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WikiCup 2017 September newsletter

Round 4 of the WikiCup has ended and we move forward into the final round. In round 4, a total of 12 FAs, 3 FLs, 44 GAs, 3 FLs, 79 DYKs, 1 ITN and 42 GARs was achieved, with no FPs or FTs this time. Congratulations to Peacemaker67 on the Royal Yugoslav Navy Good Topic of 36 items, and the 12 featured articles achieved by Cas Liber (5), Vanamonde93 (3), Peacemaker67 (2), Adityavagarwal (1) and 12george1 (1). With a FA scoring 200 points, and bonus points available on top of this, FAs are likely to feature heavily in the final round. Meanwhile Yellow Evan, a typhoon specialist, was contributing 12 DYKs and 10 GAs, while Adityavagarwal and Freikorp topped the GAR list with 8 reviews each. As we enter the final round, we are down to eight contestants, and we would like to thank those of you who have been eliminated for the useful contributions you have made to the Cup and Wikipedia. The lowest score needed to reach round 5 was 305, and I think we can expect a highly competitive final round.

Remember that any content promoted after the end of round 4 but before the start of round 5 can be claimed in round 5. Remember too that you must claim your points within 10 days of "earning" them. If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. It would be helpful if this list could be cleared of any items no longer relevant. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to reduce the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck, and let the best man (or woman) win! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Godot13, Sturmvogel 66 and Cwmhiraeth 06:26, 1 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

September 2017: National Eligibility and Entrance Test

I would like to bring to your notice that the submitted information is not a promotion and I am in no way affiliated to any party in that webpage. The intention here is to share an information that a private party is also involved in collaboration with a govt agency to organise the entrance exams. This information was ruled out from the official webpage of the Govt websites. Hence I intend to make it open to public through Wikipedia, as I believe this portal is unbiased.

if you think the given informations and citations are inappropriate, citations can be removed. But the information is TRUE.

Help with Am Buidheann Dubh page.

Can you help with additions, and updating, please ? Johnny Glasgow (talk) 03:11, 24 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

SCORM page

Sorry, don't know where I should be leaving my reply, so I'm putting it here. My entry on SCORM page is not different than other entries. Seems completely unfair. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.195.17.118 (talk) 15:25, 26 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You are completely disregarding what I have to say and are just removing my entries. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.195.17.118 (talk) 16:00, 26 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You are adding external links to promote your company, they will be removed as per WP:SPAM. Drchriswilliams (talk) 16:42, 26 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

There are links to other company sites. Why are mine being removed?50.195.17.118 (talk) 16:55, 26 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Apologies

I didn't mean to undo your edits on Lisa Kemmerer; I must've somehow had an old version open when I made the fix I was doing. You have my apology. --Nat Gertler (talk) 02:05, 24 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Nat Gertler: That's ok, I couldn't figure out what had happened there. I have caused similar slips in the past myself. Thanks for clearing things up. Drchriswilliams (talk) 11:07, 24 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

User Peerreviewed

I removed the remaining edits from Peerreviewed (talk · contribs). They look like spam to me as well. I assume you didn't remove them all because you got sidetracked. If you think the spammed reference might be suitable to remain somewhere, let me know. --Ronz (talk) 16:40, 26 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Ronz: Yes, thanks for cleaning up the remaining articles and for checking I hadn't seen some value in the spammed journal paper. The articles I had left until last had a more narrow focus. Then my attention had turned to other things. Drchriswilliams (talk) 22:04, 26 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Glad to help. It looks like part of a PhD thesis, so don't expect it should be used anywhere. --Ronz (talk) 00:43, 27 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

ITN recognition for Fats Domino

On 26 October 2017, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Fats Domino, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Alex Shih (talk) 18:43, 26 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

WikiCup 2017 November newsletter: Final results

The final round of the 2017 WikiCup is over. Congratulations to the 2017 WikiCup top three finalists:

In addition to recognizing the achievements of the top finishers and everyone who worked hard to make it to the final round, we also want to recognize those participants who were most productive in each of the WikiCup scoring categories:

  • Featured Article – Cas Liber (actually a two-way tie with themselves for an astonishing five FAs in R2 and R4).
  • Good Article – Adityavagarwal had 14 GAs promoted in R5.
  • Featured List – Canada Bloom6132 (submissions) and Japan 1989 (submissions) both produced 2 FLs in R2
  • Featured Pictures – Cascadia SounderBruce (submissions) improved an image to FP status in R5, the only FP this year.
  • Featured Topic – Denmark MPJ-DK (submissions) has the only FT of the Cup in R3.
  • Good Topic – Four different editors created a GT in R2, R3 and R4.
  • Did You Know – Adityavagarwal had 22 DYKs on the main page in R5.
  • In The News – India MBlaze Lightning (submissions) had 14 ITN on the main page in R2.
  • Good Article Review – India Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (submissions) completed 31 GARs in R1.

Over the course of the 2017 WikiCup the following content was added or improved on Wikipedia: 51 Featured Articles, 292 Good Articles, 18 Featured Lists, 1 Featured Picture, 1 Featured Topics, 4 Good Topics, around 400 Did You Knows, 75 In The News, and 442 Good Article Reviews. Thank you to all the competitors for your hard work and what you have done to improve Wikipedia.

Regarding the prize vouchers - @Adityavagarwal, Vanamonde93, Casliber, Bloom6132, 1989, and SounderBruce: please send Godot13 (talk · contribs · email) an email from the email address to which you would like your Amazon voucher sent. Please include your preference of global Amazon marketplace as well. We hope to have the electronic gift cards processed and sent within a week.

We will open up a discussion for comments on process and scoring in a few days. The 2018 WikiCup is just around the corner! Many thanks from all the judges. If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Sturmvogel 66 (talk · contribs · email), Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs · email), and Godot13 (talk · contribs · email) MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 11:41, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. This month The Women in Red World Contest is being held to try to produce new articles for as many countries worldwide and occupations as possible. There is over £3000 in prizes to win, including Amazon vouchers and paid subscriptions. Wikimedia UK is putting up £250 specifically for editors who produce the most quality new women bios for British women, with special consideration given to missing notable biographies from the Oxford Dictionary of Biography and Welsh Dictionary of Biography. If you're not interested in prize money yourself but are willing to participate independently this is also fine, but please add any articles created to the bottom of the main contest page even if not competing. Your participation in the contest and contributing articles on British women from your area or wherever would we much appreciated. Thanks.

WikiCup 2018

So the 2017 WikiCup has come to an end. Congratulations to the winner, to the other finalists and to all those who took part. 177 contestants signed up, more than usual, but not all of them submitted entries in the first round. Were editors attracted by the cash prizes offered for the first time this year, or were these irrelevant? Do the rules and scoring need changing for the 2018 WikiCup? If you have a view on these or other matters, why not join in the WikiCup discussion about next year's contest? Sturmvogel 66 (talk · contribs · email), Godot13 (talk · contribs · email) and Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs · email). MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:59, 17 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. We're into the last five days of the Women in Red World Contest. There's a new bonus prize of $200 worth of books of your choice to win for creating the most new women biographies between 0:00 on the 26th and 23:59 on 30th November. If you've been contributing to the contest, thank you for your support, we've produced over 2000 articles. If you haven't contributed yet, we would appreciate you taking the time to add entries to our articles achievements list by the end of the month. Thank you, and if participating, good luck with the finale!

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Hello, Drchriswilliams. Voting in the 2017 Arbitration Committee elections is now open until 23.59 on Sunday, 10 December. All users who registered an account before Saturday, 28 October 2017, made at least 150 mainspace edits before Wednesday, 1 November 2017 and are not currently blocked are eligible to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.

