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February 24
Can someone help me find a public-domain image?
Please pardon me if this isn't the best place to post this (and I welcome advice on that, so re-direct me if need be). I want to find a public domain image for the philosopher Gerald Heard, such as this image (for which I do not know the availability): https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8T-EVGNi99o/Vc3iLsCMDwI/AAAAAAAAGms/1hIRFUzyzXk/s1600/HEARD16.jpg
I want to find an available image that can replace the image now used in the Wikipedia article about Heard. Can someone help me in this quest? Thanks for any assistance.Joel Russ (talk) 16:16, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
- Since Heard is deceased, you also have the option of uploading a low-resolution non-free image to Wikipedia (not Wikimedia Commons) in keeping with Wikimedia policy as long as you include a fair use rationale (for which there are templates). I have been doing this to add images of deceased librarians. I made a blog post a while ago about how to do this, loosely, you may find it helpful. I did a quick search for public domain images and was unable to find any. Jessamyn (talk) 20:32, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
Tags when using gadget
Why sometimes there is a tag when using gadgets like AutoWikiBrowser, HotCat, Huggle, RedWarn (renamed to Ultraviolet), and Twinkle? For example, when you use Twinkle, in the edit history, there is a tag that someone use twinkle when editing that article. Vitaium (talk) 00:06, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Vitaium: Hi there! I don't understand your question. Could you please give a specific example? GoingBatty (talk) 02:39, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
- It's about Special:Tags, e.g "Tag: Huggle" at [1]. @Vitaium: Wikipedia:Tags says: "Edit tags can be used to detect potentially harmful edits or software bugs." By the way, AutoWikiBrowser, Huggle and RedWarn aren't gadgets. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:28, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
Notes and queries
How do I flag content with a note or query? In this case the existing content is directly self-contradictory, and I don't know which part (if either) may be true. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2407:7000:9561:9700:608C:89F2:97AE:BD4E (talk) 00:58, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
- You can use
{{clarify|date=February 2022}}
. See Template:Clarify for more information. Could also leave a note at the article talk page as well, to say what it is that is not clear. Eagleash (talk) 02:37, 24 February 2022 (UTC) - There's also {{Self-contradictory}} - see the template documentation for information about the parameters. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 02:41, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
"upstream connect error or disconnect/reset before headers. reset reason: overflow"
I am getting this error every so often. Waiting a minute or two and trying again fixes it. I am curious about what the error means and whether a more user-friendly error message would be preferable. 03:10, 24 February 2022 (UTC)2600:1700:D0A0:21B0:D0CE:5870:28A1:F012 (talk)
- The devs know about it and are working on fixing it. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 03:15, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
- Link to phabricator (the ticketing system). TigraanClick here for my talk page ("private" contact) 13:16, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
What actually happens when a paid editor does not disclose their paid editing?
I'm not saying that I'm paid to edit (I'm not), but what if a paid editor does not disclose that they are being paid for editing even after multiple requests? I.hate.spam.mail.here (talk | contributions) 04:54, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
- If you can prove they're being paid to edit, email an administrator you trust with the information for a block. Oftentimes the behaviour of such editors is disruptive enough that whether they're being paid or not ends up being academic. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 05:13, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
- I.hate.spam.mail.here if I have good reason to think that someone is an undeclared paid editor, I will block indefinitely, sometimes without warning if it's clear-cut eg we at Bloggs Widgets Ltd are the world's best widget makers. It's often pretty obvious anyway, a lengthy promo for a company or product as the first significant edit from an account is unlikely to be a good faith attempt Jimfbleak - talk to me? 15:00, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
Do all Wikipedia administrators have conflict of interests with this page?
