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  • Blurbs are one-sentence summaries of the news story.
    • Altblurbs, labelled alt1, alt2, etc., are alternative suggestions to cover the same story.
    • A target article, bolded in text, is the focus of the story. Each blurb must have at least one such article, but you may also link non-target articles.
  • Articles in the Ongoing line describe events getting continuous coverage.
  • The Recent deaths (RD) line includes any living thing whose death was recently announced. Consensus may decide to create a blurb for a recent death.

All articles linked in the ITN template must pass our standards of review. They should be up-to-date, demonstrate relevance via good sourcing and have at least an acceptable quality.

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  • Make sure the item you want to nominate has an article that meets our minimum requirements and contains reliable coverage of a current event you want to create a blurb about. We will not post about events described in an article that fails our quality standards.
  • Find the correct section below for the date of the event (not the date nominated). Do not add sections for new dates manually – a bot does that for us each day at midnight (UTC).
  • Create a level 4 header with the article name (==== Your article here ====). Add (RD) or (Ongoing) if appropriate.
Then paste the {{ITN candidate}} template with its parameters and fill them in. The news source should be reliable, support your nomination and be in the article. Write your blurb in simple present tense. Below the template, briefly explain why we should post that event. After that, save your edit. Your nomination is ready!
  • You may add {{ITN note}} to the target article's talk page to let editors know about your nomination.

The better your article's quality, the better it covers the event and the wider its perceived significance (see WP:ITNSIGNIF for details), the better your chances of getting the blurb posted.

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  • Admins should always separately verify whether these criteria are met before posting blurbs marked (Ready). For more guidance, check WP:ITN/A.
    • If satisfied, change the header to (Posted).
    • Where there is no consensus, or the article's quality remains poor, change the header to (Closed) or (Not posted).
    • Sometimes, editors ask to retract an already-posted nomination because of a fundamental error or because consensus changed. If you feel the community supports this, remove the item and mark the item as (Pulled).

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Format your comment to contain "support" or "oppose", and include a rationale for your choice. In particular, address the notability of the event, the quality of the article, and whether it has been updated.

Please do...

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  4. Comment on a story without first reading the relevant article(s).
  5. Oppose a recurring item here because you disagree with the recurring items criteria. Discuss them here.
  6. Use ITN as a forum for your own political or personal beliefs. Such comments are irrelevant to the outcome and are potentially disruptive.

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There are two places where you can request corrections to posted items:

  • Anything that does not change the intent of the blurb (spelling, grammar, markup issues, updating death tolls etc.) should be discussed at WP:Errors.
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March 14

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March 13

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(Posted) RD: William Hurt

Article: William Hurt (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Variety
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Is anybody up for sourcing a long filmography? Because I'm not. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:12, 13 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

British Academy Film Awards

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Article: 75th British Academy Film Awards (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ At the 75th British Academy Film Awards, The Power of the Dog wins Best Film. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ At the 75th British Academy Film Awards, The Power of the Dog wins Best Film and Best Director for Jane Campion (pictured).
Credits:

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Expanded, refs and prose. Can't quite remember the blurb format. Kingsif (talk) 21:01, 13 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Brent Renaud

Article: Brent Renaud (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NY Times
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American journalist, writer, documentary filmmaker, and photojournalist. TJMSmith (talk) 15:26, 13 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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RD: Timmy Thomas

Article: Timmy Thomas (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Soultracks
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Article updated and seems to be well sourced Humbledaisy (talk) 20:11, 12 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Ongoing: 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine

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Article: 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
Credits:

Article updated
Nominator's comments: I am surprised nobody has nominated the ukraine war for Ongoing yet (JayPlaysStuff | talk to me | What I've been up to) 16:56, 12 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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RD: Traci Braxton

Article: Traci Braxton (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [1] iheart
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 --Riverflat2021 (talk) 16:48, 12 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Rupiah Banda

Article: Rupiah Banda (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Reuters
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Article updated and well sourced --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 08:11, 12 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) India fires missile into Pakistan

