Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ángel Carrascosa Muñoz

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. I am taking the unusual step of re-closing a discussion which was closed long ago. Following the tagging of the article for speedy deletion, the article has been repeatedly re-created. Since it is clear that this discussion was in any case heading for "delete", I am re-closing it, to record the outcome as "delete", to prevent "but it was speedily deleted, not closed as an outcome of a discussion" being used to invalidate future nominations for deletion under criterion for speedy deletion G4. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 12:36, 2 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

~~The result was speedy delete - author tagged the article for WP:G7 -- Y not? 21:30, 27 February 2015 (UTC)~~[reply]

Ángel Carrascosa Muñoz

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Contested PROD. Concern was Article about a footballer who fails WP:GNG and who has not played in a fully pro league. PROD was contested by the article's creator without providing a reason. Sir Sputnik (talk) 05:33, 26 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Sir Sputnik (talk) 05:33, 26 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Don't Delete - Angel is 100% a professional footballer who has played in the Segunda Division B of Spain. It should not be deleted. Alhosniomani20 (talk) 05:35, 26 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I have seen several articles in the category Category:Segunda División B players who also have just played in this league and nothing bigger than this league. How come those articles are still existing? Eg. Tariq Spezie and José Luis Gómez Pérez who have just played in Segunda Division B and the leagues below this. Still there articles exist. Don't delete. Alhosniomani20 (talk) 05:50, 26 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not a valid argument. You should (both) rather try to justify whether the subject passes or fails Wikipedia:Notability (football). --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:54, 26 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

He made his debut against CP Cacereño in the 2011–12 Segunda División B. He also made appearances against other professional clubs like CP Cacereño, Cádiz CF, CF Villanovense, CF La Unión, Real Jaén, Real Betis B, Real Balompédica Linense, CD Badajoz, UD Melilla, CD Roquetas, Écija Balompié and Lucena CF. Many of these have played in top divisions of Spain. Now satisfies the criteria. http://int.soccerway.com/players/angel--carrascosa-munoz/224570/ This link gives all the data about these appearances. Don't delete. Alhosniomani20 (talk) 06:06, 26 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

All the above mentioned clubs are eligible to play in the National Cup competition of Spain. Alhosniomani20 (talk) 06:09, 26 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The following links give complete information about the Professional Player. 1 http://www.rayleague.com/player/158581/details 2 http://www.mybestplay.com/players/soccer-forward-angelcarrascosamu%C3%B1oz-142454ii3.html 3 http://www.bdfutbol.com/en/j/j401465.html 4 http://www.maldivesoccer.com/p/2310 5 http://www.zamante.com/us/profile/soccer-player/angel-carrascosa-munoz 6 http://www.goalscore.com/players/7077/224570 7 http://www.fichajes.com/jugador/j224570_angel-carrascosa 8 http://www.fussballtransfers.com/spieler/j224570_angel-carrascosa 9 http://live.sportlive.co.za/?sport=soccer&page=player&id=224570 10 http://live.sportlive.co.za/?sport=soccer&page=player&id=224570 (Spanish) 11 http://www.match-endirect.com/joueur/angel-carrascosa-munoz-224570.html (Spanish) 12 http://goalaz.com/?sport=soccer&page=player&id=224570&localization_id=www 13 http://www.betstudy.com/soccer-stats/player/224570/angel-carrascosa-muoz/ Don't delete. Alhosniomani20 (talk) 06:30, 26 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Giant Snowman 13:06, 26 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If my article fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL then can someone tell me how the following articles pass these two criterion. Tariq Spezie and José Luis Gómez Pérez Alhosniomani20 (talk) 14:07, 26 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

How can a player who has played in Segunda División B be not professional? GiantSnowman is that league not professional? Alhosniomani20 (talk) 14:57, 26 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There are clear statistics on the link http://int.soccerway.com/players/angel--carrascosa-munoz/224570/ which shows that he has made 20 appearances in Spain's third biggest league and has scored one goal in the same league. Then how can that player be not professional? Alhosniomani20 (talk) 15:02, 26 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Alhosniomani20: you may only !vote once, though you are free to comment as much as you wish (within reason). Please stop multiple !voting - if you continue to do so it might be considered disruptive and might lead to you being blocked from editing. Giant Snowman 15:17, 26 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@User:GiantSnowman Ok Sorry. I was unaware about that. But I need reply for my queries mentioned above. I can't afford lose this article. As the player is Professional and there is no doubt about that. Alhosniomani20 (talk) 15:25, 26 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Fails both WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. – Michael (talk) 20:05, 26 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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How to does it fail WP:GNG. There are clear information about the player on various top websites like soccerway etc.

WP:GNG requires significant coverage. The match reports and player profiles listed in the article are routine sports journalism, which is insufficient for WP:GNG. Sir Sputnik (talk) 18:20, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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