Talk:Zelda Fitzgerald

Plagiarism, Scott, Etc.

Why is there no mention of the passages which Scott lifted verbatim from her letters to him and her private diary to use in "his own" short stories as well as Tender Is The Night? The Collected Writings of Zelda Fitzgerald provides numerous examples of his plagiarism of her writings as well as an article she wrote which playfully chastises him for stealing from her. There is, also, no mention of how he forced her to re-edit her novel under the threat of endless confinement to institutions because he feared that since Tender & Save Me The Watlz covered the same territory and he was stealing her writing that he would be found out and lose sales. Also, there ought to be more mention devoted to her painting.

Hi,

Where the hell does someone get the factoid of "Legend of Zelda" is named after Zelda Fitzgerald?

Thanks!!!11111111oneone

I don't have a source at hand, but I do remember that it was actually a direct answer from Miyamoto in an interview. The Japanese have a habit of using English words and names from more or less esoteric sources in their games, manga, and anime.--Lord Shitzu 17:07, August 12, 2005 (UTC)

It's now explained in a footnote.Sfahey 22:20, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Zelda

read more...try Scott Fitzgerald's stories...she was more than just a wife of a famous novelist. She loved Berneice Bobs Her Hair and A Diamond As Big as the Ritz....

"DON'T LISTEN TO THIS"

There is a very large "DON'T LISTEN TO THIS:" right before the body of the biography section. I realize there may be some sort of tone discretion, but is there some larger reason for this? It is rather imposing.

adverbially excessively excessive?

I raised the neutrality question on the basis of what appears to be decisions by the bio writer to put down assumptions about the subject's state of mind, which is not necessarily supported by record and reflects on the biographer rather than the subject. It is not "obvious" that Zelda was jealous, or for that matter, it IS curious what she says about Hemingway, but I'm not sure that critical curiosity needs to be explored in an encyclopedia entry. Excerpted phrases that read like bias are below:

"For the most part, Zelda's dislike for Hemingway was obviously due to jealousy

"But it is fascinating in retrospect to reflect on Zelda's estimation of Hemingway's character"

"It is also curious"

"But Scott was totally dismissive of his wife's desire to become a professional dancer, considering it a waste of time."

"Ironically, much of the conflict between them stemmed from the boredom and isolation Zelda experienced when Scott was writing"

"Zelda evidently had a deep desire to develop a talent that was entirely her own, no doubt a reaction to Scott's fame and success as a writer."

The article itself is interesting, but not necessarily useful as an encyclopedia entry.

Interestingly, I just stumbled upon this article (after reading "Beautiful and Damned" and wanting to read about the real "Gloria") and unknowingly I have altered most all the valid stylistic errors you point out. I am going to remove the label from the article now. Sfahey 22:01, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

using first names?

in the context of the novel, is it proper to use "zelda" and "scott" alone? isn't it normally the last name? -brian

in the context of the novel? Sfahey 01:07, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Since they have the same last name (being married and everything), I think it makes sense to differentiate within the article between Scott and Zelda using their given names. But what do you mean by the context of the novel?