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Article: BrahMos (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ India accidentally fires a missile into Pakistan. (Post)
News source(s): Washington Post, The Guardian; India Times;NYT; BBC
Credits:
  • The death of Shane Warne was lead blurb for a week even though there wasn't much to be said about it ("natural causes") and the section about his death still just has two lines. Andrew🐉(talk) 13:45, 12 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose – Per Masem. Although Pakistan demands investigation, no casualties & not widely covered. – Sca (talk) 13:55, 12 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support pending improvements/creation of standalone article - Both India and Pakistan are nuclear powers. If any other nuclear power (see List of states with nuclear weapons) fired a missile into the territory of another nuclear power (think: U.S., Russia, China, U.K., France, North Korea), this would be posted in a heartbeat, even if it was an accident. It doesn't matter if there are any casualties. It is a significant event in and of itself. There is international news coverage. Also, suggestion for the blurb: "accidentally" is POV as that is India's statement, just like how we did not call the Ukraine invasion a "special military operation" per Russia's statement. 174.3.214.138 (talk) 16:17, 12 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Is there any plausible reason to intentionally fire an unarmed missile at a wall of no strategic value during peacetime? InedibleHulk (talk) 21:30, 12 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    To test anti-missile defence capabilities (and vulnerabilities) of an adversary. Same reason why countries like Russia make incursions into foreign airspace or territorial waters to see how far they can go before they get a response. 174.3.214.138 (talk) 22:12, 12 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I could buy into that. I don't think I will. But it's something to ponder. InedibleHulk (talk) 23:54, 12 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose good faith nom per above. No article is usually a showstopper. Yes, there are exceptions, but this aint one of them. If this actually turns into something that generates a real (non-stub) article, I will reconsider. Until then, this is going nowhere. Suggest close. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:26, 12 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Minor issue, zero casualty. Apparently, there's not even enough story to write a stub article. – Ammarpad (talk) 19:13, 12 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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(Posted) RD: Bruce Duffy

Article: Bruce Duffy (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: First reported today (March 11); died on February 10 (i.e. provable gap of at least two days). —Bloom6132 (talk) 16:37, 12 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) 2021–22 Major League Baseball lockout

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Article: 2021–22 Major League Baseball lockout (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The 2021–22 Major League Baseball lockout ends after 99 days (Post)
News source(s): ESPN
Credits:

Article updated
Nominator's comments: The Major League Baseball lockout is finally over after 99 days, following the ratification of the CBA by both sides. This was a major labor event, especially for an international sports league. Mannysoloway (talk) 01:43, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose For the same reasons this was opposed for when the lockout started. DarkSide830 (talk) 02:27, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose: I like to consider myself a big baseball fan, but I just don't see the significance of this news. Ultimately, this lockout had minimal effects on the average fan's experience. The only noticeable result of the lockout is that the season is going to start about a week later than normal. The rest of the changes are relatively minor rules changes such as universal DH and other labor/contract related stuff that the average fan wouldn't really understand and the long-term effects of which would probably take at least season to understand. Not to mention, it's not even the number one headline on ESPN right now (at least for me).  Bait30  Talk 2 me pls? 02:29, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Effectively only a few games of the season have been missed. Not a serious effect. --Masem (t) 02:31, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
They haven't even been missed, just rescheduled. DadOfTheYear2022 (talk) 04:07, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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RD: Yevhen Deidei

Article: Yevhen Deidei (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [2]
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Ukrainian politician and military officer. TJMSmith (talk) 14:33, 12 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support article looks pretty good, but I'm not sure that the section on his financial earnings and net worth has much encyclopedic value. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 14:53, 12 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Under sourced (including some contentious claims), a number of parts look like a hit piece, some sources are dubious. Black Kite (talk)

RD: Odalis Pérez

Article: Odalis Pérez (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ESPN
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Dominican baseball starting pitcher. The "Personal life" section does not have citations and the section on his death is very short as of now. ActuallyNeverHappened02 (a place to chalk | a list of stuff i've done) 22:32, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Jürgen Grabowski

