only relating to a single country, or failing to relate to one. This applies to a high percentage of the content we post and is unproductive." 331dot (talk) 20:59, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I was referring to the lack of competition in the sport and therefore the lack of justification for posting a retirement, but thanks for admitting that this is a one-country sport. Your extreme parochialism is well-known Bumbubookworm (talk) 21:20, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Bumbubookworm What exactly does that mean? I make great effort to set aside my personal biases and support nominations irrespective of where they are from. Who exactly am I "well known" among? I take offense at your comment. 331dot (talk) 21:50, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
If the level of competition is so high in cricket then why is the best player a batsman 67% better than anyone else? That doesn't usually happen in the most competitive sports. Why is it that some from countries of parochial population and acreage think sub-international always means "lack of competition"? It's the most popular sport in a country of a third of a billion people and $22 trillion GDP (almost as big as the Eurozone). The country is also the size of Europe. While full UN members can of course be the population and GDP of a small town, some are. Borders are just an accident of history. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 03:04, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ad Orientem That is demonstratably not correct, that we "do not do retirements". We have, and do. They are rare- and should be- but if retiring after winning seven Super Bowls over a 22 year career(Brady was the last active player drafted in 2000) doesn't merit posting, what does? 331dot (talk) 21:52, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
And why in hell wouldn't we, if they were qualified enough? WaltCip-(talk) 00:14, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
If they get in American football with 13 times the fans should get in. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 03:04, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, not sure what you're getting at there. HiLo48 (talk) 03:19, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Don't be a jerk. The sources that initially reported he was retiring was reliable. Even reliable sources can make mistakes. WaltCip-(talk) 00:13, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
WaltCip, have you ever read Template:Trout? Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know you did something silly. And no, it was not reliable reporting, otherwise it would have been accurate. This ESPN piece that I'm surprised is still up says sources say and sources told ESPN. As discussed in the essay I linked, that's not corroboration. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:09, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

(Posted) Sergio Mattarella re-elected President of Italy

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Article: 2022 Italian presidential election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Sergio Mattarella is elected President of Italy for a second term (Post)
News source(s): BBC Corriere della Sera
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Nominator's comments: Election of a head of state. Also, the re-election of an Italian president is considered to be an exceptional event in Italian politics. Yakme (talk) 19:44, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

As a side note, the nomination has not been treated as ITNR, but as a regular nomination that saw sufficient support to post. --Tone 10:13, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

January 28

January 28, 2022 (2022-01-28) (Friday)

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Business and economy

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RD: Diego Verdaguer

Article: Diego Verdaguer (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Billboard BBC
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Mexican-Argentinian singer, multiple Latin Grammy nominee; over 20 million records sold according to BBC. Article needs a lot of attention. --2806:109F:1:16E1:CC73:D5BD:447B:57C5 (talk) 21:54, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

January 27

January 27, 2022 (2022-01-27) (Thursday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

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(Posted) RD: Gene Clines

Article: Gene Clines (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 – Muboshgu (talk) 18:53, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Georg Christoph Biller

Article: Georg Christoph Biller (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): MDR
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: German choral conductor, Thomaskantor. Grimes2 (talk) 11:09, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Johan Hultin

Article: Johan Hultin (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Swedish American pathologist. Discovered tissues containing traces of the 1918 influenza virus from graves in Alaskan permafrost. Thriley (talk) 07:10, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Charanjit Singh

Article: Charanjit Singh (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Indian Express
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Indian hockey captain. Article is currently a stub and needs to be expanded. Ktin (talk) 05:57, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Barry Cryer

Article: Barry Cryer (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Comedy performer and writer whose career spanned decades and a range of comedy styles. The article needs some updating - a little thin in content, and much under-referenced. 2A00:23C7:2B86:9800:E5F5:136:21C0:A3AB (talk) 10:56, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Or did you mean your dire British, etc.? – Sca (talk) 13:10, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
"Elps ta keep ya sensa yuma, dunnit." Martinevans123 (talk) 12:26, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

January 26

January 26, 2022 (2022-01-26) (Wednesday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Health and environment

International relations

Law and crime

RD: Jeremiah Stamler

Article: Jeremiah Stamler (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Chicago Sun Times
Credits:

Article needs updating
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American cardiologist. Article requires work. Not too far away. Ktin (talk) 05:53, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Tropical Storm Ana