Per WP:COI, conflict-of-interest editing is discouraged. Isn't an administrator editing an article about Wikipedia administrators COI editing? I.hate.spam.mail.here (talk | contributions) 05:10, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
- You may be right, I.hate.spam.mail.here. I am an administrator but I do not recall ever editing that particular page. But editors with a COI are allowed to revert things like vandalism, personal attacks and harassment, copyright violations, legal threats and the like. So, in order to establish that there is a problem here, you would need to establish that the specific edits in question are unjustified by policies and guidelines. Cullen328 (talk) 05:39, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
- I never thought about this, but wouldn't every single Wikipedia editor has a WP:COI on Wikipedia community article or even Wikipedia? Neocorelight (Talk) 05:52, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
- I was thinking about that a couple days ago. It's an interesting question – I believe one of the COI guidelines state that volunteers for things count as people with COIs. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 05:59, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:Conflict of interest says: "Any external relationship can trigger a conflict of interest." Being a Wikipedia administrator is not an external relationship in Wikipedia. I'm an administrator so I may be biased but I don't see an issue with administrators making edits about administrators, or Wikipedia editors in general making edits about Wikipedia. Who would edit English Wikipedia if not English Wikipedia editors? PrimeHunter (talk) 06:05, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
- Indeed, in this case, you'd want to have a look at the rule of necessity 10:53, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:Conflict of interest says: "Any external relationship can trigger a conflict of interest." Being a Wikipedia administrator is not an external relationship in Wikipedia. I'm an administrator so I may be biased but I don't see an issue with administrators making edits about administrators, or Wikipedia editors in general making edits about Wikipedia. Who would edit English Wikipedia if not English Wikipedia editors? PrimeHunter (talk) 06:05, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
- As a not-administrator, I believe they don't exactly have a conflict of interest. Admins are regular content creators (with added privileges) on WP just like someone might be a content creator on Blogger or WordPress (with added privileges, if they pay for it!!). And them editing the corresponding Wikipedia articles wouldn't be seen as a COI. However, an employee or business partner of the said companies editing their article would be a COI. Drawing parallels, I believe Admins don't have a COI but WMF employees do. ---CX Zoom(he/him) (let's talk|contribs) 17:14, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
- I was thinking about that a couple days ago. It's an interesting question – I believe one of the COI guidelines state that volunteers for things count as people with COIs. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 05:59, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
- I never thought about this, but wouldn't every single Wikipedia editor has a WP:COI on Wikipedia community article or even Wikipedia? Neocorelight (Talk) 05:52, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
Watchlist filters
Hi there. I edit DE since a over a decade now but I have an issue with the watch list filters in EN. Whenever I access the watchlist there is a filter "Current version" (I have the German UI, so I hope that's what it says in English). It prevents me from seeing all changes and shows only the last change on an article. I have created a default filter and saved it without "Current version" set but if I access the watchlist using a bookmark in my browser the watchlist will not use the default filter and I always end up with "Current version" activated. How can I get rid of "Current version" once and for all? :-) CarlFromVienna (talk) 06:54, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
- @CarlFromVienna: Enable "Expand watchlist to show all changes, not just the most recent" at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-watchlist. PrimeHunter (talk) 07:01, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
- Got it, thanks! CarlFromVienna (talk) 07:13, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
Bakari Henderson
Hello,
Would you be able to assist with creating a Wikipedia page for Bakari Henderson and the ongoing Greece trial or be able to point me in the right direction?
