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The issue whether England is a country or not has been repeatedly raised.

The outcome of discussion is that England is a country. This has been confirmed in formal mediation with respect to Wales, though the general issues are common amongst England, Northern Ireland, Scotland, and Wales.

The discussion about Wales is summarised in this archive. Further information on the countries within the UK for the different terms used to describe England, Northern Ireland, Scotland, and Wales can be found at Countries of the United Kingdom, and Subdivisions of the United Kingdom. A table of reliable sources can be found at Talk:Countries of the United Kingdom/refs. Additional material and debates can also be found on the archived talk and FAQs at Talk:United Kingdom.

This article is written in British English, which has its own spelling conventions (colour, travelled, centre, defence, artefact, analyse) and some terms that are used in it may be different or absent from other varieties of English. According to the relevant style guide, this should not be changed without broad consensus.

England has been listed as one of the Geography and places good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.

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August 4, 2009	Peer review	Reviewed
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England is a nation not a country

That is according to Wikipedia's own definition of such things.

According to Country is distinct political entity.

According to Nation is a community of people formed on the basis of a common language, history, ethnicity, a common culture and, in many cases, a shared territory.

Therefore a far more accurate phrasing would be :-

England is kingdom nation of the country the United Kingdom.

94.72.203.147 (talk) 09:52, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

but Wikipedia is not a reliable source. Sources refer to England as a country. IdreamofJeanie (talk) 10:24, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

... because it certainly is a "distinct political entity". Ghmyrtle (talk) 13:40, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

England is known as a constituent country of the United Kingdom Penrithguy (talk) 21:07, 27 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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I would like to correct some pages with bad grammar because it seems right to do so 2A01:4C8:1C00:9322:3133:1865:DBDE:84CC (talk) 10:18, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You need to be specific what changes are required like replace "X" with "Y". This would only cover changes in this article, if you need to correct other pages then you need to raise a request on each talk page if the articles are protected. MilborneOne (talk) 11:54, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Can we all come to an agreement that England is constituent country rather than a country in its own right? A "country" without its own government can't be a country.

I'm in multiple edit wars over multiple pages and it would be great if we could come to an agreement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fijipedia (talk • contribs) 14:25, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

please see Country and Country (disambiguation). --Heanor (talk) 14:28, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Fijipedia seems to be convinced that their own preferred definition of "country" is the only one. That is not the case. Ghmyrtle (talk) 14:39, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The case is that the facts support my claim. It's basic knowledge that a country needs to govern itself to be a country. We could say its a "constituent country" and everyone would get what they want but people don't want that. Fijipedia (talk) 15:29, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"It's basic knowledge that a country needs to govern itself to be a country." Not so. "...everyone would get what they want but people don't want that...." Umm.... Ghmyrtle (talk) 17:16, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

I'm stolen every kind of incident in this report I'm upset 24.22.207.72 (talk) 15:00, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]