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Article: Tropical Storm Ana (2022) (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Tropical Storm Ana kills 77 people across Madagascar, Mozambique and Malawi. (Post)
News source(s): (The Guardian)
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Large death toll from a tropical storm. Mentioned in 2022’s timeline and Weather of 2022. Easily ITN worthy. Elijahandskip (talk) 00:29, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

January 25

January 25, 2022 (2022-01-25) (Tuesday)

Arts and culture

Disasters and accidents

  • Millions of people are left without electricity after a major power outage affects Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan and Uzbekistan. Uzbekistan's energy ministry reports that the power outage had been triggered by an "energy imbalance" in Kazakhstan's power grid. (Al Jazeera)

Health and environment

Law and crime

RD: Jean-Claude Corbeil

Article: Jean-Claude Corbeil (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Montreal Gazette / Canadian Press; Le Devoir (in French); Le Journal de Québec / Agence QMI (in French)
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 14:04, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Peter Robbins

Article: Peter Robbins (actor) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): FOX 5 San Diego
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Voice actor for Charlie Brown in the early Peanuts TV specials and the first movie. Death announced yesterday. Article is comprehensive and well referenced. –FlyingAce✈hello 17:26, 26 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Milena Salvini

Article: Milena Salvini (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Business Standard
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Winner of India's fourth highest civilian award the Padma Shri Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 16:13, 26 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment – A bit thin at 220 words of text. – Sca (talk) 17:21, 26 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Entire decades of her biography are missing from the text. We have about 1 sentence of information from 1962, 1975, 1980, 1999, and 2001. That's MASSIVELY incomplete for a person notable enough for a Wikipedia article. Someone needs to expand this with solid references before it is ready for the main page. --Jayron32 18:28, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Ozzie

Article: Ozzie (gorilla) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CNN
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: African-born western lowland gorilla who resided at the Zoo Atlanta from 1988 until his death. TJMSmith (talk) 14:49, 26 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment – Might that be "the world's oldest living male gorilla in captivity"? – 17:26, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
I think that is likely true. I stuck to how the sources stated it. TJMSmith (talk) 18:18, 26 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
In practice, we've almost never added disambigutors to RD displays, though there's occasional rumblings about doing so for non-primary topics.—Bagumba (talk) 07:30, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Erwin Eisch

Article: Erwin Eisch (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BR
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: artist in glass from Bavaria who used the material as a means of expression, internationally known - the article was written long ago by a user who left in 2011, many offline sources, the latest refs support the content but many details need to be be believed Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:21, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Wim Jansen

Article: Wim Jansen (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Herald Scotland
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Member of the great Dutch football team of the 1970s, later won the Scottish league in his one season as manager of Celtic. I've painstakingly sourced this through English, Dutch and French sources. 2A00:23C5:E187:5F00:2870:1B66:F076:7A1C (talk) 15:29, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Protests over responses to the COVID-19 pandemic

These protests have been ongoing for almost two years now since WHO declared COVID-19 a pandemic in March 2020. There is no indication for any unwanted escalations in support of why this should be posted at this point of time, and these events should probably be discussed on an individual basis in case such indication comes to the surface. Finally, the COVID-19 pandemic, which has been on the main page from the very beginning, provides sufficient coverage of all related events.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 10:24, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Article: Protests over responses to the COVID-19 pandemic (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
Credits:
Nominator's comments: There were huge protests in many cities in the world. This is not referenced on any of the main COVID-related Wikipedia pages, nor is there a separate page for this (though there should be). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.67.13.101 (talk) 06:54, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Please name call elsewhere, and keep this civil, thank you. Which of these protests were violent? 331dot (talk) 08:29, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Are you serious? https://www.politico.eu/article/protest-against-covid-restriction-police-violent-brussels/ 5.44.170.26 (talk) 09:06, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

January 24

January 24, 2022 (2022-01-24) (Monday)

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(Ready) RD: John Arrillaga

Article: John Arrillaga (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Bloomberg (US)
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American developer. Article needs to be updated. Edits done. Article is a good C-class biography for the homepage / RD. Ktin (talk) 05:35, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Heidelberg University shooting