Sincerely, Laura — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leigh Land (talk • contribs) 17:41, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
- I see there's plenty of news now about the retrial of his killers
- https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/23/world/europe/bakari-henderson-killing-greece-retrial.html
- https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bakari-henderson-killing-retrial-greece-no-murder-charge-video-deadly-beating/
- https://www.ekathimerini.com/news/1178182/retrial-over-the-death-of-bakari-henderson-rescheduled-for-march-11/
- https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/17618209/bakari-henderson-amrican-tourist-murder-greece-selfie/
- but no evidence that that Mr. Henderson himself was notable enough to warrant an article. However the killing may be considered notable, I can't judge. Maproom (talk) 18:49, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
Killing of Bakari Henderson, it seems to me, is clearly notable enough for an article. Since whether the killing was murder is one of the main issues under dispute, we would want to avoid its use in the article title. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:41, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
section edit links
How do we get section edit links like I suspect is on the line above this? My sandbox doesn't have them! Gah4 (talk) 22:04, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
- Gah4, your creation User:Gah4/sandbox5 has them. Is there something about them that remains a mystery? -- Hoary (talk) 01:57, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Gah4: User:Gah4/sandbox#table transclusion test transcludes User:Gah4/sandbox/table where you addded
<includeonly>__NOEDITSECTION__</includeonly>
in [2]. This removes section edit links when the page is trancluded. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:14, 25 February 2022 (UTC)- I thought it must be something strange like that. I moved some things over to sandbox5, and those recovered their links. With binary search, I might have eventually found it. It was some years ago that I wrote that one, or maybe copied it from somewhere, and I don't know why I would have wanted that. Before I wrote this, I did find some of those __xxx__ flags, in the help pages, but not that one. Thanks, thanks, thanks! Gah4 (talk) 02:21, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
- It is very strange. Editing the page doesn't show that line. I had to undo from the changes page. I completely forgot doing that, but I suspect when I did, I thought it would only apply for that section. What seems to happen is that the table gets its own section, in addition to the section including it. That is, not only for the section, but for the table itself. I suspect I was trying to prevent that one, not realizing it would cover the whole page. The tables go into another page, and I think are not now included, but I thought about doing it. I was also looking how other included tables work. I might work on these tables again, which are generate with AWK programs from IAEA tables. Gah4 (talk) 02:48, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Gah4: I guess you tried to click the section edit link at User:Gah4/sandbox/table. The code was in the lead section (which has no rendered content) so you had to click the edit tab. If a transcluded page has section headings then they are included but the section edit link goes to the transcluded page with the section code. Maybe you wanted to avoid that. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:02, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
- OK, I thought I went to User:Gah4/sandbox/table and clicked edit, but it does seem like, somehow, it was doing a section edit when I thought it wasn't. OK, next thing. Why is it that you can't make a link to User:Gah4/sandbox. It seems you can make a link to subpages, or other numbered sandbox, but not that one. Gah4 (talk) 07:32, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
- Oh, I get it now. I tried it out in my sandbox (that is what it is for!) but it wouldn't make a link. So it is just that pages can't make a link to themself, which makes sense, but surprised me. Gah4 (talk) 07:34, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
- It's the Help:Self link feature. You can make a section link to the page itself. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:40, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Gah4: I guess you tried to click the section edit link at User:Gah4/sandbox/table. The code was in the lead section (which has no rendered content) so you had to click the edit tab. If a transcluded page has section headings then they are included but the section edit link goes to the transcluded page with the section code. Maybe you wanted to avoid that. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:02, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Gah4: User:Gah4/sandbox#table transclusion test transcludes User:Gah4/sandbox/table where you addded
New annoying notifications
How do I turn these silly messages off (e.g. "Your edit was saved.")? Clarityfiend (talk) 23:43, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Clarityfiend: You may find the discussion here helpful -- TNT (talk • she/her) 23:46, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
February 25
Vandalism help request from 2601:192:4E00:4100:5909:32B3:1C84:8E85
