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Sorry if this is messy or in the wrong spot, but you're probably used to this by now, and it makes sense that I'm coming here to thank you for always and without complaint, cleaning up after me, fixing formatting and grammar and spellling. You do a grea job of making my contributions actually seem worthwhile. Cheers, mate. ALso, sorry for this rushed garbled message, but I love to see people that actually care about using the language properly (although i haven't done well here in this message, hence the apology. consider this a stream of consciousness on a roll of paper, and please forgive me ;) ) CHeers again Panglossx (talk) 


01:22, 9 June 2016 (UTC)


Precious again

"the present tense indicates the present condition"
Thank you for quality articles on Canadian politics and their people, such as Parti Québécois leadership election, 2005 and Janet Ecker, for tireless copyediting, "there are lots of Democratic and Republican parties around the world" and "the present tense indicates the present condition", for a user page full of advice, - repeating: you are an awesome Wikipedian (24 December 2010)!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:33, 19 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A year ago, you were the 891st recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:04, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Six years ago, you were recipient no. 891 of Precious, a prize of QAI! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:04, 19 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

WP:Naming conventions (music)

Hi. I note you didn't make reference to the relevant guideline in closing Tommy (album). Would it be possible to update your close with reference to guideline? In ictu oculi (talk) 16:19, 11 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

2015 Canadian election talkpage

Following your invitation, generally I think you have communicated well. However in your post at 12:28, 22 June 2015 you replied accusing another editor of doing stuff which they hadn't done for at least a post or two. This had the effect of winding that editor up again. Graemp (talk) 15:45, 23 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for this feedback on the discussion at Talk:42nd Canadian federal election. I have been frustrated that his disrespectful behaviour keeps recurring. I take your point generally that it is best to let sleeping dogs lie, but in this case I was responding to his comment about conspiracy theories, which he had repeated. I should have made it clear that I was focusing on that comment and not on other issues. Regards, Ground Zero | t 20:25, 23 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No Gun Ri

Hello,

Hope you're doing well. I noticed that you made an edit at No Gun Ri Massacre, which has seen a very heated debate between Cjhanley and WeldNeck which has seethed for years.

Part of it revolves around a sourcing dispute, namely, the credibility of the U.S. No Gun Ri Review Report, the initial AP reports (particularly the credibility of certain eyewitnesses), and of historian Robert Bateman. In general, the page has been a battleground, with frequent personal attacks, accusations of POV, bold edits against consensus, and so on, although it has calmed down as of late. It is important to note that Cjhanley is in fact one of the AP reporters who initially broke the No Gun Ri story, and was awarded the Pulitzer Prize; also, WeldNeck has accused him of a conflict of interest. Both editors have compiled extensive lists of their grievances, and have dragged one another to ANI: [1][2][3][4][5] WeldNeck also attacked Cjhanley as a sock: [6]. Neither editor is blameless, to say the least.

For some time, I, along with Timothyjosephwood, Wikimedes, and Irondome have attempted to mediate, and we have successfully imposed an unofficial "freeze" on editing the page without prior proposals. While the situation is not urgent, I would appreciate any help an experienced editor such as yourself could offer. If you are interested, I can also provide some sources to provide background, although some can also be found on the page's external links category.

Thanks very much,

GeneralizationsAreBad (talk) 22:40, 30 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you!

Dear GroundZero, thank you for making a swift change to the page Freiburger Turnerschaft von 1844. I appreciate your efforts in the battle against vaguery, and the explanation of "currently" as an unnecessary adverb was very helpful. Sincerely, AmiableWookie (talk) 08:49, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sig thing

Any chance you would you replace the | in your sig with the entity code |? This would prevent its appearance there from breaking templates when your sig appears within them.  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼  03:48, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • I don't understand what the problem is, but I've made the change. I hope that works. Regards, Ground Zero | t 13:54, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    • It will. :-) It was that the bare | in your sig was being interpreted as a parameter marker. See difference between these two:
      • "Foo!" – Ground Zero
      • "Foo!" – Ground Zero | t
 — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼  13:15, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Matthew Steen page edits

GroundZero,

(Sorry if I am contacting you in the wrong place, I am not sure how to do it any other way)

In the talk:Matthew Steen page you mentioned: "At the same time, SJE did remove a whole lot of referenced content."

