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Deragatory slang
A discussion in the WikiFairy talk page inadvertantly brought up an interesting point... why is there no mention in this article of the fact that the word "fairy" has been used as a derogatory term for homosexual men? I don't condone the use of insults and such, but since Wikipedia is concerned with reporting facts and cultural situations, it would seem to make sense to include a bit of background information, specifically when the slang term first came into common use and possible explanations of the origin. - Ugliness Man 11:10, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
- Cite some reliable sources and we will. --Damian Yerrick (☎) 05:48, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
How about: http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/fairy - there are other uses of the word fairy as well - such as a type of hummingbird, a leading brand of washing up liquid and its also used in Pokeman PlotterFairy (talk) 18:28, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
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Who coined this ?!? From a psychological point of view naming a homosexual man a fairy is critical ! Fairies are manifestations of the Anima archetype in a male psyche, cf. - Dr. Joan Relke: The Archetypal Female in Mythology and Religion: The Anima and the Mother. Very likely this term was coined by heterosexual men to devaluate homosexual men, however the heterosexuals who did this are in a critical psychic state because they have an extremely negative relationship towards their Anima. Very likely the heterosexuals who coined this term are under the influence by a patriarchic culture, very likely they are monotheists, either christians or muslims. In the monotheistic religions the relation of Animus and Anima is out of balance ( deities represent only Animus, i.e. father, son, holy ghost, females like i.e. Mary only receive and obey commands, in the monotheistic religions are no souvereign female deities ). The monotheistic religions force the Anima to be suppressed, what leads to exactly the symptoms that can be observed here: devaluation of anything that is related to Anima, i.e. burning of witches (Femicide), ... In a normal male psyche a fairy or the Anima should be valued as something positive, here a fairy, as a symbol for the Anima, is used to express hate This critical psychological state becomes also obvious in the huge list of derogatory terms for homosexuals in the US culture : List_of_LGBT_slang_terms (for my personal feeling this is all hate speech) My native language is German we have 2 or 3 words for homosexuals How to say gay in German I know the common reflex to link Germans to fascism in the US culture but you should know one thing: Adolf Hitler had a secret : He was a Christian like you ! Likewise as his clerical-fascist dictator friends in Slovakia (Josef Tizo), in Spain (Francisco Franco), in Croatia (Ustase, Miroslav Filipović), in Romania (Iron Guard - Legion of Archangel Michael), in Vichy-France, ... And Hjalmar Schacht was a freemason, like many of your presidents, Allen Dulles regularily met with the fascist leadership in Basel in the Bank for International Settlements. The christians considered fascism as a bulwark against atheist bolshevism, this is the reason why the CIA recruited so many high ranking Nazis after WWII, i.e. Reinhard Gehlen, a Knight of Malta, and so again a christian like you. But this is only additional information, however information that is not completely unlinked, because in the christian worldview the balance between Animus and Anima is also broken. In addition the exaggerated interest in the sexuality of others is an item in the F-Scale (F-scale (personality_test)) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:2450:102C:38A:31DA:3472:670F:1DE9 (talk) 04:55, 25 October 2019 (UTC) |
Some proposed changes
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Information to be added or removed: a change in "in art" paragraph. I would like to add the illustrator "Swonild Ilenia Genovese" Explanation of issue: the author has produced two illustrated books entirely dedicated to fairies called "AcquaBosco fairies" References supporting change: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=acquabosco&ref=nb_sb_noss 93.48.88.79 (talk) 09:30, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
- Not done, they don't appear notable enough for inclusion here. – Thjarkur (talk) 18:14, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
A misplaced illustration with a misleading caption
"Classic representation of a small fairy with butterfly wings commonly used in modern times. Luis Ricardo Falero, 1888."
It is placed randomly at an end of one section (Characteristics), illustrating literally nothing.
"Classic" should be changed to "modern", and the picture moved to illustrate the Depictions section where the modern concept of fairies with wings is talked about. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.173.104.162 (talk) 09:43, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
Repeating my request after 3 weeks with no response. Or just to unblock the article for edits, and I'll probably fix other things too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.173.114.12 (talk) 16:08, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
- Partly done: moved image to more relevant section, but rewrote caption as sentence fragment that avoids repetition of "modern". Next time, from the article, click the "View source" tab, then the blue "Submit an edit request" button on the right, and follow the instructions there. That method automatically attaches a template that hails someone to review the request. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 20:46, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
Fairies in Discworld
Should a reference be added to the Discworld portrayal of faries, in the 'In literature ' section? <span style="font-family: Blackadder ITC; background-color: lightgreen; padding: 2px 3px 1px 3px;">[[User:Qwerfjkl|<span style="color: brown">Qwerfjkl</span>]] [[User talk:Qwerfjkl|<span style="color: purple">talk</span>]]</span> (talk) 20:02, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
Probable misspelling in Etymology
Besides the lack of reference for the first paragraph, some other online sources like the Wikitionary and the Online Etymology Dictionary, suggests that the spelling is Faerie or Færie, not Faierie. Neither Faie, but Fae[1][2][3]. Even the source of the second paragraph [4], that credits that "In Old French romance, a faie or fee[...]", does not mention Faierie neither Faie with those spellings, but do mention a Faerie Queene and an Abode of the Faes. Fee, however is in tune to the sources.
The possible misspelling appears five times in three different sentences:
- "Faerie, in turn, derives from the Old French form faierie, a derivation from faie (from Vulgar Latin fata) with the abstract noun suffix -erie." -- in the first paragraph.
- "In Old French romance, a faie or fee was a woman skilled in magic, and who knew the power and virtue of words, of stones, and of herbs." -- in the second paragraph.
- "Faie became Modern English fay, while faierie became fairy, but this spelling almost exclusively refers to one individual (the same meaning as fay). In the sense of "land where fairies dwell", archaic spellings faery and faerie are still in use." -- in the third paragraph.
I suggest to adapt the first sentence to be in a more fine tune with the sources (removing, for example "with the abstract noun suffix -erie.") and then add the mentioned sources, or others. Even Tolkien when mentioning faierie with an i mentions it explaining a mistake made by an Oxford Dictionary edition prior to A.D. 1450PDF page 4.
--Carretinha (talk) 05:53, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
Move discussion in progress
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Feary (surname) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 13:51, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
Work of H.P. Lovecraft about Fairy as "Hidden people"
Could just someone edit the rubric "Hidden people" of this page "Fairy" for mention the work of Lovecraft about this ?
In 1932, the famous writer H.P. Lovecraft writes a short text about this thesis :"Some backgrounds of Fairyland" Reference : H.P. Lovecraft. « Some backgrounds of Fairyland » in Marginalia, Arkham House, 1944, p. 174-181. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:E0A:A36:1630:A88D:1D8:F5B:5BE7 (talk) 14:16, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
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