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Harold Shipman / Gavin & Stacey

Hello Drchriswilliams. You recently removed one of my edits on the Harold Shipman article, seemingly on the basis that I referenced a tabloid source. Please note that tabloid sources are perfectly fine to use on Wikipedia, especially for such a minor/trivial point. For more information, please see WP:PUS. For that reason, I have reverted your revert. Happy to discuss it further with you if you have any concerns. Thank you and kind regards LoveEverybodyUnconditionally (talk) 23:56, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello again Drchriswilliams. It is disappointing that you seem to have no interest or desire to discuss issues. Wikipedia is not your personal project, it is an encyclopaedia ruled by consensus. As I mentioned before, please refer to WP:PUS - tabloid sources are allowed on Wikipedia (whether you agree or not). Sourced trivia is also permitted on Wikipedia as far as I am aware. If I am mistaken, please point me to the correct guidance. Thanks again for your co-operation and understanding. LoveEverybodyUnconditionally (talk) 06:51, 22 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Hello again Drchriswilliams. There is absolutely no prohibition on using the Daily Mail as a source on Wikipedia. There are limitations, and things to be watchful of, when using it as a source, but there is absolutely not a complete ban on using the Daily Mail as a source. I understand that you may frown upon it, but frankly, your personal opinions are irrelevant. We go by consensus and established Wikipedia policies/guidance. I also must tell you that I am thoroughly unimpressed with your conduct. I have shown willingness to discuss the issue with you in an attempt to reach agreement or better understand your position, but you have decided just to revert my edits instead with zero discussion. Perhaps you could work on this in the future. Anyway, I consider the matter closed. Thanks again for your understanding and have a great day :) LoveEverybodyUnconditionally (talk) 07:26, 22 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@LoveEverybodyUnconditionally: Were you looking to discuss content? I pointed out in my edit summaries that your edits appeared to repeatedly insert poor quality material which did not have a reliable source to support it. I have added a neutral description of the associated trivia to these pages. Drchriswilliams (talk) 07:34, 22 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Hello. Please have more consideration for other users here in the future and be less obtuse. Thank you LoveEverybodyUnconditionally (talk) 08:01, 22 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Hello again Drchriswilliams. I just wanted to let you know that there is a reference to the Daily Mail within the Harold Shipman article that you must have missed. I have already alerted NASA and the Pentagon as a precaution. Should I find anymore references to the Daily Mail on Wikipedia, I will be sure to let you know here immediately. Peace be upon you. LoveEverybodyUnconditionally (talk) 13:54, 22 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Hello again Drchriswilliams. I have caught another Wikipedia member editing your article about Harold Shipman. His name is Martinevans123. I have a contact at the FBI who assures me they are "closing the net on this guy". Please switch your radio to frequency 7 so that you may receive further updates from the RSPCA as and when they become available. I have also instructed Theresa May to issue a joint statement on this issue with President Trump, words along the lines of "Our two great nations will lead the fight against people editing Wikipedia articles that belong to Drchriswilliams". Stay strong, old boy. LoveEverybodyUnconditionally (talk) 15:34, 31 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Information

Hello. As you seem to edit my page a lot, would you like to get in touch so I can give you firsthand information? Gail GailERoss (talk) 18:21, 14 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Automatic deletion

I have permission to use the public access ISBT resources to assist in populating the wikipedia. I had done quite a lot of paraphrasing of this work but want to know how I can pass the copyright issue when these are freely accessible sources that I have been given permission to write and in some cases written myselfTransfusionDoctor (talk) 13:38, 16 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I replied on your talk page. Drchriswilliams (talk) 14:09, 16 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for James Robson (doctor)

On 27 January 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article James Robson (doctor), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that James Robson has been to six Rugby World Cups with the Scotland team and on six British and Irish Lions tours? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/James Robson (doctor). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, James Robson (doctor)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Vanamonde (talk) 12:12, 27 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Precious anniversary

A year ago ...
health and well-being
in Scotland
... you were recipient
no. 1567 of Precious,
a prize of QAI!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:51, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Two years now! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:01, 1 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

... and three --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:47, 1 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Donna Kennedy

On 4 February 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Donna Kennedy, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Donna Kennedy became the world's most-capped women's rugby player in 2004, and by 2007 was also the most-capped player of any gender in Scotland, retiring in 2010 with 115 caps? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Donna Kennedy. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Donna Kennedy), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The Back-Up Trust

The Back-up Trust — Preceding unsigned comment added by MarkBackUp (talkcontribs) 16:58, 15 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I've been trying to update The Back-Up Trust web page. I've got secondary sources for several of my additions, but you won't allow them. Here are my suggestions: The charity's working name is Back Up, and that is the name we use in the media, on our website and with the people we support. We never use the name 'The Back-Up Trust' - only in small print and for legal purposes.

We've also changed the services we offer. We don't do holidays or adventure trips, we provide the following services:

Wheelchair Skills Training: https://www.backuptrust.org.uk/support-for-you/wheelchair-skills | Citation: https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2011/may/03/back-up-trust-wheelchair-skills Mentoring: https://www.backuptrust.org.uk/support-for-you/mentoring | Citation: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/julie-hill/realising-there-is-life-a_b_16308354.html Life skills and activity courses: https://www.backuptrust.org.uk/support-for-you/life-changing-courses Support returning to work: https://www.backuptrust.org.uk/support-for-you/back-up-to-work Support throughout your education: https://www.backuptrust.org.uk/support-for-you/children-young-people/school-life

I can find more citations to prove the accuracy of the charity's services if needs be.

I have previously updated the article using sources that appear neutral. I note that you have not suggested any further links that are independent of your organisation. Drchriswilliams (talk) 23:11, 15 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Striking On-Point Verified Source

Can you please clarify what you are specifically objecting to? Is it the external link (which seems to me within the stated Wikipedia policy for external links), or is it also the - deleted - remainder of the text, which, as I already stated in my undo explanation, refers to an eminently relevant, professional contribution to the subject? If you object to the external link, what other form and substance reference to the source material do you find acceptable? Would a footnote be in order? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moyer55 (talkcontribs) 18:58, 27 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The material you added appears purely promotional. See WP:NOTADVERTISING. Drchriswilliams (talk) 19:16, 27 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

With all due respect, Chris, the appearance you detect is not supported by the legitimate philosophical substance of the source and its contributory value. Even if this philosopher and his work should be unknown to you, reading his work even in excerpts should convince you that he engages in a legitimate in-depth discussion of the subject and advances it. Advancement that philosophy desperately needs. Let's scrap all the links if you like to avoid the impression of promotion, but the article would lack completeness without a summary of this work. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moyer55 (talkcontribs) 23:18, 27 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

WikiCup 2018 March newsletter

And so ends the first round of the competition, with 4 points required to qualify for round 2. With 53 contestants qualifying, the groups for round 2 are slightly smaller than usual, with the two leaders from each group due to qualify for round 3 as well as the top sixteen remaining users.

Our top scorers in round 1 were:

  • United States Aoba47 led the field with a featured article, 8 good articles and 42 GARs, giving a total of 666 points.
  • Germany FrB.TG , a WikiCup newcomer, came next with 600 points, gained from a featured article and masses of bonus points.
  • India Ssven2, another WikiCup newcomer, was in third place with 403 points, garnered from a featured article, a featured list, a good article and twelve GARs.
  • United States Ceranthor, India Numerounovedant, Minnesota Carbrera, Netherlands Farang Rak Tham and Romania Cartoon network freak all had over 200 points, but like all the other contestants, now have to start again from scratch. A good achievement was the 193 GARs performed by WikiCup contestants, comparing very favourably with the 54 GAs they achieved.

Remember that any content promoted after the end of round 1 but before the start of round 2 can be claimed in round 2. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews.

If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to help keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Godot13 (talk), Sturmvogel 66 (talk), Cwmhiraeth (talk) and Vanamonde (talk) 15:27, 2 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Unfair delete of addition

Dear Dr Chris Thank you for drawing my attention to the rules but I'm kind of lost. Shouldn't the encyclopedia provide all information on the mentioned topic, especially when the latest info was in 2015. Doesn't the development of the topic require an update? Please guide me to a better solution than just deleting the update. Best of regards Souhad Lawand MD Ph.D Ophthalmologist Lawand Teleophthalmology (talk) 08:02, 10 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I have replied on your talk page. Drchriswilliams (talk) 08:11, 10 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Grace Cadell

Dear Chris - Could you please look over this recently expanded article. Many thanks. Papamac (talk) 10:49, 13 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for following up on those. Huatah hasn't edited since receiving any warnings, so I'm not blocking now, but feel free to ping me if they come back. 15:41, 14 March 2018 (UTC) ~ Amory (utc) 15:42, 14 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

User:NARUTO FAN

Hi I took information from one of my books,so if I cause something wrong plz forgive me! NARUTO FAN (talk) 07:18, 17 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi sorry about that I am a new guy plz correct my mistakes!!! NARUTO FAN (talk) 16:18, 18 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

you are my hero, Dr Chris

your heroic refusal to accept the removal of Scotland's national language from the Wikipedia page for Orkney is truly inspiring. slàinte, mo charaid 80.2.184.162 (talk) 16:15, 5 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Guid on ye

Guid on ye recreating Tom Devine so swiftly. Mutt Lunker (talk) 10:58, 17 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Glasgow Accies rugby

