User talk:Lokkhen

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Misrepresenting sources

With regard to this edit, there is no discussion of human rights policy—let alone the invocation of it as a "pretext"—on the cited pages of The Grand Chessboard. While you may have a point about the U.S. selectively raising human rights concerns to advance its own interests, even during the "idealistic" Carter years, misrepresenting sources is never acceptable on Wikipedia. Please be more careful in the future. Regards,TheTimesAreAChanging (talk) 21:59, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The end of the sentence has a source, too, which is pro-Brzezinski, but admits that by all his alleged “enthusiasm for human rights” he liked to use it as a “cudgel” against the Soviets. That’s what your source says. I kept the source with the cudgel at the end of the sentence, and I added his book were he writes of concerns about losing US influence to Europe — since Europe submits to human rights laws (the USA doesn’t), he says the main motive is “American primacy on the Eurasian continent”. His words. Therefore, human rights are pretext.

Further, check the passage. It is about “Major foreign policy events” and then follows a badly readable list, where some events have to do with him, and some not (apparently), yet the word “championing” is hinged on him. The sentence in full claims “the United States' encouragement of dissidents in Eastern Europe and championing of human rights[6] in order to undermine the influence of the Soviet Union[7]”. Brzezinski specific take on “championing human rights” and “undermine the influence” was specifically funding Mujahideen, i.e. Taliban. See e.g. here for more. Wikipedia is saying right now that funding fundamentalist terrorists is “championing human rights”. They come up in the next sentence, but in the distanced form of foreign policy events “happening” at his time. It just so happens that in reality he funded them first. It doesn‘t matter though, it‘s not the first or last comically bad article. I don’t care enough, but wanted to defend myself against this accusation. Have the Taliban sponsor as a “champion of human rights”. Lokkhen (talk) 02:24, 31 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]