Sort of depends on how we are defining "referenced." Not only were there numerous passages with made up links, there were also numerous references that linked to documents unrelated to Steen. There were also numerous instances where he cited documents that were unrelated to whatever he was trying to say.

If you can point one (or more) out to me that I messed up, I will gladly revert them.

V/r,

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Keith Vaz

Ground, could you possibly look at I/P 83.216.94.186's recent edits on Keith Vaz? Thanks in advance JRPG (talk) 20:55, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Capitalization of institutions

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Re: Frances Ames

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Progressive Conservative leadership election, 1983

I'm thinking it might be fun to submit Progressive Conservative leadership election, 1983 for consideration as a good article. Any recommendations as to what we can do to make it better? Knoper (talk) 17:26, 10 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

My concern is that parts of the article are written in a very journalistic style, which is not what we should be aiming for. An encyclopedia article should report the facts, rather than tell a good story. We should especially be avoiding journalese. As well, as is often the case when many people are editing the same text, some of the sentences are growing long and unwieldy as different people add bits and pieces to sentences without trying to read the result. I will take another run-though to copyedit this. Another concern is going to be that it relies heavily on the Martin, Gregg and Perlin book, which is obviously the authoritative source, but I think people don't like to see such reliance on one source. It may be necessary to go back to newspapers of the day to bump it up a bit. Ground Zero | t 13:21, 11 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Userpage

Did you notice this edit? Fences&Windows 00:35, 10 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I saw and reverted that edit. I didn't know what to make of it - whether it was intended as a compliment or as vandalism. Thanks for pointing it out. Ground Zero | t 22:19, 11 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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How is "Barclays Bank Canada" a British article? It was chartered in Canada and operated exclusively in Canada. This is just sloppy and heavy-handed editing on your part. Also, "license" as a verb is normally spelled with an "s" in both UK and Canadian English. "Licence" is the noun. Ground Zero | t 01:17, 26 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It was a subsidiary (currently a branch) of a British company operating internationally, so you cannot claim national ownership. The English Wikipedia prefers no major national variety of the language over any other. An article should not be edited simply to switch from one variety of English to another. 2.27.75.26 (talk) 23:13, 26 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that Barclays Bank is a UK company. If it were acquired by Bank of America, it would remain principally a UK company, chartered in and operating in the UK, and I would oppose changing the spelling in its article to US spelling. In any event, this discussion will be resolved on the article talk pages, not on a user's talk page, do take up the discussion there. Ground Zero | t 00:53, 27 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The Times (of London) is owned by News Corp, an American company. Should we change the spelling of words in its article to US spelling? Ground Zero | t 02:17, 27 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
More importantly, I did not edit any article to switch from one variant of English to another. The edit in question was a change of "licence" as a verb to "license", which is the usual spelling in both Canada and the UK. Ground Zero | t 02:08, 27 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Reply to "More on formatting"

Hello, Ground Zero.

I do apologize for making these mistakes, but please understand that I did not make these mistakes to intentionally inconvenience anybody. I will do my best to avoid making mistakes such as these from this moment forward, however; you may find other mistakes that I have already made in other articles. If you do find more of my mistakes, I hope that you point them out to me so that I may fix them rather than indiscriminately undoing entire edits of mine. I will do my best to track down any mistake that I may have already made and fix it.

Thanks in advance,

—  SomeGuyWhoRandomlyEdits (talk) 16:13, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • I do apologize for my recent edit of the Ishme-Dagan I article. I intended in immediately correcting my mistakes (such as using the Akkadian names for people and places), however; the power in my building temporarily went out and so I lost my internet connection along with all the progress I was making. I have now done my best to correct these mistakes. If you notice any more mistakes, please point them out to me. —  SomeGuyWhoRandomlyEdits (talk) 16:20, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