Article: Jürgen Grabowski (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): FAZ
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: German footballer, played for Eintracht Frankfurt. He became European champion in 1972 and world champion in 1974. Grimes2 (talk) 19:40, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Grimes2 (talk) 00:35, 12 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Emilio Delgado

Article: Emilio Delgado (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Deadline Hollywood
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Long-time actor on Sesame Street as Luis, the fix-it shop owner. Article needs sourcing help. Masem (t) 03:55, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: John Elliott (historian)

Article: John Elliott (historian) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Telegraph
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Eminent British historian of Early Modern Spain and the Iberian World. —Brigade Piron (talk) 20:17, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Mario Terán

Article: Mario Terán (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Los Tiempos
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Bolivian warrant officer who carried out the execution of Che Guevara in 1967. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 15:34, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Far too much of the article centers on Che's exploits that have nothing to do with Terán. I understand we've completely abandoned WP:1E, but BLPs still should be about the person in the title. GreatCaesarsGhost 16:46, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Kimberley Kitching

Article: Kimberley Kitching (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ABC News
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Australian Senator for the Labor Party. Died suddenly of a heart attack. Anarchyte (talk) 09:15, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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(Ready) RD: Mary Coombs

Article: Mary Coombs (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Telegraph, The Guardian
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: First woman to work as a commercial computer programmer. Earliest death announcement on this date [3] with news sources following later. Joofjoof (talk) 08:55, 14 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Donald Pinkel

Article: Donald Pinkel (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times; The Commercial Appeal
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 07:41, 13 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Inge Deutschkron

Article: Inge Deutschkron (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Tagesspiegel
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: German and Isreali journalist, 99, eyewitness of the Holocaust and activist for not forgetting. The article was basically there, I only distributed the existing refs more. There's more material if needed. Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:07, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: David Wheeler

Article: David Wheeler (Alabama politician) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Montgomery Advertiser
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Incumbent state representative from Alabama. Kafoxe (talk) 20:14, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Tomás Boy

Article: Tomás Boy (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ESPN MARCA
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Mexican football manager and former player. Captained the Mexican national football team at the 1986 FIFA World Cup. Won two Primera División titles with Tigres UANL. Managed several Liga MX teams in a managing career that spanned three decades. --2806:109F:1:1A1E:4040:1912:AAD9:6AE2 (talk) 18:43, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) Presidential election in South Korea

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Yoon Suk-yeol
Article: 2022 South Korean presidential election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A presidential election is held in South Korea. (Post)
Alternative blurb: South Koreans head to the polls to elect their next president.
Alternative blurb II: Yoon Suk-yeol (pictured) is elected president of South Korea.
News source(s): Reuters The New York Times South China Morning Post, AP, BBC
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

 Blurengo (talk) 18:29, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Wait Article is fine, I'm pretty certain its going to be Yoon who wins, but very few outlets have called it just yet, it would be preferred if we put the victor of the election. Until that is called, I think we should wait. Ornithoptera (talk) 19:20, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait per above. Hcoder3104☭ (💬) 19:43, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Seems like news outlets are more or less comfortably calling Yoon the winner by now, so I've proposed a blurb to reflect that.--Sunshineisles2 (talk) 21:21, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment The picture in use on Yoon's page and the election page seems to be from the election commission, and is probably a public license but I'm not sure. As a backup I added an image that is acceptable but it's got some image resolution quality issues. Also there's plenty of unsourced text on the page, but we do have a concession and race calls. Omnifalcon (talk) 23:25, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Stephen: I have now added references to most of the paragraphs. I couldn’t find any references for one part though (I have added a citations needed there). There might be a source for it in Korean though.  Hamza Ali Shah  10:27, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) RD: David Bennett

