Talk:Cyrus the Great

Conflicting dates for Cyrus II's ascension of the throne and his father's death

please note that:

Cyrus II

• also known as Cyrus the Great
• son of Cambyses I

Cambyses I

• also known as Atradates
• father of Cyrus II

Here's the root of the conflicting dates:

excerpt from Cyrus the Great: "Cyrus the Great succeeded to the throne in 559 BC following his father's death"

excerpt from Cambyses I: "...his original name was Atradates, and he was wounded and later died in the Battle of the Persian Border which he, with his son, fought against Astyages. It occurred in about 551 BC..."

I cannot find any evidence that clears up these conflicting dates. In my mind, there are two outstanding questions:

1. when and in what manner did Cyrus II ascend the throne of the Achaemenid Kingdom?
2. when did Cambyses I / Atradates die?

After researching these topics as thoroughly as possible, my conclusions are:

1. Cyrus II ascended the throne of the Achaemenid Kingdom in 559bce after his father, Cambyses I, abdicated.
2. Cambyses I / Atradates died at the Battle of the Persian Border in 551bce.

Can anyone provide evidence to substantiate or refute these conclusions?

What era style should this article use?

I noticed that it happened quite a few times that people changed the era style of this article from AD/BC to CE/BCE. Per MOS:STYLERET, I think this is something that should be discussed on the talk page. Although I am not at all familiar with this article (I am merely a pending changes reviewer), using the CE/BCE style seems appropriate to me because this article does not have much to do with Christianity. ―JochemvanHees (talk) 21:47, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

Yah, I agree with you. History of Asia^{Want to talk?} 22:31, 30 April 2021 (UTC).

It's not about what religion is present, it's about the wiki MoS which says original style gets used. Wikipedia:Manual of Style very first section says "retaining existing styles". Also, in this article 2 different styles were used. the MoS also says use the same style throughout.

"BC/AD" is not about Christianity so much as it is about long-established use by historians of the Western world. It's completely viable, and it is only in modern times that certain cranks got their ire up about it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.111.44.55 (talk) 08:01, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

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Suggest image change

I suggest that the existing image, which is a painting of a winged man from Wallis, be replaced with a photograph taken of the lithograph itself in Pasargad. Sardar ^talk 15:47, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

How did Cyrus get his name if he was originally named Agradates

"Cyrus's father, Cambyses 1st, named him Cyrus after his grandfather, " KJV Isaiah 45 3,4 ---Here it states that God surnamed Cyrus. Verse 4--"I have surnamed thee" God only named 4 people in the scripitures (Cyrus, Issac, Solomon, Josiah-- KJV Companion Bible's sidebar concordance) Although a Persian Cyrus allowed the Temple walls and foundation laid by Nehimiah in Jerusalem.

KJV: Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego are figures from the biblical Book of Daniel, primarily chapter 3. In the narrative, the three Hebrew men are thrown into a fiery furnace by Nebuchadnezzar II, King of Babylon Cyrus conguered Babylon (as well as Media, Lydia) Cyrus = "possess thou the furnace" (Strongs Concordance, Hebrew dictionary) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.134.101.41 (talk) 13:24, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

I don't think the Bible is really a strong piece of evidence for anything relating to Achaemenid naming customs. Ichthyovenator (talk) 17:45, 12 February 2022 (UTC)