Talk:Rudolf Höss
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Blatant vandalism
Vandalism corrected, 03:26 GMT, 7 January 2008
british torture
Yeah, mass-murderers always had that taken into account. 1.54.172.127 (talk) 06:54, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
why is there no mention of anyone being prosecuted for violating Genvea in torture of POW Hoss? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.174.191.14 (talk) 16:05, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
Recent edit
Preserving here by providing this link; my rationale was: "update infobox; swap images; c/e; rm excessive links". I also moved the detailed info about the subject's book from lead into the body. --K.e.coffman (talk) 00:06, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
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About sources and the translation of Höss' confession
In addition to not being able to read the entire source cited, this is why I felt the need to revert Megmck1239's edit: the user was citing a scholarly-like sermon, which was clearly meant for theological reflection, rather than using a peer-review source in a WP history article (WP:HISTAR). All this, done at the expense of a plethora of other more scholarly sources (WP:HSC). Of course, I did walk back my steps and returned the page to its former version once user:Megmck1239 contacted me.
In most cases, the Gerety lectures should not replace peer-reviewed publications, particularly when dealing with the historical translation of a text (WP:HISTRW). Doing so, is like disregarding the writings and renditions of better reviewed works for expediency, just because Hughes’ source is readily available online. Yet I have to admit that Hughes’ translation is more readable, though not as accurate as Tenenbaum’s, for example (that's an opinion, of course, but backed by the peer-review process).
Still, the fact that the works of the much cited Tenenbaum (to which Hughes makes reference) or that of more recent specialists (like Eric Kurlander) are not noted on this article, seems to show a shortage here. The foundations of a history entry in WP should always rest upon a tiered and first-class peer-review material, particularly when dealing with subjects like the Holocaust, which are prone to heated debates (WP:HISTRS). And sites like Famous Trials, should be used mostly for the convenience in reaching them (like for External links), but not for substituting more reliable sources. So, I suggest including Tenenbaum’s source and translation as an additional source, not to replace Hughes, but to support it. I am open to your thoughts. Caballero/Historiador ⎌ 21:20, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
WWI service
Perhaps worth looking...
WW I service
No much credit should be given to his claims regarding service in WW I. Especially, like stated here, that a 17-year-old should be promoted to Feldwebel - then senior rank of NCO in German Army...(hello, experts, btw, "Feldweibel" is false spelling, anyway) --129.187.244.19 (talk) 12:11, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
Höss's family
Is it really necessary to publicize the names of Rudolf Höss's children here? This information seems irrelevant and even potentially harmful to the people concerned. Certainly Höss's children should not be made to share the guilt of their father? Even aside from this, does not the mentioning of their names violate the WP:Notability criterion? This also goes for the grandson, who seems to have publicized himself somewhat. Is he notable enough for Wikipedia? The whole story of Rudolf Höss is so terrible and dirty. Do we really need to get his descendants mixed up in it as well? Filursiax (talk) 00:28, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
- I have added a note on Talk on the page Rainer Höss as well, where I suggest that that page be deleted entirely, because it fails to satisfy the WP:Notability criterion. Filursiax (talk) 00:40, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
- I have checked the revision history of this article, and find that the information on Rudolf Höss's children was added at 01:53, 14 February 2017 by Carolus, who was later banned from Wikipedia. (The article on Rainer Höss was also started by Carolus - at 05:39, 13 February 2017.) I don't know if this is relevant to my above suggestion that the information (and the Rainer Höss article) be deleted, but I'm offering it for what it's worth. FYI I am of course not suggesting that the Rudolf Höss article be deleted! Filursiax (talk) 12:10, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
Martin Bormann
I have added an image of Bormann since he is discussed in an adjacent section. They were convicted of the murder of a German schoolmaster in the 1920s, and both served in prison for their crime. 81.151.255.222 (talk) 08:56, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
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