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Article: David Bennett Sr. (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
 Andrew🐉(talk) 17:28, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • That's the notable part. Hcoder3104☭ (💬) 19:44, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Then how does this article not fail WP:BIO1E? The general rule is to cover the event, not the person. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:47, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I see this was kept at AfD. I'll just walk away from this, nothing good will come of my involvement here. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:48, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per concerns raised by Muboshgu. This does not appear to be a complete biographical article and the subject likely fails WP:1E. I took a look at the AfD and all I can say is that the discussion is embarrassing in its near complete refusal to address policy and guidelines. -Ad Orientem (talk) 00:34, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per above. It isn't a biography at all, it's an article about a pig organ transplant under the wrong title. Pawnkingthree (talk) 01:17, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose, not a biography and shouldn't even exist Bumbubookworm (talk) 01:50, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Re-opening this, because despite the non-admin closure above, the article was snow kept. RD does not debate notability.--WaltCip-(talk) 19:47, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support passes notability, defied an AFD, article is up to scratch, death is "in the news". The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 19:53, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - the only detail of his life other than the transplant, is a section on his crime and time in jail. As such it seems the article is unduly focused on negative aspects of this guy's life. If some more detail is added about the rest of his life, then I might support. Either he's notable, and we should give him a full bio, or he's not notable, in which case the article should be moved to some other title which focuses on the transplant only.  — Amakuru (talk) 22:15, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    As a reminder, the article was nominated for deletion and was kept. So the "community at large" believe him to have satisfied GNG. As I noted on ITN talk, this has already been subject to IAR. Perhaps it's going to experience a double-IAR: the community believe him to be notable yet ITN don't, so no likey, no posty. What's available about his life seems to be already covered, he's probably got a shit-ton more coverage globally than most of the Indonesian naval officers etc we post combined, but there you go. Wikipedia at its finest. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 22:49, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Well far be it from me to question the outcome of the AFD, Ramblo, but really I'm just applying the same standard as I would apply to any other BLP. If there are large gaps in the biographical narrative then I don't consider the article ready for RD. Particularly when the only coverage of the first 99% of his life is focused on a crime he committed. If such coverage is provided, then I might reconsider. Objecting on that ground is not relitigating the AFD, it's simply stating that the article as it stands isn't of sufficient quality as a standalone biography.  — Amakuru (talk) 13:21, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Simply not enough information in the article to say it meets the level of a biographical article. DarkSide830 (talk) 23:33, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Obvious BLP1E, that AfD has some of the most useless Keep comments I have ever seen (especially the latter ones). Should be a redirect to Xenotransplantation#History where all the actually useful information should be found. Black Kite (talk) 23:37, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • information Administrator note I'd discount the notability objections in the absence of a new AfD. However, I dont see consensus to post yet either.—Bagumba (talk) 08:57, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Stats I nominated this because he was in the news (again) and that's what we're here for right? But I'm not convinced that there's much point to RD because the entries are just names and so, unless there's some name recognition, most readers won't have a reason to click through. You can see this by checking the readership. Even though he's being snubbed by RD, David Bennett is doing fine compared to most of the RDs. So, clearly our readers are finding their own way to these articles. Only Kimberley Kitching is doing better as her name seems especially distinctive and memorable. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:56, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    ITN and RD are not and have not been subordinated to clicks and view counts, otherwise it would just be WP:TOP50 as many here have opined. WaltCip-(talk) 13:24, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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(Closed) Ukrainian refugee crisis

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Nominator's comments: If this and the entry below are both approved I understand the invasion article will be moved to "ongoing" thus removing the reason for the closure of yesterday's nomination. The article has been greatly improved by other editors since yesterday, but if any quality issues remain please could you tag exactly where in the article itself - thanks Chidgk1 (talk) 08:22, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Discovery of the Endurance

Proposed image
Endurance in 1915
Article: Endurance (1912 ship) (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The wreck of the Endurance, the ship sunk during Ernest Shackleton's Imperial Trans-Antarctic Expedition, is found. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In Antarctica, an expedition locates the wreck of the ship Endurance, sunk in 1915 during Ernest Shackleton's Imperial Trans-Antarctic Expedition
News source(s): The New York Times, BBC, Guardian
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Arguably the biggest maritime discovery since that of the Titanic{{u|Sdkb}}talk 07:27, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