BAMN

Please explain how this sentence is misleading. Also explain how having a third-party opinion of the TWP by the Southern Poverty Law Center, but no third-party opinion of BAMN, contributes to the article's balance and neutrality. --50.46.239.77 (talk) 23:09, 29 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The source says that BAMN was discussed during a seminar on domestic terrorism, and that the seminar was dedicated to discussion of groups "thought to be involved in terrorist activities." And this is exactly what the sentence you removed said. In your reply, don't forget to address my second point about third-party opinions and neutrality. --50.46.239.77 (talk) 23:20, 29 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
And it left out the bit about the FBI acknowledging that Michigan police had information that BAMN had been peaceful, and that this was 21 years ago with no further claims of BAMN being possibly involved in terrorist activities since. When you add those bits on, you see that there is virtually nothing left to this accusation. If you can't come up with something better that this, you really have to conclude that there is nothing to it. Ground Zero | t 23:27, 29 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You still have not addressed my second point. Also, the claim that "this was 21 years ago" (which is false, the seminar was in 2002) does nothing to invalidate the fact that the FBI had designated BAMN as a group thought to be involved in terrorist activities. Neither does your second point about the Michigan police. --50.46.239.77 (talk) 23:35, 29 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

21 years ago was a typo. It should be 14 years ago. "Designated" is the ACLU's word. The FBI did not use that word, which sounds like they are on some list of "designated organizations", which they are not. What we have is an allegation not proven by the FBI, brought into question by the Michigan Police, and the FBI has taken no further action and made no further comment for 14 years. But you wouldn't get that impression from the statement that I removed. That is why it is misleading.

The SLPC description of TWP is from October 2015, not 14 years ago, so it is current. Ground Zero | t 23:48, 29 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

And you still have not addressed my second point. Your claim that the FBI "has made no further comment for 14 years" needs a citation. How does this reworked paragraph sound to you? "In January 2002, officials from the FBI and Secret Service attended a symposium dedicated to issue of domestic terrorism. BAMN, along with other groups 'thought to be involved in terrorist activities,' were discussed during the meeting. The Michigan State Police, which was also in attendance, noted that BAMN's past demonstrations 'have been peaceful.'" --50.46.239.77 (talk) 23:59, 29 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I am assuming that the FBI had made no further comment on BAMN because no one has provided one. If the FBI had, we wouldn't be spending so much time fussing over this claim from 14 years ago. What you wrote above is factually correct, but way too detailed for this article. A vague, unsubstantiated, out-of-date claim about one of the organizations doesn't belong in this article. It could be in the BAMN article, of course, and in fact something very much like it is because I put there. Ground Zero | t 00:11, 30 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I'm going to go with bold italicized text now, since italics alone didn't do it: Also explain how having a third-party opinion of the TWP by the Southern Poverty Law Center, but no third-party opinion of BAMN, contributes to the article's balance and neutrality. Also, the article has a section called "Participants," and a three- or four-sentence third-party description of one of the participant's history is hardly "way too detailed." Furthermore, we're not in the business of substantiating the FBI's allegation; we only report what the FBI alleged about the group. You're an administrator, so I'm shocked that you do not understand this. --50.46.239.77 (talk) 00:18, 30 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Look, we report relevant information. Balance does not require us to use outdated information on one organisation just because we have recent information on another. Find something recent on BAMN if you think it is needed. What the FBI thought may have happened 14 years ago isn't enough. The articles is about something that happened this week. This is a current event, not history. Ground Zero | t 11:04, 30 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I'm going to take your continued refusal to answer my second point as a tacit admission that balance has not been achieved. In the past, you seemed to understand how Wikipedia works when the discussion focused on the TWP, but your behavior when the discussion concerns BAMN betrays your bias. I'm asking you to put your money where your mouth is and start acting like an administrator. If you find that difficult, then please extricate yourself from this dispute and go edit elsewhere. Instead of being constructive, you fling everything at the wall to see what sticks. The only thing outdated about the FBI's report is the claim the Michigan State Police made about BAMN being "peaceful." BAMN is a self-described militant organization that initiated the violence last Sunday and has been implicated in violence at many other protests. In any case, while the article may be about a recent event, the "Participants" section is intended to provide readers context, and context is achieved by discussing the participants' history and goals. The TWP was only established in January 2016; BAMN has a much longer history. You admitted that my reworked paragraph is "factually correct," but objected that it is "way too detailed." When challenged on this point, you failed to defend your objection. I have since added that reworked paragraph into the article. If you remove my edit without explanation, my attempt at dialogue will have failed and I will initiate the arbitration process.--50.46.239.77 (talk) 16:16, 30 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This issue is not whether BSMN is violent or not. The events in Sacranentob sure that they are. The issue if whether the "terrorist" label belong in the Sacramento article. I have put it in the BAMN article. It does not belong here because of was so qualified, it is so old, and there has been nothing further on it. The FBI statement is 24 years old. Not just the Michigan Police statement. You have not been able to provide anything recent to justify the terrorist label. I have explained my position. You don't have to agree with me, but accusing me of not defending my position is ridiculous. And making threats is not a constructive way of dealing with issues in Wikipedia. Especially for an unregistered editor. Ground Zero | t 16:36, 30 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Humaninstitut for deletion