Hi - noticed you changed the page of the Glasgow Academical Rugby Club. The text you deleted has been restored by the Club itself - please do not edit this again as it is factually correct re recent sponsorship and results. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.6.145.255 (talk) 22:39, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

What is your problem with the history of this rugby club? You are now challenging copyright on the undisputed history of the club - and have not responded to the previous text? The club's own historians have verified the facts from the SRU history - it is correct. The recent seasons results are clear for all to verify per SRU - as are all the listed internationalists and SRU presidents — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.16.37.37 (talk) 22:40, 26 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I now see your message on the text page - you seem to see the whole page we have as a copyright breach? Please clarify how this page will be restored - as all the history of the club is in public domain - this is one of the oldest clubs in Scotland and is an SRU founder member. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.16.37.37 (talk) 22:45, 26 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi - can you please now email me (glasgowsteph@hotmail.com) or message here to tell me how our club's page will be restored - whether by removal of links to any book etc. or modifying the history text. I await your response. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.16.37.37 (talk) 23:08, 26 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
There is a major copyright problem with the article on Glasgow Accies. It may take some time to resolve. Drchriswilliams (talk) 22:23, 26 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for being one of Wikipedia's top medical contributors!

please help translate this message into your local language via meta
The 2017 Cure Award
In 2017 you were one of the top ~250 medical editors across any language of Wikipedia. Thank you from Wiki Project Med Foundation for helping bring free, complete, accurate, up-to-date health information to the public. We really appreciate you and the vital work you do! Wiki Project Med Foundation is a user group whose mission is to improve our health content. Consider joining here, there are no associated costs.

Thanks again :-) -- Doc James along with the rest of the team at Wiki Project Med Foundation 02:53, 26 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"What can normally be linked

Wikipedia articles about any organization, person, website, or other entity should link to the subject's official site, if any. An article about a book, a musical score, or some other media should link to a site hosting a legally distributed copy of the work, so long as none of the § Restrictions on linking and § Links normally to be avoided criteria apply. Sites that contain neutral and accurate material that is relevant to an encyclopedic understanding of the subject and cannot be integrated into the Wikipedia article due to copyright issues,[4] amount of detail (such as professional athlete statistics, movie or television credits, interview transcripts, or online textbooks), or other reasons."

As well as the other links that are present. This one is also permitted. Please stop power tripping deleting it. - An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page—whether involving the same or different material—within a 24-hour period. An edit or a series of consecutive edits that undoes other editors' actions—whether in whole or in part—counts as a revert. Violations of the rule often attract blocks of at least 24 hours. Fourth reverts just outside the 24-hour period may also be taken as evidence of edit-warring, especially if repeated or combined with other edit-warring behavior.

WikiCup 2018 May newsletter

The second round of the 2018 WikiCup has now finished. Most contestants who advanced to the next round scored upwards of 100 points, but two with just 10 points managed to scrape through into round 3. Our top scorers in the last round were:

  • Scotland Cas Liber, our winner in 2016, with three featured articles
  • Republic of Texas Iazyges, with nine good articles and lots of bonus points
  • India Yashthepunisher, a first time contestant, with two featured lists
  • Cascadia (independence movement) SounderBruce, a finalist last year, with seventeen good topic articles
  • United States Usernameunique, a first time contestant, with fourteen DYKs
  • San Francisco Muboshgu, a seasoned competitor, with three ITNs and
  • South Carolina Courcelles, another first time contestant, with twenty-seven GARs

So far contestants have achieved twelve featured articles between them and a splendid 124 good articles. Commendably, 326 GARs have been completed during the course of the 2018 WikiCup, so the backlog of articles awaiting GA review has been reduced as a result of contestants' activities. As we enter the third round, remember that any content promoted after the end of round 2 but before the start of round 3 can be claimed in round 3. Remember too that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them. When doing GARs, please make sure that you check that all the GA criteria are fully met; most of the GARs are fine, but a few have been a bit skimpy.

If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article nominations, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed (remember to remove your listing when no longer required). Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Godot13 (talk), Sturmvogel 66 (talk), Vanamonde (talk) and Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:10, 1 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Tessa Jowell edit

I have absolutely no idea how those other changes (removal of refs and restoration of content I'd previously removed) occurred in my last edit - I never even went near that part of the article. Must have been a bug. My pc has been acting up this morning. Thanks for the corrections. PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 07:49, 13 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@PaleCloudedWhite: No worries, this sort of thing can occur during simultaneous editing. I figured that it hadn't been intentional. Drchriswilliams (talk) 08:00, 13 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page watcher) My theory is that you were viewing this version when you clicked the edit tab. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 08:07, 13 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Redrose64: Thanks for the explanation. Drchriswilliams (talk) 08:48, 13 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Redrose64: Possibly, though I can't recall seeing the 'you are editing an old version' template at the top of the page. There's something not right with how my pc loads pages this morning - everything takes a million years and 'server not available' pops up with irritating regularity. I suspect that might have something to do with it. PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 09:22, 13 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Additional Support Needs Tribunals for Scotland is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Additional Support Needs Tribunals for Scotland until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamacfarlane (talkcontribs) 01:42, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

WikiCup 2018 July newsletter

The third round of the 2018 WikiCup has now come to an end. The 16 users who made it to the fourth round had at least 227 points. Our top scorers in round 3 were:

  • South Carolina Courcelles, a first time contestant, with 1756 points, a tally built largely on 27 GAs related to the Olympics
  • Scotland Cas Liber, our winner in 2016, with two featured articles and three GAs on natural history and astronomy topics
  • Cascadia (independence movement) SounderBruce, a finalist last year, with a variety of submissions related to transport in the state of Washington

Contestants managed 7 featured articles, 4 featured lists, 120 good articles, 1 good topic, 124 DYK entries, 15 ITN entries, and 132 good article reviews. Over the course of the competition, contestants have completed 458 GA reviews, in comparison to 244 good articles submitted for review and promoted. As we enter the fourth round, remember that any content promoted after the end of round 3 but before the start of round 4 can be claimed in round 4. Please also remember that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them. When doing GARs, please make sure that you check that all the GA criteria are fully met. Please also remember that all submissions must meet core Wikipedia policies, regardless of the review process; several submissions, particularly in abstruse or technical areas, have needed additional work to make them completely verifiable.

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WikiCup 2018 September newsletter

The fourth round of the 2018 WikiCup has now come to an end. The eight users who made it to the final round had to score a minimum of 422 points to qualify, with the top score in the round being 4869 points. The leaders in round 4 were:

  • South Carolina Courcelles scored a magnificent 4869 points, with 92 good articles on Olympics-related themes. Courcelles' bonus points alone exceeded the total score of any of the other contestants!
  • Hel, Poland Kees08 was second with 1155 points, including a high-scoring featured article for Neil Armstrong, two good topics and some Olympics-related good articles.
  • Scotland Cas Liber, with 1066 points, was in third place this round, with two featured articles and a good article, all on natural history topics.
  • Other contestants who qualified for the final round were Marshall Islands Nova Crystallis, Republic of Texas Iazyges, Cascadia (independence movement) SounderBruce, Wales Kosack and United States Ceranthor.

During round four, 6 featured articles and 164 good articles were promoted by WikiCup contestants, 13 articles were included in good topics and 143 good article reviews were performed. There were also 10 "in the news" contributions on the main page and 53 "did you knows". Congratulations to all who participated! It was a generally high-scoring and productive round and I think we can expect a highly competitive finish to the competition.

Remember that any content promoted after the end of round 4 but before the start of round 5 can be claimed in round 5. Remember too that you must claim your points within 10 days of "earning" them. If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. It would be helpful if this list could be cleared of any items no longer relevant. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck, and let the best editor win! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Godot13, Sturmvogel 66, Vanamonde and Cwmhiraeth. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:31, 1 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

WikiCup 2018 November newsletter

The WikiCup is over for another year! Our Champion this year is South Carolina Courcelles (submissions), who over the course of the competition has amassed 147 GAs, 111 GARs, 9 DYKs, 4 FLs and 1 ITN. Our finalists were as follows:

  1. South Carolina Courcelles (submissions)
  2. Wales Kosack (submissions)
  3. Hel, Poland Kees08 (submissions)
  4. SounderBruce (submissions)
  5. Scotland Cas Liber (submissions)
  6. Marshall Islands Nova Crystallis (submissions)
  7. Republic of Texas Iazyges (submissions)
  8. United States Ceranthor (submissions)


All those who reached the final win awards, and awards will also be going to the following participants:

Awards will be handed out in the coming weeks. Please be patient!