And, willy-nilly, instead of writing here, every pro/contra letter inserted here, if inserted into improvement of the article, would make more (useful/productive) sense, IMHO☆☆☆—PietadèTalk 21:29, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Endurance sinking


  • Support ... per Modest, Bsoyka – pending article development. Found sunken ships always are of high reader interest. Fairly widely covered. Good art of wreck might become avail. Colorized 1915 photo above doesn't really tell the story. This might be a more appropriate pic. →
    Sca (talk) 14:09, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The nominated picture was not colorized; it was taken with the Paget process. Andrew🐉(talk) 16:57, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Aha. Interesting. – Sca (talk) 18:45, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Agree, partially, let's wait for the ice becoming thinner and thinner, no need to wait some teenager to point our attention to it; read the article too, eventually (1st attention to the subject was drawn by the empty dish plates presented by BBC), and, it indeed, the piece needs some (strong?) author's touch to rise higher (btw, Mrs., male cats, mesdames, odd...)☆☆☆—PietadèTalk 21:10, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Besides, in about 6 hrs the coverage has widened/improved, so, not a 60 meters run on win...☆☆☆—PietadèTalk 21:14, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

March 8

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RD: Gordon Lee (footballer)

Article: Gordon Lee (footballer) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Guardian
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: English footballer and football manager. His wikibio is already long enough. Could use more footnotes and maybe some copyediting -- this is almost ready for RD. --PFHLai (talk) 04:44, 14 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Leo Marx

Article: Leo Marx (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

Article updated
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 Thriley (talk) 06:39, 13 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: This wikibio is currently a 250-word stub. Is there more on him to write about? One must wonder how he got such an impressive list of accolades. BTW, that list needs footnotes. --PFHLai (talk) 15:15, 13 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Nelson W. Aldrich Jr.

Article: Nelson W. Aldrich Jr. (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

Article updated
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 Bloom6132 (talk) 09:17, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Ron Miles

Article: Ron Miles (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Denver Post; The Mercury News; NPR; The Denver Gazette
Credits:

Article updated
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 Bloom6132 (talk) 19:36, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Margaret Farrow

Article: Margaret Farrow (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Milwaukee Journal Sentinel
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: First female lieutenant governor of Wisconsin. Kafoxe (talk) 19:01, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Conrad Janis

Article: Conrad Janis (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: First reported today (March 8); died on March 1 (i.e. provable gap of at least two days). —Bloom6132 (talk) 06:32, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Russian invasion

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Proposal: Change Russia's '''[[2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine|invasion]]''' of Ukraine to '''[[2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine|Russia's invasion of Ukraine]]'''.--Hildeoc (talk) 15:28, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

oh I misread - and misled you as nothing to do with Belarus - support as more obvious link Chidgk1 (talk) 19:01, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
You get the coveted CVU (Creative Verb Use) award for this week. – Sca (talk) 14:20, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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(Closed) Move Russian invasion of Ukraine to ongoing

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Article: 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: No blurb specified (Post)
Credits:

Article updated
Nominator's comments: To make room for other news items. Probably no need for "2022" Chidgk1 (talk) 15:26, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • That's not an actual rule, no matter how many times people try and invoke it. This event should be on ongoing, as it's an ongoing event. The blurb for it is stale- like most of the ITN box. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:43, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
My reason for proposing this is to be able to add one of the consequences of war rejected below. I may propose one of them again tomorrow - meanwhile I hope some industrious Americans will improve them as I sleep. Chidgk1 (talk) 17:54, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The Freedom Convoy tried that. InedibleHulk (talk) 18:14, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Putin is a capitalist and has no intention on bringing back the Soviet Union. Hcoder3104☭ (💬) 19:17, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It was an ostensible capitalist who invaded a neighboring country in 1939. The other guy went along for the ride. – Sca (talk) 19:46, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, if not today, then make sure that it happens as soon as it is pushed off of ITN by more recent events. The eyes of the world are on this situation. Side note - Speculation about Putin's motivations or worldviews are not pertinent to whether or not this is a story appropriate to categorize as "Ongoing". Thanks to all for their contributions. KConWiki (talk) 20:11, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose and close as no reason has been provided to reopen this settled discussion. GreatCaesarsGhost 20:48, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Will major future developments in the war be considered for blurbs, or will nothing other than its conclusion be considered important enough for that? Jim Michael (talk) 21:59, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, major incidents and developments will always be considered. Stephen 22:07, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose To make room for other news items? My understanding is that it rolls off ITN as soon as new blurbs are posted, just like any other hook. As such, it's literally impossible for a hook to be 'blocking' the ability to have more news items, unless editors oppose any other reasonable nomination on the basis that this hook stays up (in which case, evidence?). Otherwise you're just advocating pulling a blurb that is actually in the news, because ... ? ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 22:17, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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(Closed) Russia in the European energy sector