I have noticed some vandalism at [[3]]. Namely, the passage in the introduction that reads "All VIRGINIANs’ think (If they were allowed to think) that opposites attract. That is socially prison. No, opposites do not attract. Thus the Limits of VIRGINIA war or peace." and the passage in the Jeanes Hospital section that reads "What is the next move after the Episcopalian Church eliminates everything Jesus Christ could be? The Government only authorizes Jews and Episcopalian’s for Religion. KJV John 19". Would an editor please assist me with fixing/removing these passages? Thank you, 2601:192:4E00:4100:5909:32B3:1C84:8E85 (talk) 00:08, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
- Removed it, thanks for letting us know -- TNT (talk • she/her) 00:11, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
including tables
There is discussion above about edit links, which came do to testing of included tables. So far, I only have table includes in my sandbox, but would like to put them into some articles. The tables are computer generated, and should not be edited. Is there somewhere discussion or help pages on table inclusion? For one, where the tables should go? Gah4 (talk) 02:52, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Gah4: Table transclusion works like any other transclusion so I'm not sure which help you want. If tables are transcluded into articles then they should be in templates. There are ways to store multiple tables in the same template and only transclude a selected table. See Help:Labeled section transclusion for one way. Above I wrote: "If a transcluded page has section headings then they are included but the section edit link goes to the transcluded page with the section code". You can avoid such section edit links by outputting the section header with a parser function, e.g.:
{{#if:1|== Section heading ==}}
. The section edit link will also be omitted on the transcluded page. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:17, 25 February 2022 (UTC)- One question is where the transcluded tables go. I found out once, unrelated to tables, not to put subpages in main space, otherwise that would be my first thought. Mostly I am wondering about conventions that people use and expect. Gah4 (talk) 07:20, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
How to create page on wikipedia
I would like to ask assistance how to edit the page i am working on since it is my first time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mariatisha/sandbox Title: Adana Mam-Legros
I want to add links for references, also how can I add the references in the paragraph. Mariatisha (talk) 02:53, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
- Mariatisha, User:Mariatisha/sandbox already has references within its paragraphs. And every one of these references has a link (or anyway something looking like a link; I haven't clicked on most of them). What do you need to know? ¶ One problem is apparent: although your opening paragraph ends with a reference to this web page, the web page doesn't back up anything that's been said. (Perhaps pages linked from it do. If so, you should link to these.) -- Hoary (talk) 08:35, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
Why is my added alt= not taking?
The alt= I tried to add to this picture isn't taking, and I can't figure out why after maybe 30 minutes RTFMing: the syntax ||Wikipedia:Extended_image_syntax#Alt_text_and_caption|looks right to me]] but the inspect tools in Chromium and Firefox both still show an empty alt=. The two possible reasons I can think of are alt text length (does Wikipedia have a limit on that?) and a Wikipedia-internal cache (clearing cache didn't help in either browser). Is there something else, maybe obvious to others, that I'm missing? The Crab Who Played With The Sea (talk) 11:59, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
- Shows up for me. How are you attempting to show the alt - a screen reader? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 14:20, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
- [4] shows it. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 14:21, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
- Interesting. It shows up for me now. I'm not sure why it didn't before in either browser I tried. (And no, I used the Inspect context menus on the image. They've served me well in the past.) Thanks. The Crab Who Played With The Sea (talk) 22:17, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
Watchlist interface
Is it just for me or did the watchlist interface change for everyone? ---CX Zoom(he/him) (let's talk|contribs) 13:47, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
- @CX Zoom: It didn't for me but several settings at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rc and Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-watchlist can influence it. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:42, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
What do I do if someone keeps adding edits that are unconstructive even though I reverted them and reverts my reverts (and if that person doesn't follow WP:BRD)
There's this editor who are adding good-faith, but unconstructive edits (not improving the article) and when I reverted them I had a discussion with him/her on the talk page but that editor still keeps reverting my reverts even though no consensus has been reached. What do I do? It's not vandalism so I can't report them.