Congratulations to everyone who participated in this year's WikiCup, whether you made it to the final rounds or not, and particular congratulations to the newcomers to the WikiCup who have achieved much this year. Thanks to all who have taken part and helped out with the competition.

Next year's competition begins on 1 January. You are invited to sign up to participate; it is open to all Wikipedians, new and old. The WikiCup judges will be back in touch over the coming months, and we hope to see you all in the 2019 competition. Until then, it only remains to once again congratulate our worthy winners, and thank all participants for their involvement! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Sturmvogel 66 (talk · contribs · email), Godot13 (talk · contribs · email), Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs · email) and Vanamonde93 (talk · contribs · email).

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Language thought - "spam" versus "promotional"

Hey, appreciated your revert here - but just a small suggestion to consider using less inflammatory words than "spam" - "promotional" communicates the same thing with less negative baggage. And I believe that people will be more receptive to such feedback. II | (t - c) 18:07, 2 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

British Association for Immediate Care

I am the chairman of BASICS and had previously edited the page as BASICS_HQ. The information on the page as you have rolled it back to is factually incorrect and misleading in many areas. The page either needs tolling back to my evidenced revisions or should be deleted. Please advise. Thank you AEK1961 (talk) 18:39, 31 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to the 2019 WikiCup!

Hello and Happy New Year!

Welcome to the 2019 WikiCup, the competition begins today. If you have already joined, your submission page can be found here. If you have not yet signed up, you can add your name here and we will set up your submissions page. One important rule to remember is that only content on which you have completed significant work during 2019, and which you have nominated this year, is eligible for points in the competition, the judges will be checking! Any questions should be directed to one of the judges, or left on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup. Signups will close at the end of January, and the first round will end on 26 February; the 64 highest scorers at that time will make it to round 2. Good luck! The judges for the WikiCup are Sturmvogel 66 (talk · contribs · email), Godot13 (talk · contribs · email), Vanamonde93 (talk · contribs · email) and Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs · email). MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 11:14, 1 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

ITN recognition for Hugh McIlvanney

On 26 January 2019, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Hugh McIlvanney, which you updated and nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:57, 26 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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WikiCup 2019 March newsletter

And so ends the first round of the competition. Everyone with a positive score moves on to Round 2. With 56 contestants qualifying, each group in Round 2 contains seven contestants, with the two leaders from each group due to qualify for Round 3 as well as the top sixteen remaining contestants.

Our top scorers in Round 1 were:

  • United States L293D, a WikiCup newcomer, led the field with ten good articles on submarines for a total of 357 points.
  • Adam Cuerden, a WikiCup veteran, came next with 274 points, mostly from eight featured pictures, restorations of artwork.
  • Denmark MPJ-DK, a wrestling enthusiast, was in third place with 263 points, garnered from a featured list, five good articles, two DYKs and four GARs.
  • United States Usernameunique came next at 243, with a featured article and a good article, both on ancient helmets.
  • Squeamish Ossifrage was in joint fifth place with 224 points, mostly garnered from bringing the 1937 Fox vault fire to featured article status.
  • Ohio Ed! was also on 224, with an amazing number of good article reviews (56 actually).

These contestants, like all the others, now have to start scoring points again from scratch. Between them, contestants completed reviews on 143 good articles, one hundred more than the number of good articles they claimed for, thus making a substantial dent in the review backlog. Well done all!

Remember that any content promoted after the end of Round 1 but before the start of Round 2 can be claimed in Round 2. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews.

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WikiCup 2019 May newsletter

The second round of the 2019 WikiCup has now finished. Contestants needed to scored 32 points to advance into round 3. Our top four scorers in round 2 all scored over 400 points and were:

  • Scotland Cas Liber (1210), our winner in 2016, with two featured articles and three DYKs. He also made good use of the bonus points available, more than doubling his score by choosing appropriate articles to work on.
  • Wales Kosack (750), last year's runner up, with an FA, a GA, two FLs, and five DYKs.
  • Adam Cuerden (480), a WikiCup veteran, with 16 featured pictures, mostly restorations.
  • Kingdom of Prussia Zwerg Nase (461), a seasoned competitor, with a FA, a GA and an ITN item.

Other notable performances were put in by Chicago Barkeep49 with six GAs, United States Ceranthor, England Lee Vilenski, and Saskatchewan Canada Hky, each with seven GARs, and Denmark MPJ-DK with a seven item GT.

So far contestants have achieved nine featured articles between them and a splendid 80 good articles. Commendably, 227 GARs have been completed during the course of the 2019 WikiCup, so the backlog of articles awaiting GA review has been reduced as a result of contestants' activities. The judges are pleased with the thorough GARs that are being performed, and have hardly had to reject any. As we enter the third round, remember that any content promoted after the end of round 2 but before the start of round 3 can be claimed in round 3. Remember too that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them.

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WikiCup 2019 July newsletter

The third round of the 2019 WikiCup has now come to an end. The 16 users who made it to the fourth round needed to score at least 68 points, which is substantially lower than last year's 227 points. Our top scorers in round 3 were:

  • Norfolk Island Cas Liber, our winner in 2016, with 500 points derived mainly from a featured article and two GAs on natural history topics
  • South Carolina Adam Cuerden, with 480 points, a tally built on 16 featured pictures, the result of meticulous restoration work
  • Cascadia (independence movement) SounderBruce, a finalist in the last two years, with 306 points from a variety of submissions, mostly related to sport or the State of Washington
  • United States Usernameunique, with 305 points derived from a featured article and two GAs on archaeology and related topics

Contestants managed 4 (5) featured articles, 4 featured lists, 18 featured pictures, 29 good articles, 50 DYK entries, 9 ITN entries, and 39 good article reviews. As we enter the fourth round, remember that any content promoted after the end of round 3 but before the start of round 4 can be claimed in round 4. Please also remember that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them, and it is imperative to claim them in the correct round; one FA claim had to be rejected because it was incorrectly submitted (claimed in Round 3 when it qualified for Round 2), so be warned! When doing GARs, please make sure that you check that all the GA criteria are fully met.

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WikiCup 2019 September newsletter

The fourth round of the competition has finished in a flurry of last minute activity, with 454 points being required to qualify for the final round. It was a hotly competitive round with two contestants with over 400 points being eliminated, and all but two of the finalists having achieved an FA during the round. Casliber, our 2016 winner, was the highest point-scorer, followed by Enwebb and Lee Vilenski, who are both new to the competition. In fourth place was SounderBruce, a finalist last year. But all those points are swept away as we start afresh for the final round.

Round 4 saw the achievement of 11 featured articles. In addition, Adam Cuerden scored with 18 FPs, Lee Vilenski led the GA score with 8 GAs while Kosack performed 15 GA reviews. There were around 40 DYKs, 40 GARs and 31 GAs overall during round 4. Even though contestants performed more GARs than they achieved GAs, there was still some frustration at the length of time taken to get articles reviewed.

As we start round 5, we say goodbye to the eight competitors who didn't quite make it; thank you for the useful contributions you have made to the Cup and Wikipedia, and we hope you will join us again next year. Remember that any content promoted after the end of round 4 but before the start of round 5 can be claimed in round 5. Remember too that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them (some people have fallen foul of this rule and the points have been removed).

If you are concerned that your nomination, whether it be for a good article, a featured process, or anything else, will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed (remember to remove your listing when no longer required). If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to help keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Godot13, Sturmvogel 66, Vanamonde and Cwmhiraeth MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:44, 1 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

WikiCup 2019 November newsletter

The WikiCup is over for another year! Our Champion this year is Better far to live and die / Under the brave black flag I fly Adam Cuerden (submissions), who over the course of the competition has amassed 91 featured pictures, including 32 in the final round. Our finalists this year were:

  1. Better far to live and die / Under the brave black flag I fly Adam Cuerden (submissions) with 964 points
  2. England Lee Vilenski (submissions) with 899 points
  3. Norfolk Island Casliber (submissions) with 817 points
  4. Wales Kosack (submissions) with 691 points
  5. Washington (state) SounderBruce (submissions) with 388 points
  6. Antarctica Enwebb (submissions) with 146 points
  7. United States Usernameunique (submissions) with 145 points
  8. Indonesia HaEr48 (submissions) with 74 points

All those who reached the final will win awards. The following special awards will be made based on high performance in particular areas of content creation. So that the finalists do not have an undue advantage, these prizes are awarded to the competitor who scored the highest in any particular field in a single round, or in the event of a tie, to the overall leader in this field. Awards will be handed out in the coming weeks. Please be patient!