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Article: Russia in the European energy sector (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Europe considers stopping buying Russian oil. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Russia threatens to cut gas supply to Europe.
Alternative blurb II: Prices increase as oil and gas flows from Russia to Europe are disrupted.
News source(s): [9][10][11][12][13][14][15]
Credits:
 Chidgk1 (talk) 06:52, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It is already newsworthy enough for the major news companies linked above. Although it seems unlikely that Germany will boycott Russian oil they have done several unlikely things over the past week already. The guideline you link to includes "It is appropriate to report discussion and arguments about ... whether some development will occur". The gas flow has not completely stopped and may not, but according to the DW source one pipeline has stopped already. That and the speculation of more has increased many people's gas or petrol bills - maybe even yours. Some people are interested in news which is already increasing their bills. Chidgk1 (talk) 07:58, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Food prices

 Chidgk1 (talk) 08:47, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Ukrainian refugee crisis

 Chidgk1 (talk) 09:23, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Question The war is obviously a crisis, but is the refugee situation itself a crisis yet? I see a quote in the article that it could become one, but currently it seems neighbouring countries had prepared for this many and are handling it about as well as such things go. That's not to diminish the alleged unequal treatment, but I think "crisis" might be a bit much, this soon. InedibleHulk (talk) 10:15, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I don't have an opinion on the name of the article - anyway it is not used in the blurb Chidgk1 (talk) 10:17, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'm more worried about linking to an inaccurate article, by any pipe. It's not just the title. The situation is described as a crisis throughout, alongside several ways these refugees have it easier than past refugees under new regulations. InedibleHulk (talk) 10:24, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Edited article to add official cite for "crisis" https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-exodus-is-fastest-growing-refugee-crisis-europe-since-ww2-unhcr-chief-2022-03-06 Chidgk1 (talk) 10:45, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
A solid tweet, carry on. InedibleHulk (talk) 11:06, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

So everyone, if your questions have been answered, do you support or oppose? Chidgk1 (talk) 11:31, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at the invasion article you are right the section there needs trimming now this article exists - I will take a look. Please could you tag exactly where the problems in this article are so people can fix them.Chidgk1 (talk) 12:04, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Too many places. From "largest" to multiple "could", "would" and "will" to "grave" and "phenomenal". Just look around. InedibleHulk (talk) 12:14, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I have now deleted the detail from 2022_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine#Refugees as you suggested. If you could tag exactly where the most serious problems are with this article I suspect they will be fixed quickly by other editors. Chidgk1 (talk) 12:20, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That's not what I suggested. Williams' "quote" and suggestion of IDPs isn't in the citation. That's serious enough. InedibleHulk (talk) 12:28, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for pointing that out - I think the editor who added it cited the "live" section of the newspaper which has since been updated - replaced with a stable cite. If there are other problems could you possibly tag exactly where on the article itself rather than here in case I am not available to fix them - there seem to be a lot of editors actively improving it. Chidgk1 (talk) 13:04, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose on quality as the article has tag for needs to be updated, and the "Alleged unequal treatment at the borders" is massively WP:UNDUE as it's about half the article text. I'm not convinced that even if the article is fixed, then it should be posted (I'm neutral, leaning oppose on this)- there have been many mass migrations, and we wouldn't even consider posting this if it weren't in Europe (we didn't post the Syrian one after all). Joseph2302 (talk) 11:51, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
You are right that section was a bit too large - have trimmed. I suspect most "in the news" articles need update as the news develops - I only tagged it a few hours ago but if no one updates it I will delete the Netherlands section as it only has one reliable source. I did not know about "in the news" at the time but as I live in the country with the most Syrian refugees I would have strongly supported it. There are several other editors on this article so if you could tag exactly where the most serious remaining problems are I expect they will be fixed quickly. Chidgk1 (talk) 12:45, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry I don't quite understand - could you explain more fully? Chidgk1 (talk) 13:10, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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March 7