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Great work on Communist Party of Canada. Me-123567-Me (talk) 16:47, 15 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Re:ICI

In response to my mistake moves on the French-language Radio-Canada TV networks, I saw that someone moved Ici ARTV to ICI Artv and made the mistake to assume that was correct without second guessing. I should have posted this on its respective talk page, rather than moving the rest of the ICI articles to match ARTV. I apologize for mistake and this case will greater improve me as a contributor. Rewind Wrestling (talk) 18:52, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, thanks. I had not seen the move at Ici ARTV. I think it would be best for you to move the other articles back now. I will post messages on the talk pages to help avoid these mistakes being made again. Regards, Ground Zero | t 19:35, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Andscacs

I have explained my edit at length at Talk:Andscacs. If you want to discuss this change, I am happy to do so. If you are just going to revert and edit war to get your way, you will be violating WP:3RR and can be blocked from editing. See WP:AVOIDEDITWAR. IQ125 (talk) 14:07, 5 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Well, that's pretty childish. I posted this message on your talk page, you have deleted it and posted it on my talk page with your signature. As the article's talk page shows, I have explained my edit on the talk page; you have not. Ground Zero | t 14:20, 5 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

A cup of coffee for you!

Thanks for things including (but not limited to) catching the redundancy of my writing on interactive storytelling and being humorous about it. ;) Rroberie (talk) 03:42, 7 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the coffee! Unfortunately, not everyone saw the humour. One editor on another article found that comment to be insulting, so I had to apologize. I'm glad you took it in next the spirit in which it was intended. Best regards, Ground Zero | t 15:08, 7 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Trump, Merriam-Webster

First, Hi!

I'm a huge admirer of Wikipedia, and wish I had the time to learn the ropes and contribute. Instead, I send a small amount of money and the occasional bit of intervention.

Two notes today: I quite approve of your intervention to prevent self-interested dolts adding their causes to the page on the Toronto Trump Hotel and Tower. On the other hand, the article is now seriously out of date. The tower is in receivership, badly managed, and the subject of multi-directional litigation. I hope somebody will update the article appropriately.

Then I came to your page and found you quoting Merriam-Webster as an authority. I'm afraid this is something that needs extreme care. If you want an American Dictionary, the best idea is always American Heritage. Warning: I am a former editor on American Heritage magazines, same company but two floors below, and used to be friends with and an admirer of a number of their staff.

Merriam-Webster is the descendant of formerly great companies, Merriam and Webster, but they spent a disastrous generation in thrall to the American academic fad for demotic language. They allowed themselves to mix up reporting on what people said and wrote with stating the commonly understood meanings of words.

From about 2010 onwards they came to the conclusion that this had been a mistake, and they have repaired their ways. New material from Merriam-Webster is at least making the attempt to report accurately the commonly accepted meanings of words, and no longer giving equal weight to widely used solecisms. This will eventually return them to respectability. It will not undo the damage of the last generation's errors.