Congratulations to everyone who participated in this year's WikiCup, whether you made it to the final rounds or not, and particular congratulations to the newcomers to the WikiCup who have achieved much this year. Thanks to all who have taken part and helped out with the competition, not forgetting User:Jarry1250, who runs the scoring bot.

We have opened a scoring discussion on whether the rules and scoring need adjustment. Please have your say. Next year's competition will begin on 1 January. You are invited to sign up to participate; the WikiCup is open to all Wikipedians, both novices and experienced editors, and we hope to see you all in the 2020 competition. Until then, it only remains to once again congratulate our worthy winners, and thank all participants for their involvement! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Godot13, Sturmvogel 66, Vanamonde and Cwmhiraeth 14:18, 2 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Happy New Year, Happy New Decade and Happy New WikiCup! The competition begins today and all article creators, expanders and improvers are welcome to take part. If you have already signed up, your submissions page can be found here. If you have not yet signed up, you can add your name here and the judges will set up your submissions page. We are relaxing the rule that only content on which you have completed significant work during 2020 will count; now to be eligible for points in the competition, you must have completed significant work on the content at some time! Any questions on the rules or on anything else connected to the Cup should be directed to one of the judges, or posted to the WikiCup talk page. Signups will close at the end of January, and the first round will end on 26 February; the 64 highest scorers at that time will move on to round 2. Good luck! The judges for the WikiCup are Sturmvogel 66 (talk · contribs · email), Godot13 (talk · contribs · email), Vanamonde93 (talk · contribs · email) and Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:43, 1 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Drchriswilliams. I've been doing a bit of work on this and it could probably do with some review. See what you think. There's a discussion in talk already going. --The Huhsz (talk) 20:56, 6 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • I noticed your revert there. Could you consider responding at the section I started at Talk:Alasdair Gray? I think we are in agreement about the appropriateness of the material, and I would like to be able to show a solid consensus in talk. Thanks for your consideration. --The Huhsz (talk) 18:34, 12 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

WikiCup 2020 March newsletter

And so ends the first round of the competition. Everyone with a positive score moves on to Round 2, with 57 contestants qualifying. We have abolished the groups this year, so to qualify for Round 3 you will need to finish Round 2 among the top thirty-two contestants.

Our top scorers in Round 1 were:

  • New York (state) Epicgenius, a WikiCup newcomer, led the field with a featured article, five good articles and an assortment of other submissions, specialising on buildings and locations in New York, for a total of 895 points.
  • England Gog the Mild came next with 464 points, from a featured article, two good articles and a number of reviews, the main theme being naval warfare.
  • United States Raymie was in third place with 419 points, garnered from one good article and an impressive 34 DYKs on radio and TV stations in the United States.
  • Somerset Harrias came next at 414, with a featured article and three good articles, an English civil war battle specialist.
  • Pirate flag CaptainEek was in fifth place with 405 points, mostly garnered from bringing Cactus wren to featured article status.
  • The top ten contestants at the end of Round 1 all scored over 200 points; they also included United States L293D, Venezuela Kingsif, Antarctica Enwebb, England Lee Vilenski and Nepal CAPTAIN MEDUSA. Seven of the top ten contestants in Round 1 are new to the WikiCup.

These contestants, like all the others, now have to start scoring points again from scratch. In Round 1 there were four featured articles, one featured list and two featured pictures, as well as around two hundred DYKs and twenty-seven ITNs. Between them, contestants completed 127 good article reviews, nearly a hundred more than the 43 good articles they claimed for, thus making a substantial dent in the review backlog. Contestants also claimed for 40 featured article / featured list reviews, and most even remembered to mention their WikiCup participation in their reviews (a requirement).

Remember that any content promoted after the end of Round 1 but before the start of Round 2 can be claimed in Round 2. Some contestants made claims before the new submissions pages were set up, and they will need to resubmit them. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews.

If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Godot13 (talk), Sturmvogel 66 (talk), Vanamonde (talk) and Cwmhiraeth (talk). MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:46, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

WikiCup newsletter correction

There was an error in the WikiCup 2020 March newsletter; United States L293D should not have been included in the list of top ten scorers in Round 1 (they led the list last year), instead, United States Dunkleosteus77 should have been included, having garnered 334 points from five good articles on animals, living or extinct, and various reviews. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 09:30, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Pipe band (and bagpipe) notability

Hi, thought you might be interested in helping work out a policy for notability in piping at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Bagpipes#Notability_guidelines? It seems that there can be quite different understandings of what constitutes notability, especially as a lot of piping coverage is well outside of mainstream media. There are quite a few articles that exist that I suspect are not notable - User:Ostrichyearning3/nn - and many many more notable articles that do not exist yet. But would be useful if there was a clear distinction! best, Ostrichyearning3 (talk) 12:02, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A tag has been placed on Category:Health in Lothian requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Liz Read! Talk! 14:35, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

WikiCup 2020 May newsletter

The second round of the 2020 WikiCup has now finished. It was a high-scoring round and contestants needed 75 points to advance to round 3. There were some very impressive efforts in round 2, with the top ten contestants all scoring more than 500 points. A large number of the points came from the 12 featured articles and the 186 good articles achieved in total by contestants, and the 355 good article reviews they performed; the GAN backlog drive and the stay-at-home imperative during the COVID-19 pandemic may have been partially responsible for these impressive figures.

Our top scorers in round 2 were:

  • New York (state) Epicgenius, with 2333 points from one featured article, forty-five good articles, fourteen DYKs and plenty of bonus points
  • England Gog the Mild, with 1784 points from three featured articles, eight good articles, a substantial number of featured article and good article reviews and lots of bonus points
  • Botswana The Rambling Man, with 1262 points from two featured articles, eight good articles and a hundred good article reviews
  • Somerset Harrias, with 1141 points from two featured articles, three featured lists, ten good articles, nine DYKs and a substantial number of featured article and good article reviews
  • England Lee Vilenski with 869 points, Gondor Hog Farm with 801, Venezuela Kingsif with 719, Cascadia (independence movement) SounderBruce with 710, United States Dunkleosteus77 with 608 and Mexico MX with 515.

The rules for featured article reviews have been adjusted; reviews may cover three aspects of the article, content, images and sources, and contestants may receive points for each of these three types of review. Please also remember the requirement to mention the WikiCup when undertaking an FAR for which you intend to claim points. Remember also that DYKs cannot be claimed until they have appeared on the main page. As we enter the third round, any content promoted after the end of round 2 but before the start of round 3 can be claimed now, and anything you forgot to claim in round 2 cannot! Remember too, that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them. When doing GARs, please make sure that you check that all the GA criteria are fully met.

If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article nominations, a featured process, or anything else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed (remember to remove your listing when no longer required). Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Godot13 (talk), Sturmvogel 66 (talk), Vanamonde (talk) and Cwmhiraeth. - MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:44, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

WikiCup 2020 July newsletter

The third round of the 2020 WikiCup has now come to an end. The 16 users who made it into the fourth round each had at least 353 points (compared to 68 in 2019). It was a highly competitive round, and a number of contestants were eliminated who would have moved on in earlier years. Our top scorers in round 3 were:

  • New York (state) Epicgenius, with one featured article, 28 good articles and 17 DYKs, amassing 1836 points
  • Botswana The Rambling Man , with 1672 points gained from four featured articles and seventeen good articles, plus reviews of a large number of FACs and GAs
  • England Gog the Mild, a first time contestant, with 1540 points, a tally built largely on 4 featured articles and related bonus points.

Between them, contestants managed 14 featured articles, 9 featured lists, 3 featured pictures, 152 good articles, 136 DYK entries, 55 ITN entries, 65 featured article candidate reviews and 221 good article reviews. Additionally, Denmark MPJ-DK added 3 items to featured topics and 44 to good topics. Over the course of the competition, contestants have completed 710 good article reviews, in comparison to 387 good articles submitted for review and promoted. These large numbers are probably linked to a GAN backlog drive in April and May, and the changed patterns of editing during the COVID-19 pandemic. As we enter the fourth round, remember that any content promoted after the end of round 3 but before the start of round 4 can be claimed in round 4. Please also remember that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them. When doing GARs, please make sure that you check that all the GA criteria are fully met. Please also remember that all submissions must meet core Wikipedia policies, regardless of the review process.