Consensus to post will not develop. Stephen 00:34, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Article: Heidelberg University shooting (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A gunman shoots four people, one fatally, in Germany's Heidelberg University. (Post)
News source(s): BBC France24 CNN Deutsche Welle Times of Israel The Guardian sueddeutsche.de Associated Press Der Spiegel
Credits:
Nominator's comments: Has been making headlines for the past few days, and should be added to the Current events portal, which is shorter than usual today. This seems to be one of the first school shootings in 2022.Dunutubble (talk) 14:34, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Please note that WP:ITN is separate from Portal:Current events. Your nomination is correct for a nomination to ITN but if it's your intention to have an item added to the current events portal, you should go there. For what it's worth, it looks like this event is already listed on Portal:Current events/2022 January 24. WaltCip-(talk) 14:38, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
He killed one of his victims as well. Jim Michael (talk) 15:02, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
But evidently not for terroristic reasons. Just another disturbed individual. – Sca (talk) 16:39, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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(Closed) James Webb Telescope

Consensus is to wait for first images. Stephen 04:22, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Article: James Webb Space Telescope (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The James Webb Space Telescope reaches its target orbit at the Earth-Sun L2 Lagrange point. (Post)
News source(s): NYTimes
Credits:

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.
Nominator's comments: I am marking this ITNR, but this might be one of those exceptional cases. The probe has reached its destination which is ITNR, but 1) we had posted its launch in Dec, and 2) in 5 months we'd expect to start seeing images from it. So this could be a case of "let's wait those five months", but I'm throwing this out there as a possible ITN. Masem (t) 04:15, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • It's a spacecraft and it has arrived at its destination, I don't see why it shouldn't be posted now, or why it can't be posted when we get images. Too many postings is not our problem, usually. 331dot (talk) 08:32, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'd prefer posting once it starts collecting data but I don't oppose posting once more at this point, always good to have science stories on ITN. And the telescope is one of the biggest recent science stories. --Tone 09:14, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait This craft doesn't really have a destination as it's designed to keep moving. The complex unfurling and alignment is the real challenge and that's not complete yet. Better to wait until it's operational when we will presumably have its first image to show. See Timeline of the James Webb Space Telescope. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:35, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That is incorrect; its destination is the L2 point. 331dot (talk) 11:29, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
No, they don't want it to go to that point because it would then be in shadow and its solar panels wouldn't work. And there's literally nothing there. Andrew🐉(talk) 14:19, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It would be a permanent ring eclipse so the solar panels would work a little. Entering the quasi-orbit around L2 would be kind of a destination. Complex distant stuff tug-of-war causing quasi-orbits of nothing is pretty cool, L4 and L5 asteroids even need the Coriolis effect to orbit! Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 17:56, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Andrew Davidson Then you might want to tell the entire scientific community, NASA, and all RS that say that's where it's going. 331dot (talk) 18:20, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Its final destination is an orbit. This happens to be true of every spacecraft not intended to land on/in something or sent on an escape trajectory. Though, since that something will inevitably be orbiting something else, if you wanted to be a real pedant you could say that counts too. For that matter, any trajectory can technically be considered an orbit, some just being hyperbolic orbits that never return to their origin point! --47.155.96.47 (talk) 00:14, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed, would have to be a James Webb-specific animation. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 13:52, 26 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Let's use the illustration at the top of this section. Jehochman Talk 14:00, 26 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That would work. There's apparently an animation on the article but it would need to say not to scale. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 14:35, 26 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • This has been "in the news", with widespread coverage. I see no issue with posting. As a reminder, the idea of ITN is to help readers quickly access articles relevant to things that are getting covered "in the news". I don't see why it can't also be posted once the telescope sees first light. --47.155.96.47 (talk) 00:14, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait. Yes technically it has reached its physical destination, but it's not yet in scientific operation, which requires months of calibration and commissioning first. It seems better to WP:IAR and post whenever the first light images are released (which is likely to be less than 5 months). Those will be far more interesting and get a more substantial update to the article. Modest Genius talk 13:42, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose As the nom itself notes, nothing tangible except 'destination' reached. The launch had already been posted, wait for now. ITN is not an update ticker. Gotitbro (talk) 16:54, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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(Posted) RD: Sheldon Silver

Article: Sheldon Silver (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYT
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American politician, speaker of the New York state assembly (1994–2015), dies in prison at age 77. Article looks solid. Davey2116 (talk) 22:16, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Ayberk Pekcan