This also happened before where some editor kept replacing an infobox image with one they personally like and reverted anyone who reversed it back to the original. That editor who replaced the image didn't have a consensus and there was an edit war going on. Ak-eater06 (talk) 14:02, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
- If someone isn't willing to discuss, then you can leave warnings on their talk page. Remember that WP:3RR is a thing. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 14:15, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
- User:Lee Vilenski they are discussing but at the same time reverting my reverts. Ak-eater06 (talk) 14:29, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
- Stick to WP:3RR, get some visability on the discussion. If they are talking, then getting more users to gain a stronger consensus is the way forward. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 14:35, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
- User:Lee Vilenski they are discussing but at the same time reverting my reverts. Ak-eater06 (talk) 14:29, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
- User:Lee Vilenski should I just list the discussion as an RfC? Ak-eater06 (talk) 19:47, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
Air Force Bases in the US
You left out Minot Air Force Base in Minot, ND — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.31.218.189 (talk) 16:26, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
- It is included in List of United States Air Force installations and List of United States military bases perhaps give us a clue if you have been looking somewhere else. MilborneOne (talk) 16:49, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
- And it's had its own article since 2002. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.209.121.1 (talk) 17:34, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
Unable to upload image from eng wiki to czech wiki
Hello, I'd like to translate a video game wiki article to my native language wikipedia, however they have an infobox cover, which I am unable to replicate - the File:cover-art.jpg cannot be found.
The english article with the cover art mentioned is here: Video Game [Cover Art]
If possible, how can I upload the cover art to my native language wiki infobox? I thought it had to do something with copyright, but if it exists on one wiki page, why couldn't I do it on my native one? Especially if I am allowed to use instead other similar content from said video game art?
Native language wiki article about said game — Preceding unsigned comment added by S3M1CZ (talk • contribs) 20:38, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
- @S3M1CZ: The image File:Hearts of Iron IV packshot.jpg is on the English-Language Wikipedia and has a {{Non-free use rationale video game cover}} to explain why it is okay to use this copyrighted, non-free image on the English-Language Wikipedia article for Hearts of Iron IV because of fair use. Czech Wikipedia doesn't allow fair use exceptions because of how Czech copyright works. See cs:Nápověda:Fair use. Umimmak (talk) 20:49, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
- @S3M1CZ: Looking at other Czech-language Wikipedia articles about video games it seems like the common thing is to use an image of just the text of the logo, so you could use Commons:File:Hoi4-logo.png. Umimmak (talk) 21:03, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
- Each Wikimedia Project can only use media which has been locally uploaded to that specific project, or which has been uploaded to Wikimedia Commons. Wikimedia Commons does not allow "fair use", and since the czech Wikipedia doesn't appear to allow fair use either, I am afraid you cannot use this file there. Victor Schmidt (talk) 21:00, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
Coordinates
When entering coordinates for something in an article, which is preferred - degrees/minutes/seconds or decimal degrees? Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 23:01, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Bubba73: {{Coord}} allows both and MOS:COORD also says both can be used, so I think either works depending on how you're getting the coordinates (though {{Coord}} also allows conversion). You might also want to look at Wikipedia:WikiProject Geographical coordinates for guidance. Umimmak (talk) 00:10, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks. I prefer decimal degrees because they are more efficient as far as accuracy, and I'd rather enter decimal degrees into a GPS. degrees/minutes/seconds seems so archaic. About a day ago I made a change at Milam Residence from D/M/S to digital degrees to get it right on the house. It was reverted to D/M/S today. I got the coordinates by moving a marker around on a satellite view, and it gives decimal degrees. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 01:21, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
February 26
What does the REFUND in WP:REFUND stand for?