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Presbyopia etymology lead deletion

You deleted my edit that was not accidental - I googled the condition just to learn its etymology, literal meaning, having just been diagnosed with it. Google shows Wikipedia leads, not more, and it is customary and makes sense to explain terms in encyclopedias right after its first occurrence in the text. The etymology section below was not affected and could contain the history of the term. GregZak (talk) 07:47, 15 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@GregZak: While you have been interested in the etymology of Presbyopia, there is some guidance about what material might be suitable to include in medical articles, and how this can be organised- see WP:MOSMED. Drchriswilliams (talk) 08:03, 15 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]


NHS 24

Hello Drchriswilliams We think we could use some help at NHS 24 with our wikipedia entry, we have some concerns that the information might need updating to better reflect our services to people in need of urgent care. Could you contact us at Corporate.Communications@nhs24.scot.nhs.uk please? NHS24comms (talk) 12:00, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

WikiCup 2020 September newsletter

The fourth round of the competition has finished, with 865 points being required to qualify for the final round, nearly twice as many points as last year. It was a hotly competitive round with two contestants with 598 and 605 points being eliminated, and all but two of the contestants who reached the final round having achieved an FA during the round. The highest scorers were

  • Free Hong Kong Bloom6132, with 1478 points gained mainly from 5 featured lists, 12 DYKs and 63 in the news items;
  • IndonesiaHaEr48 with 1318 points gained mainly from 2 featured articles, 5 good articles and 8 DYKs;
  • England Lee Vilenski with 1201 points mainly gained from 2 featured articles and 10 good articles.

Between them, contestants achieved 14 featured articles, 14 featured lists, 2 featured pictures, 87 good articles, 90 DYK entries, 75 ITN entries, 95 featured article candidate reviews and 81 good article reviews. Congratulations to all who participated! It was a generally high-scoring and productive round and I think we can expect a highly competitive finish to the competition.

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WikiCup 2020 November newsletter

The 2020 WikiCup has come to an end, with the final round going down to the wire. Our new Champion is England Lee Vilenski (submissions), the runner-up last year, who was closely followed by England Gog the Mild (submissions). In the final round, Lee achieved 4 FAs and 30 GAs, mostly on cue sport topics, while Gog achieved 3 FAs and 15 GAs, mostly on important battles and wars, which earned him a high number of bonus points. Botswana The Rambling Man (submissions) was in third place with 4 FAs and 8 GAs on football topics, with New York (state) Epicgenius (submissions) close behind with 19 GAs and 16 DYK's, his interest being the buildings of New York.

The other finalists were Gondor Hog Farm (submissions), Indonesia HaEr48 (submissions), Somerset Harrias (submissions) and Free Hong Kong Bloom6132 (submissions). The final round was very productive, and besides 15 FAs, contestants achieved 75 FAC reviews, 88 GAs and 108 GAN reviews. Altogether, Wikipedia has benefited greatly from the activities of WikiCup competitors all through the contest. Well done everyone!

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ITN recognition for Hamish MacInnes

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Reversion of edit on Charitable organization page

May I ask why you made a seemingly destructive reversion of my changes on the Charitable organization page? Both to the list of regulators which was very incomplete and is now again, and also to remove the link to the Charity regulators page from the See Also section? Although I am aware that a suggestion has been made to convert the list of regulators to prose (personally I cannot see this would add clarity), I do not think reverting addtions to make the current list more comprehensive and indeed accurate (in reflecting the current names of the regulators which were outdated: for instance the Charities Directorate of Canada is simply not called the Canada Revenue Agency anymore) is constructive at all. Without a better explanation than "everted insertion of multiple inline external links" this simply looks unecessarily disruptive. Looking forward to your explanation. --Mlevitt1 (talk) 18:09, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Mlevitt1: On Charitable organization you removed several wikilinks and added a lengthy list of inline external links, which is not consistent with Wikipedia:External links, so I reverted this action. Regulators were already referred to in the lead, so I moved the Charity regulators wikilink to there, rather than the See Also section. Drchriswilliams (talk) 18:20, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Drchriswilliams: Understood, thank you for taking the time to explain. I think I failed to notice this wasn't an external links section!--Mlevitt1 (talk) 09:14, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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ITN recognition for Kay Ullrich

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Hi Chris, thank you for doing a search for some sources for this article! Would you be able to point me towards some that you found? I'm struggling to find much of anything. Thanks. Liam McM 17:40, 17 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

And thank you for your recent improvements to this article! Liam McM 22:21, 17 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Opposition Shadow Cabinet posts

Hello again Dr Williams. Long time no speak. I have to vehemently disagree with you with your recent edits to articles I have edited. WP:INFOBOXPURPOSE discusses the inclusion of key facts rather than elected offices. If it did, then no UK Shadow Cabinet post would have an infobox post either. We do so because these are key facts for both UK and Scottish politicians. Alex (talk) 23:27, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Alex B4: Hi Alex, I get that Infoboxes include key facts, and I'm sympathetic to efforts around this, but the difficulty I currently see is a recent rapid increase in party spokesperson posts being added to the infoboxes of MSPs. In the Scottish Parliament there is not a Shadow Cabinet system in the sense that exists in Westminster. In the Scottish Parliament all political parties are able to appoint spokespersons, for a wide range of portfolios and to call the posts whatever they wish- some have mirrored the Ministerial or Cabinet Secretary briefs and some feature Shadow Cabinet in names of posts, but even so there is not an official Shadow Cabinet in the Scottish Parliament. There has been a convention around including the seat or region a person is elected to, any ministerial position or any party leaderhip position (including depute/deputy or acting). While I think spokesperson information is certainly relevant to appear within the body of MSP articles- and potentially within succession boxes- I don't see that this information fits within the convention for Officeholder Infoboxes for MSPs. Drchriswilliams (talk) 23:48, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It just seems like you're making an argument from WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. These spokespeople are listed in official Holyrood records, be they publications or online databases so it seems reductive to write them off. I am aware, having spent a great deal of time editing the Opposition Shadow Cabinets of the Scottish Parliament page, the differences between the Westminster system and the Holyrood system. While not myself wanting to make an "Other stuff exists" argument, my point related to the Westminster system was that those are also not elected posts but rather appointed posts, while still being key facts so therefore worthy of inclusion and are indeed included in Westminster politician articles. Alex (talk) 23:59, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Alex B4: No, I believe the edits I have made are in keeping with how MSP and Officeholder Infoboxes have been used over the years, and how they have reflected Parliamentary positions. Since the inception of the Scottish Parliament there have been spokesperson posts but these haven't been listed in Infoboxes. Nor have they have ever been included in any of the Wikipedia template examples. Every party in the Scottish Parliament has spokesperson posts and they may appoint people who don't need to be sitting members of the Scottish Parliament. Unlike with Westminster, there are not any official Shadow Cabinet arrangements in the Scottish Parliament, although some of the larger parties have used that language. Drchriswilliams (talk) 00:22, 30 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I am usually quite happy to acknowledge my edits may have to be reverted or modified but the lack of policy justifications gives me strong cause for concern. To be clear, I'm not advocating spokespeople for non-Shadow Cabinet posts but the Scottish Parliament records are quite clear about what offices are and aren't Shadow Cabinet-level. Again having often edited the page on Scottish Shadow Cabinets, I am aware there are no sitting MSP requirements for these posts but in the absence of a second chamber like the House of Lords it is to be expected for leaders to install unelected party spokespeople. I still advocate including Shadow Cabinet-level posts in MSP infoboxes based on Wikipedia policies on such matters. Alex (talk) 00:36, 30 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Alex B4: The Scottish Parliament has long produced lists of party spokespersons. The latest is linked to here: [1] There are not any official Shadow Cabinet posts in the Scottish Parliament. Parties are allowed to choose any name for their spokepersons, and some have chosen to use the terminology of "Shadow Cabinet" in the name the party themselves give to these spokespeople. These aren't offices. Drchriswilliams (talk) 00:54, 30 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed on the point about them being positions or posts rather than offices. In face, I have long argued against describing them as offices in collapsed infobox tab titles, against the opinions of other editors. However, they are still worthy of inclusion as key facts as per WP:INFOBOXPURPOSE. Alex (talk) 03:16, 30 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Alex B4: They are party roles, not Parliamentary or Government roles, they have never previously been included in the Officeholder Infobox for MSPs. There already exists a design for this template and party spokesperson roles are not included in examples listed. The examples I have removed from MSP Infoboxes (but not from the text in the articles) have presented posts in Infoboxes as "Shadow Cabinet" in a location where normally offices of Parliament or Government are listed, and in such a situation risked misrepresenting an opposition party internal appointment as an office. Drchriswilliams (talk) 03:35, 30 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
They are parliamentary roles as well as party roles for Scottish Labour (with the exception of campaigns and party engagement) and the Scottish Conservatives. They dictate the order at which the presiding officer calls the MSPs and the time allotted to MSPs for speeches. This is different for the Scottish Lib Dems and the Scottish Greens but I'm not suggesting we add those, only for Scottish Labour and the Scottish Conservatives. Alex (talk) 03:53, 30 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I should also add that even if the roles were merely party roles (which is not the case as I've explained), there would still be a strong case for including them per WP:RS and WP:INFOBOXPURPOSE. I feel I should clarify that so as not to be accused of goalpost shifting. Alex (talk) 16:46, 30 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I believe I have fulfilled WP:ONUS so would like your speedy input so I know whether consensus has been reached. Otherwise, we're at risk of stonewalling each other with regards to this inclusion of material. Alex (talk) 01:20, 31 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Since it has been two days since your last response and I have further edits to make, I have decided to revert to avoid WP:STONEWALLING. It's not that I would accuse you of doing so deliberately (I'm sure you have other priorities such as myself). It's just that I always err on the side of caution with regards to WP:STONEWALLING and WP:ONUS, due to being burned by past experiences with disruptive editors. But rest assured, having collaborated with you on many Wikipedia projects, I have a lot of respect for you but I can't wait for more than two days to even a resume a discussion where I have already outlined my justifications with policies and rationalised applications. Happy to resume the discussion at a time that suits you. Alex (talk) 08:55, 31 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Alex B4: As you'll see, i was in the process of responding. To summarise things so far as I see this:
  • This is a change from previous convention.
  • It would not affect just the current two largest parties of opposition. For the smaller parties many or all of their MSP are given spokesperson roles.
  • The Scottish Parliament does not have an official opposition, or an official Leader of the opposition. such language is in use, but is informal [2]
  • All parties have spokespersons. on the Parliament website, the spokesperson roles have always been listed as "party roles"- a category distinct and different from parliamentary roles (eg convener) or government roles (eg minister). The appointment to these roles and naming of them is managed by the parties themselves.