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RD: Vitaly Gerasimov

Article: Vitaly Gerasimov (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [18]
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Russian Ground Forces major general. An ongoing AFD appears to be leaning towards keep. TJMSmith (talk) 13:07, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Nadungamuwa Raja

Article: Nadungamuwa Raja (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

Article needs updating
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Nominator's comments: Indian elephant. Sacred in Sri Lanka. I have not gotten to working the article yet. But, will do so and share an update. If someone wants to work this before me, please feel free to join-in. Ktin (talk) 05:16, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Vasily Astafyev

Article: Vasily Astafyev (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): 59
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Recipient of the Hero of the Soviet Union award. DadOfTheYear2022 (talk) 18:44, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Lynda Baron

Article: Lynda Baron (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC Evening Standard
Credits:

Article updated
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 90.243.179.12 (talk) 15:45, 7 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Muhammad Rafiq Tarar

Article: Muhammad Rafiq Tarar (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  Former President of Pakistan Muhammad Rafiq Tarar dies at the age of 92. (Post)
News source(s): Radio Rakistan, GeoTV
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: The ninth President of Pakistan. This wikibio is obviously long enough (1000+ words), but it could use more footnotes and maybe some tidying up. PFHLai (talk) 11:00, 7 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Weak Support RD / No Blurb Article length meets the minimum standards for RD but I am not impressed with the level of coverage for the head of state for a country like Pakistan. -Ad Orientem (talk) 19:21, 7 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose blurb figurehead chief of state while a military junta was in place Bumbubookworm (talk) 20:42, 7 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak support RD, oppose blurb just about enough content to post at RD, though if there's anything that could be added on what he did since 2001, that would be good. Oppose blurb for reasons I mentioned above. Joseph2302 (talk) 20:56, 7 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • EXTREMELY strong support RD, could go either way on blurb Pakistan is the 5th largest country in the world by population, its population is about two-thirds that of the USA. This may not be the best article but it does meet minimum RD requirements, and even if Tarar wasn't the most influential Pakistani leader in history, he was still leader of the fifth-largest country. 1779Days (talk) 05:33, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
My goodness, I was considering !voting to support this RD, but now that someone has given an EXTREMELY strong support, it doesn't seem necessary.--WaltCip-(talk) 13:32, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That's about equal to 10 supports, I'd say. DadOfTheYear2022 (talk) 04:43, 9 March 2022 (UTC) [reply]
As President of Pakistan notes: "The president of Pakistan, officially the President of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, is the ceremonial head of state of Pakistan and the commander-in-chief of the Pakistan Armed Forces"; though the position of the President in Pakistan has been significant but only under dictators such as Pervez Musharraf. The Prime Minister has been the main executive in Pakistan (the only breaks being under dictator presidents) and was somewhat semi-presidential but that was further devolved into parliamentary/premiership under Nawaz Sharif in the 1990s. The last non-dictator/civilian presidents of note were Ghulam Ishaq Khan and Asif Ali Zardari (the latter still alive who even further dissolved the presidency) with prime-ministers of note being Sharif and Yousaf Raza Gillani. Half of Tarar's ceremonial presidency (1998–2001) was during the military dictatorship of Musharraf (1999–2008) when the latter served as the effective head of state. I doubt we have/would post blurbs for figureheads unless quite notable themselves (e.g. Queen Elizabeth II). Gotitbro (talk) 10:48, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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