Article: Ayberk Pekcan (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): SOZCU, The News Int. oyeyeah
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Ainty Painty (talk) 15:48, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment. On a very quick look, badly needs some copy edits as well as sourcing for the entire filmography. I suspect when the puffery/repetition is removed it will appear very stubby. I would also strongly prefer that it did not link to the Turkish 'pedia without using the interlanguage link formatting which indicates which language the target is in. Espresso Addict (talk) 23:25, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) 2022 Burkinabé coup d'état

Proposed image
Article: 2022 Burkinabé coup d'état (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In Burkina Faso, a coup d'état led by military officer Paul-Henri Sandaogo Damiba deposes President Roch Marc Christian Kaboré (pictured). (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In Burkina Faso, a coup d'état led by military officer Paul-Henri Sandaogo Damiba deposes President Roch Marc Christian Kaboré (pictured) and announces the dissolution of the parliament, government and constitution.
News source(s): BBC; Aljazzera; Reuters; France24 APNews
Credits:

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: A very major event, all RS reporting this, article needs updating and expanding before it is posted. Events might change in the coming hours, so the blurb may be updated accordingly. Honestly concerning like all previous coup d'etats. Update - Kabore deposed, government, parliament and constituion dissolved. [11] An ITNR tag has been added, as there is a ”Change in the holder of the office which administer the executive of their respective state/government.” BastianMAT (talk) 10:49, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I do agree that the article needs a lot of work. However the news itself is more than noteworthy, and if the coup succeds, it will fall under ITNR. ”Changes in the holder of the office which administer the executive of their respective state/government.” The article is not ready, we don’t know the clear outcome of the coup yet, however the situation and a government change should be more than noteworthy. We will have to wait and see what happens, and in the meantime improve the article. BastianMAT (talk) 11:51, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support on significance, Oppose on quality. At the moment the article contains several sentences that don't make sense (e.g. "Although the government denied the ongoing coup in the country."), Unencyclopedic writing, what appears to be several unsourced statements (e.g. The Military are scheduled to make an announcement) and a couple of sections which are either blank or contain a single sentence. With a bit of expansion and copyediting this would be a good thing to post though. 163.1.15.238 (talk) 12:23, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

France24 (most reliable western msm for Africa) says the prez is being held by the mil https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220124-burkina-faso-president-kabore-held-by-mutinying-soldiers-sources-tell-france-24?ref=tw_i

@Tone: Fixed it, article seems to be pretty good now, should be ready for a front page.
Alright nice, @Tone: can you add the nom to my profile? Thinking of adding a display on my profile of all articles I have contributed and nominated to pretty soon. Cheers and have a great day mate! BastianMAT (talk) 09:56, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Presenting this as a done deal seems quite improper. Look at what happened last time – ITN rushed to post after just one day but then, a week later, the President was reinstated. The blurb says that the President has been "deposed" but the rebels themselves say that he has been "suspended". The reality seems to be that he's being held prisoner but now the challenge for the rebels is whether they can convince everyone that they are in charge. And can they then establish a functioning administration. A lot will depend on how foreign governments react, especially France.
Remember the march on the Capitol, when the result of the US election was being challenged? In such circumstances, it's a power struggle and the rebels don't always win. We should not rush to declare a winner in such confused and chaotic circumstances.
Andrew🐉(talk) 10:00, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This is not about convincing "everyone that they are in charge". The classic goal of every coup seems to have been achieved - the president is no longer in power. So, as an accomplished coup, this has been duly posted. If things change, the blurb could be bumped higher to reflect those changes. Brandmeistertalk 14:21, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Any reason why Burkina Faso isn't a wikilink in the posted blurb? As someone unfamiliar with the country I would have appreciated one, as I wasn't initially sure whether it was a country, a province or other territory. 82.15.196.46 (talk) 15:51, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    There is a long-standing convention that nation states are not Wikilinked in ITN as part of the MOS:OVERLINK principle - the idea being that most people have heard of most countries. I guess Burkina Faso is probably close to the bottom of the recognizability stakes for most people, but we apply a level playing field for all. (I went there on holiday once, so I do know a bit more about it myself!)  — Amakuru (talk) 23:47, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) 5G

Consensus will not form to post—Bagumba (talk) 08:50, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: 5G (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Activation of 5G in the US is delayed by concerns about aircraft safety (Post)
News source(s): NYT; CNN; Times of India
Credits:

Article updated
Nominator's comments: This issue seems to have been brewing for some time but has come to a head with flights being cancelled while the FAA and FCC scramble to get on the same page. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:20, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • we arguably have a duty to show people why this is being done so that they don't instead jump onto conspiracy theories about 5g spreading covid or whatever Wikipedia has no such duty. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:08, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose on quality whilst the section on Aviation and this event may be well sourced, the rest of that 5G is awful, orange-tagged in many places. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:08, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - I don't want to invoke the "local news" angle, which as we know is not accepted as valid, but even so I'm not sure this is really a major enough story to warrant posting on a global encyclopedia. I know the US is a global superpower and the biggest market for en-wiki, but even so, would we post similar stories relating to the rollout of 5G in other countries such as Brazil, India and Japan? Also, as noted, quality is a long-way off at present.  — Amakuru (talk) 17:14, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Battle of al-Hasakah (2022)

Article: Battle of al-Hasakah (2022) (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In al-Hasakah, Syria, Islamic State attacks the al-Sina'a prison to free captured terrorists. (Post)
News source(s): CBS News, Middle East Eye, Washington Post
Credits:

 Ainty Painty (talk) 03:37, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It includes refs from several other sources, including The Daily Telegraph & The Washington Post. Jim Michael (talk) 17:34, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I notice that our article on Middle East Eye states, "the governments of Saudi Arabia, UAE, Egypt and Bahrain accuse MEE of pro-Muslim Brotherhood bias." – ?? — Sca (talk) 19:27, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

January 23

January 23, 2022 (2022-01-23) (Sunday)

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Disasters and accidents

Health and environment

Politics and elections

(Posted) RD: Edgar S. Cahn

Article: Edgar S. Cahn (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Washington Post; The New York Times
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 22:48, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: Lead mentions that he created TimeBanking and was "CEO of TimeBanks USA" but the body has no additional information about that. Another 2-4 sentences would be helpful (what does TimeBanks USA do?), and once resolved, would be willing to support. SpencerT•C 05:35, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Beegie Adair

Article: Beegie Adair (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Tennessean; NPR; Associated Press
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 07:42, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: R. Nagaswamy

Article: R. Nagaswamy (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Hindu
Credits:

Article needs updating
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Indian archaeologist. Padma Bhushan awardee. Article requires some work to get to homepage levels of hygiene. Edits done. Article meets hygiene levels for homepage / RD. A good C-class biography. Ktin (talk) 06:41, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thanks @PFHLai:. This one was gnawing me as well, but I had held off on updating it. I have requested one other editor user:Pachu Kannan to help untie this one. But, in the meantime, I have removed the 'first' reference. It does seem like TNR was the director from 1964 to 1966. With that this one is good to go. Thanks. Ktin (talk) 17:17, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks for looking into this, Ktin. I am not sure, but it seems to me that TNR was indeed the predecessor except that he had a different title. The table at the bottom of this webpage indicated that RN took over from TNR as "Special Officer" in charge of the operations in 1966, and his title was changed to 'Director' near the end of that year. So I am under the impression that "first Director" or "inaugural Director" would indeed be appropriate for RN, but not "founding Director". More sourcing would be helpful here. IMO, this is a small thing and should not stall this RD nom. There is no doubt that he led the operations for many years. However, the articles on Tamil Nadu Archaeology Department and T. N. Ramachandran may need some tweaking to keep things consistent in the wiki. --PFHLai (talk) 18:17, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Done. You were right. Added a footnote for TNR (who was really a special officer). Source is here.[1]

RD: Thierry Mugler

Article: Thierry Mugler (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): People
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: French fashion designer Stephen 00:20, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Jean-Claude Mézières

Article: Jean-Claude Mézières (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): "Décès de Jean-Claude Mézières, cocréateur de la BD "Valérian et Laureline"". Radio Télévision Suisse (in French). 2022-01-23. Retrieved 2022-01-23.
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Seminal French BD author (Valérian et Laureline).  Sandstein 19:18, 23 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Resignation of Armenian President Armen Sarkissian

Article: Armen Sarkissian (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Armenian President Armen Sarkissian resigns. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Alen Simonyan becomes acting president of Armenia
News source(s): Reuters, Le Figaro
Credits:

Article needs updating

Nominator's comments: Resignation of a head of state. Mooonswimmer 17:19, 23 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Who is Who | Department Of Archaeology". www.tnarch.gov.in. Retrieved 2022-01-29.
  2. ^ https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news&oldid=1017989369#ITNR_heads_of_state_/_government. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)

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