Now, when considering how information on spokesperson posts is wikified, this not a natural sequence of replacing someone, so- for example consider for example how attempting to fit spokesperson roles consistently into MSP Infoboxes might work, consider for example Jackie Baillie's previous roles [3]. She has had 1 MSP seat, 2 ministerial roles, 3 convener roles, 1 deputy convener, 2 deputy party spokesperson roles, 1 chief of staff, 10 party spokesperson roles, 1 Acting convener role, 1 deputy leader role There are only 16 offices that can be listed in an Infobox. Even though fitting MSP, ministerial, deputy leader, chif of staff and party spokesperson roles is possible this would become a massive size. Your current plan doesn't appear to include consistency across parties or timespans. Drchriswilliams (talk) 09:01, 31 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I am perfectly consistent with how the Wikipedia policy should be implemented:
  • Shadow Cabinet posts are key facts of a politician's bio.
  • The Holyrood system has a functional Shadow Cabinet system which applies to both parliamentary and party roles for Scottish Labour and the Scottish Conservatives (albeit a. this system is different from the Westminster system, which I have made clear through my edits to the Scottish Shadow Cabinets page, and b. for the Scottish Lib Dems and Scottish Greens, it does not necessarily include parliamentary roles, which again I have made clear in my edits to its page).
  • Ergo, they are necessary to include in Scottish Labour and Scottish Conservative politicians' pages per WP:INFOBOXPURPOSE. Alex (talk) 09:12, 31 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Alex B4: The information that is being conveyed is getting muddled though. The posts are party spokesperson posts, styled as Shadow Cabinet by both Labour and Conservative parties. Because the parties choose the titles, currently both the Conservatives and Labour have opted to use titles for that are not unique. So for example, while Labour have Rhoda Grant in the role of "Shadow Cabinet Secretary for Justice", Liam Kerr is in a role of the same name for the Conservative party. They do not hold the same role, and there is not an official Shadow Cabinet Secretary for Justice position- Grant is "Labour's Shadow Cabinet Secretary for Justice", Kerr is the Conservative Shadow Cabinet Secretary for Justice. As I mentioned above, indicating a preceding person or successor in for these roles can also be misleading. Some of the recent Infobox additions even suggest that Conservative or Labour politicians have succeeded each other, impossible given they are not in the same party- for example on the page for Conservative MSP Murdo Fraser, the recent change to the Infobox says he was preceded by Labour's Jackie Baillie. Drchriswilliams (talk) 10:05, 31 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I'm actually inclined to agree with you on this. If we look at the edit histories of some articles, we'll see that this was an attempt by me to reach consensus with the now-blocked user ciaran.london (AKA his sockpuppet Politicsnerd123). His logic was that once the Scottish Conservatives became the second largest party, theirs was the "Official" Shadow Cabinet. Now I disagreed with him on this and actually it was quite a headache to determine who was succeeding who between the parties following the 2016 election. I'm happy to go back to "Scottish Conservative Spokesperson for..." and "Scottish Labour Spokesperson for..." and correct the successors accordingly. Alex (talk) 10:34, 31 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Alex B4: Thanks Alex. I can see how it would be problematic to try and find consensus with a user that went on to get blocked. If an editor's starting point was to want to convey information about current "Shadow Cabinet" (spokesperson) details for current MSPs, they might not immediately consider the potential problems with implementing this in the Infoboxes. I agree that this the spokesperson role is an important one but I still have doubts about how a consistent approach can be taken to this information going into the Infobox- eg can/should all a MSP's spokesperson posts be listed in In the infobox? There are sitting and former MSPs that have other Officeholder fields to accommodate in their Infobox- for example where they have also previous been MPs. I previously highlighted Jackie Baillie as an example of a current MSP where the Infobox wouldn't be able to hold all of these roles (as dictated by the current technical restrictions of the Officeholder template) as she has held party leadership posts and held ministerial posts when Labour were last a party of Government in the Scottish Parliament. Baillie has held 10 party spokesperson roles to date while an MSP. Some politicians have sat as both MPs and MSPs, with some Labour politicians holding Ministerial positions in both Scottish Parliament and Shadow Cabinet positions in Westminster, for example Cathy Jamieson. I wondered if you would look at those two examples and give some thought as to whether adding party spokesperson to these Infoboxes can achieve a consistent display of information. Drchriswilliams (talk) 12:49, 31 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Will do. Just before I wrap this up however, I would just point out that the above problem is actually a result of the Scottish Parliament website laying out its offices in a way that makes the spokesperson ones look overly bloated. Going back to the Baillie example, her role of Spokesperson for Economy, Jobs and Fair Work (as described by WP:RS) is broken down by the parliamentary website into two roles. Ditto for Public Services and Wealth Creation. And three for Economy, Finance and the Constitution. As you'll have seen from my edits, I lay them out according to the RS rather than the primary Scottish Parliament source. Alex (talk) 13:11, 31 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Precious anniversary

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WikiCup 2021 March newsletter

Round 1 of the competition has finished; it was a high-scoring round with 21 contestants scoring more than 100 points. Everyone with a positive score moves on to Round 2, with 55 contestants qualifying. You will need to finish among the top thirty-two contestants in Round 2 if you are to qualify for Round 3. Our top scorers in Round 1 were:

  • New York (state) Epicgenius led the field with a featured article, nine good articles and an assortment of other submissions, specialising on buildings and locations in New York, for a total of 945 points.
  • Republic of Venice Bloom6132 was close behind with 896 points, largely gained from 71 "In the news" items, mostly recent deaths.
  • Scotland ImaginesTigers, who has been editing Wikipedia for less than a year, was in third place with 711 points, much helped by bringing League of Legends to featured article status, exemplifying how bonus points can boost a contestant's score.
  • Rwanda Amakuru came next with 708 points, Kigali being another featured article that scored maximum bonus points.
  • Ktin, new to the WikiCup, was in fifth place with 523 points, garnered from 15 DYKs and 34 "In the news" items.
  • Botswana The Rambling Man scored 511 points, many from featured article candidate reviews and from football related DYKs.
  • Gog the Mild, last year's runner-up, came next with 498 points, from a featured article and numerous featured article candidate reviews.
  • Hog Farm, at 452, scored for a featured article, four good articles and a number of reviews.
  • United States Le Panini, another newcomer to the WikiCup, scored 438 for a featured article and three good articles.
  • England Lee Vilenski, last year's champion, scored 332 points, from a featured article and various other sport-related topics.