Does it stand for the word refund, or requests for undeletion? I.hate.spam.mail.here (talk | contributions) 00:00, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
- @I.hate.spam.mail.here: I think it can mean both things. Because in the sense of the word, when you are requesting something you made to be undeleted, you're requesting that you be refunded that thing. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 00:03, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
- I guess it was chosen [5] as a kind of pun because it could mean both things. That's probably also why it became popular. It's not the only or oldest shortcut for Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:38, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
2022-23 NCAA Division I Men's basketball season
Can you fix the reference i made please. 98.186.54.177 (talk) 03:03, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
- Done Although you should probably find a better source since that uses HTTPS (which is more secure than HTTP, but doesn't mean it's a bad ref) instead of HTTP. Are there no RS's that talk about that? ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 03:08, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
the sky is blue
Hi, how do I disable this wonderful and extremely useful new "feature" that demands my attention at the top right hand of my screen to let me know that I've made an edit when I've made an edit? Thank you. Dr. Vogel (talk) 16:19, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
- There is a bit of discussion in this past thread discussing this notification including how to disable it. Jessamyn (talk) 19:50, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
Reporting users only here for promotional purposes
I don’t know where to report users who are only here for promotional purposes, would it just go to the general noticeboard?--CreecregofLife (talk) 16:20, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
- Use the Conflict of Interest Noticeboard: WP:COIN. --Orange Mike | Talk 16:26, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
Password Recovery Failed
Hello,
I am trying to get into my account, and my Password Recovery step did not send a link to my email. I tried both my current and old email account (over several days). Please help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.236.226.46 (talk) 16:45, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
- Did you check your spam folder? Also, emails can sometimes take a few hours to deliver. Victor Schmidt (talk) 17:20, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
Problematic bot template for locations in Poland
I'd like to ask the administrators for input regarding a problematic situation, which I identified on many Poland stub articles for towns and villages. It appears that the original template used by a bot to generate the stub articles, included a very POV-ish stand alone statement: "Before 1945 the area was part of Germany." (example: [6]) This statement is present in hundreds of stub articles. Also, I would like to note that in itself the statement is not incorrect, however given the fact that many of those places changed hands multiple times though their history, to just have this one stand alone blurb lacking any further historical context is extremely unsettling and creates undue weight issues within the stub article. My question is how can this be remedied, on a large scale, by either adding a bit more historical context, or removing it completely. --E-960 (talk) 18:10, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
- The answer is to expand the articles, to fully cover the history of what countries they were in through the ages. Mjroots (talk) 18:23, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
- Mjroots, this is in HUNDREDS of stub articles, not just in the one I provided as an example. Also, it is blatant POV, and I'm actually taken aback that a template was created to include this stand alone blurb while omitting other facts. I mean seriously, "before 1945 it was Germany" going back to the last ice age? Such poor editing on a large scale needs to be properly addressed not dismissed. --E-960 (talk) 18:47, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
- Side note: A simple query shows that there are about 3000 articles with this sentence. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 19:03, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
- Mjroots, also in a related and ongoing discussion[7] another user Phil Bridger, noted that such content is indeed questionable for such a stub article. --E-960 (talk) 19:15, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
- Also just carrying over the discussion, Black Kite, Phil Bridger and Rsjaffe do you have any suggestion how this issue could be fixed either by augmenting the statement using a bot to provide full context or removing it, as it appears in 3000 or so stub articles across Wikipedia. --E-960 (talk) 21:27, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
- This region does have a complex history, so some context, delivered as briefly as possible, would be useful to the casual reader unfamiliar with the region.
- My suggestion is to do one of the following:
- 1. Add hatnote like: {{for|history of the region, see|[[wikilink to pomeranian history here]]}}
- 2. Add a history of the region link and category to each template in the category West_Pomeranian_Voivodeship_gmina_templates (I don't like this idea, personally).
- 3. Add a See also section with a link to pomeranian history.
- 4. Include a sentence in the article: For the history of the region, see History of Pomerania. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 22:23, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
- Side note: A simple query shows that there are about 3000 articles with this sentence. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 19:03, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
- I'm sorry if this sounds snarky, but don't you people read? As was stated, the problem is in thousands of articles. Suggesting manual edits of thousands of articles is NOT a viable answer.ArtKocsis (talk) 04:23, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
- Mjroots, this is in HUNDREDS of stub articles, not just in the one I provided as an example. Also, it is blatant POV, and I'm actually taken aback that a template was created to include this stand alone blurb while omitting other facts. I mean seriously, "before 1945 it was Germany" going back to the last ice age? Such poor editing on a large scale needs to be properly addressed not dismissed. --E-960 (talk) 18:47, 26 February 2022 (UTC)