Very best wishes in your important work,

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David Lloyd-Jones (talk) 10:31, 7 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks first your feedback, DLJ. To be honest, M-W was the first that came up when I googled. I am interested to learn that there is such keen rivalry in next the dictionary world, and am glad to know that the people who compile them are so passionate about the language. Best regards, Ground Zero | t 15:08, 7 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Corporate stylings

I actually share your disdain for corporate stylings, and have removed many ™ symbols from articles. The exclamation mark in "Yahoo!" particularly irks me. I just didn't feel it applied in this case, and obviously it's somewhat subjective what the common name is. Thanks for being a reasonable person, we need more like you. Kendall-K1 (talk) 14:51, 14 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You put forward a better argument than mine, so fair is fair. Regards, Ground Zero | t 14:53, 14 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Point taken! Chrisdoyleorwell (talk) 21:18, 17 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Quite alright. I'm glad you agree. Ground Zero | t

Armond Rizzo

Hello. I noticed that you recently created Armond Rizzo, a biography of a living person that is completely unsourced. The subject also appears to fail the relevant notability guideline. Rather than tagging for deletion, I trust that you, an experienced editor, will know how to fix this. Please add some reliable sources that support the content. Thanks in advance. • Gene93k (talk) 02:24, 20 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I understand. This started out as a translation from the Spanish Wikipedia, but when I tried to save it I was warned that the sources were proscribed from English Wikipedia. I have tried to find sources, and will try again, but it will probably end up being deleted. Ground Zero | t 17:06, 20 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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What you say is wrong

What you say is wrong. The correct name is Czechia. The article should be moved to Czechia. Eleni Kaltsi (talk) 15:08, 30 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I have explained what Wikipedia policy is and how it applies, and how you can propose changes if you want to. But Wikipedia works on consensus. It isn't called Elenikaltsipedia, so you don't get to have your own way here. On your own webpage you can call it what you want. For the record, I hope that Czechia becomes commonly used in English as I prefer that to Czech Republic. When it does, I will support changing the Wikipedia usage. Ground Zero | t 15:20, 30 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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the ip has not been warned - but it is close to third re-post of non encyclopediac material JarrahTree 12:11, 15 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Consumers Distributing

Ha!. I considered making that same edit but I thought I'd give him a chance to find a usable ref first. He's already at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Conhui so it's not going to make much difference. I'm not even sure if the short-lived 2013 reincarnation even belong sin this article. I think it's more of a case of a former employee taking over a defunct name. Anyways, glad to have another set of eyes on it. Meters (talk) 20:07, 4 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It looked to me like he had added some text and added the "CN" tag to it himself, as if to say, "someone else should look this up for me". I could be wrong. But it looks like a conflict of interest situation (user name: Cdist07), so I think a firm hand is needed here. I'll keep my eyes on it too. Ground Zero | t 20:20, 4 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
To be fair, one of the CNs had been there from 2012, and the other one I jsut added because I had removed the YouTube video he was trying to use as a ref. I've raised WP:YOUTUBE on the article's talkpage. Meters (talk) 20:36, 4 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Why, thank-you! Ground Zero | t 19:34, 12 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Changing Czech Republic to Czechia.

Per this edit, what should the reaction be? I reverted it first, then undid my edit due to my unsure thinking. The links don't need to be changed, they were fine as is, and this is a controversial edit, I feel, per the current consensus on changing Czech Republic to Czechia, being that it should be automatically reverted. This user is aware of this, and has been involved in discussuons on this, yet did not use an edit summary, and marked the edit as minor. I'm confused on what the thinking is on edits like these and how to proceed. - R9tgokunks ⭕ 04:44, 29 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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That was 14 years ago tomorrow. I have learned a few thinks about editing in Wikipedia since then. Ground Zero | t 03:36, 30 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Sources on Ontario election articles?

Hey, I was looking through some unreferenced articles and it looks like you've created many of them, such as 1911 Ontario general election, 1919 Ontario general election, etc (as Kevintoronto). Do you have any idea where you got this data from, when you created the articles? I've been unable to find good sources on the subject. Elliot321 (talk | contribs) 05:20, 3 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Elliot321 That was 15 years ago now, when Wikipedia was much less fussy about requiring references to reliable sources, so unfortunately I did not include the source. I expect that the information came from Elections Ontario, but they have reconfigured their website, so the information may no longer be available in the same format. Ground Zero | t 06:02, 3 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! I've managed to find the info on that site and added the relevant refs to the articles. Nice to see so many {{unreferenced}} tags disappear after so long, eh? Elliot321 (talk | contribs) 06:27, 3 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Good work! And happy new year. Ground Zero | t 06:29, 3 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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