These contestants, like all the others, now have to start again from scratch. In Round 1, contestants achieved eight featured articles, three featured lists and one featured picture, as well as around two hundred DYKs and twenty-seven ITNs. They completed 97 good article reviews, nearly double the 52 good articles they claimed. Contestants also claimed for 135 featured article and featured list candidate reviews. There is no longer a requirement to mention your WikiCup participation when undertaking these reviews.

Remember that any content promoted after the end of Round 1 but before the start of Round 2 can be claimed in Round 2. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is a good article candidate, a featured process, or something else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews.

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BASICS Scotland

Thanks for your help with the BASICS Scotland page, this and The Sandpiper Trust are new, and probably need a wider range of editors to make them excellent. Tannim101 (talk) 20:13, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

PICT

Hiya, would you be able to offer an opinion on the draft PICT Team page ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Highland_PICT_Team ), I don't want to make it live until its ready to go - but I'm not really experienced enough to know when somethings good enough. Any advice welcome. Tannim101 (talk) 18:01, 10 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

WikiCup 2021 May newsletter

The second round of the 2021 WikiCup has now finished; it was a high-scoring round and contestants needed 61 points to advance to Round 3. There were some impressive efforts in the round, with the top eight contestants all scoring more than 400 points. A large number of the points came from the 12 featured articles and the 110 good articles achieved in total by contestants, as well as the 216 good article reviews they performed; the GAN backlog drive and the stay-at-home imperative during the COVID-19 pandemic may have been partially responsible for these impressive figures.

Our top scorers in Round 2 were:

  • Botswana The Rambling Man, with 2963 points from three featured articles, 20 featured article reviews, 37 good articles, 73 good article reviews, as well as 22 DYKs.
  • New York (state) Epicgenius, with 1718 points from one featured article, 29 good articles, 16 DYKs and plenty of bonus points.
  • Republic of Venice Bloom6132, with 990 points from 13 DYKs and 64 "In the news" items, mostly recent deaths.
  • Hog Farm, with 834 points from two featured articles, five good articles, 14 featured article reviews and 15 good article reviews.
  • England Gog the Mild, with 524 points from two featured articles and four featured article reviews.
  • England Lee Vilenski, with 501 points from one featured article, three good articles, six featured article reviews and 25 good article reviews.
  • Sammi Brie, with 485 points from four good articles, eight good article reviews and 27 DYKs, on US radio and television stations.
  • Ktin, with 436 points from four good articles, seven DYKs and 11 "In the news" items.

Please remember that DYKs cannot be claimed until they have appeared on the main page. As we enter the third round, any content promoted after the end of Round 2 but before the start of Round 3 can be claimed now, and anything you forgot to claim in Round 2 cannot! Remember too, that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them (except for at the end of each round, when you must claim them before the cut-off date/time). When doing GARs, please make sure that you check that all the GA criteria are fully met.

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WikiCup 2021 July newsletter

The third round of the 2021 WikiCup has now come to an end. Each of the sixteen contestants who made it into the fourth round had at least 294 points, and our top six scorers all had over 600 points. They were:

  • Botswana The Rambling Man, with 1825 points from 3 featured articles, 44 featured article reviews, 14 good articles, 30 good article reviews and 10 DYKs. In addition, he completed a 34-article good topic on the EFL Championship play-offs.
  • New York (state) Epicgenius, a New York specialist, with 1083 points from 2 featured article reviews, 18 good articles, 30 DYKs and plenty of bonus points.
  • Republic of Venice Bloom6132, with 869 points from 11 DYKs, all with bonus points, and 54 "In the news" items, mostly covering people who had recently died.
  • England Gog the Mild, with 817 points from 3 featured articles on historic battles in Europe, 5 featured article reviews and 3 good articles.
  • Hog Farm, with 659 points from 2 featured articles and 2 good articles on American Civil War battles, 18 featured article reviews, 2 good articles, 6 good article reviews and 4 DYKs.
  • Zulu (International Code of Signals) BennyOnTheLoose, a snooker specialist and new to the Cup, with 647 points from a featured article, 2 featured article reviews, 6 good articles, 6 good article reviews and 3 DYKs.

In round three, contestants achieved 19 featured articles, 7 featured lists, 106 featured article reviews, 72 good articles, 1 good topic, 62 good article reviews, 165 DYKs and 96 ITN items. We enter the fourth round with scores reset to zero; any content promoted after the end of round 3 but before the start of round 4 can be claimed in round 4. Please also remember that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them (one contestant in round 3 lost out because of this). When doing GARs, please make sure that you check that all the GA criteria are fully met.

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WikiCup 2021 September newsletter

The fourth round of the competition has finished with over 500 points being required to qualify for the final round. It was a hotly competitive round with two contestants, Botswana The Rambling Man and New York (state) Epicgenius, each scoring over 3000 points, and six contestants scoring over 1000. All but one of the finalists achieved one or more FAs during the round, the exception being Republic of Venice Bloom6132 who demonstrated that 61 "in the news" items produces an impressive number of points. Other contestants who made it to the final are Gog the Mild, England Lee Vilenski, Zulu (International Code of Signals) BennyOnTheLoose, Rwanda Amakuru and Hog Farm. However, all their points are now swept away and everyone starts afresh in the final round.

Round 4 saw the achievement of 18 featured articles and 157 good articles. George Floyd mural Bilorv scored for a 25-article good topic on Black Mirror but narrowly missed out on qualifying for the final round. There was enthusiasm for FARs, with 89 being performed, and there were 63 GARs and around 100 DYKs during the round. As we start round 5, we say goodbye to the eight competitors who didn't quite make it to the final round; thank you for the useful contributions you have made to the Cup and Wikipedia, and we hope you will join us again next year. For other contestants, remember that any content promoted after the end of round 4 but before the start of round 5 can be claimed in round 5. Remember too that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them.

If you are concerned that your nomination, whether it be for a good article, a featured process, or anything else, will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed (remember to remove your listing when no longer required). If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to help keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Sturmvogel 66 and Cwmhiraeth. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:01, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Am Buidheann Dubh for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Am Buidheann Dubh is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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Eastmain (talkcontribs) 19:36, 1 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

WikiCup 2021 November newsletter

The WikiCup is over for another year and the finalists can relax! Our Champion this year is Botswana The Rambling Man (submissions), who amassed over 5000 points in the final round, achieving 8 featured articles and almost 500 reviews. It was a very competitive round; seven of the finalists achieved over 1000 points in the round (enough to win the 2019 contest), and three scored over 3000 (enough to win the 2020 event). Our 2021 finalists and their scores were:

  1. Botswana The Rambling Man (submissions) with 5072 points
  2. England Lee Vilenski (submissions) with 3276 points
  3. Rwanda Amakuru (submissions) with 3197 points
  4. New York (state) Epicgenius (submissions) with 1611 points
  5. Gog the Mild (submissions) with 1571 points
  6. Zulu (International Code of Signals) BennyOnTheLoose (submissions) with 1420 points
  7. Hog Farm (submissions) with 1043 points
  8. Republic of Venice Bloom6132 (submissions) with 528 points

All those who reached the final round will win awards. The following special awards will be made based on high performance in particular areas of content creation and review. Awards will be handed out in the next few days.

Congratulations to everyone who participated in this year's WikiCup, whether they made it to the final round or not, and particular congratulations to the newcomers to the WikiCup, some of whom did very well. Wikipedia has benefitted greatly from the quality creations, expansions and improvements made, and the numerous reviews performed. Thanks to all who have taken part and helped out with the competition, not forgetting User:Jarry1250, who runs the scoring bot.

If you have views on whether the rules or scoring need adjustment for next year's contest, please comment on the WikiCup talk page. Next year's competition will begin on 1 January. You are invited to sign up to participate; the WikiCup is open to all Wikipedians, both novices and experienced editors, and we hope to see you all in the 2022 competition. Until then, it only remains to once again congratulate our worthy winners, and thank all participants for their involvement! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Sturmvogel 66 and Cwmhiraeth. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 19:55, 3 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Nomination of Oliver Mortimer for deletion

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HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 13:21, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Precious anniversary

Precious
Five years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:17, 1 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Edit reverts - please leave a message on the talk page

Hi Chris, I noticed you reverted the edits of Special:Contributions/58.165.174.211 earlier today, on the ScotRail page. I wanted to remind you that, when you revert an edit (particularly here which, for some, could constitute vandalism) you should always leave a message on the offending user's talk page. I have now done this, but if I don't respond in time, please could you do this yourself if/when this happens. If you need to know what to write on their talk page, you can see what I've put on one of my subpages here. Thanks. Mattdaviesfsic (talk) 19:37, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]