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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by 195.194.178.251 (talk) at 13:31, 15 February 2007 (→''Media''). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

I've removed some links to commercial galleries or individual artists who appear to be purely promoting their own work or websites - Self promotion or vanity publishing is against Wiki guidlelines - Otherwise anyone could just add a link to this article because they happen to paint in acylic or sell acrylic paintings - Rrose Selavy



acrylic paint is removed by turpentine or mineral spirits.

But not easily...

MWAK--84.27.81.59 14:45, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Mediums

I added the paragraph about mediums, incorporating a sentence about binding characteristics that was already there. Through the use of mediums, it is possible to achieve a vast range of effects that are not possible in oils and watercolors..

Media

The plural form of the word "medium" is "media" — not "mediums" — and I changed the entry accordingly. Also, I replaced a lot of parenthetical second-guessing with a "citation needed" tag. Buck 18:19, 24 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Buck, I am the fellow that wrote the paragraph on mediums. I too love the Chicago Manual of Style, but you are applying a dying and archaic plural form to a modern word. The plural of "painting medium" is "painting mediums," and any painter who heard you say "painting media" would probably still understand you, but would think that your English was terribly stilted. This usage is completely established in all forms of modern English. Metzenberg April 9, 2006.

I think substituting an "a" for the end of the word is how you form some plurals in Latin. Adding an "s" or "es" is how you form plurals in English. In English, I believe e.g. stadia is incorrect and stadiums is correct.

Where on Earth did you find your datums?

Media

Media may well be the plural of medium, however the industry commonly refers to these products as Acrylic Mediums, not Acrylic Media.

Thank you. That is correct. I am in the industry. Metzenberg April 9, 2006.

Removal by Turps

Sorry, this is incorrect. The turps won't be removing the acrylic paint, ones own elbow grease will be doing that. You see, once an acrylic paint has cured (24hrs - 2 weeks), it undergoes a chemical change as the acrylic emulsion particles bind together. Using turps or mineral spirits won't unbind these particles. The friction of rubbing them is what may be doing this. Once cured, acrylic paints are cured irriversibly(sp). Most manufacturers actually sell turps based varnishes.

acrylic techniques and restrictions

"There are techniques which are available only to acrylic painters, as well as restrictions unique to acrylic painting"

It would be nice to have a reference or elaborate more on this sentence. Not knowing much about acrylic paints (which is why I was reading the article) I have no clue what you are referring to.

It would make more sense to write specific pages about the techniques and cross-link to the Acrylic Paint article Rawbear 22:57, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Contradiction

The following two statements seem to contradict eachother.

"one of the disadvantages of this medium is that paintings can crack and be corrupted much sooner than with oil."

"Although the permanency of acrylics is sometimes debated by conservators, they appear more stable than oil paints. Whereas oil paints normally turn yellow as they age/dry(oxidize), acrylic paints, at least in the 50 years since invention, do not yellow, crack, or change."

I'd guess the second is more accurate.

I've never heard the first statement from knowlegable sources, nor scene evidence of it! Sounds very biased and unsupported, is someone talking about cheap beginner grade paint slapped on with lots of water?

Acrylic paint is not plastic.

"...and the fact that acrylic paints dry to a shiny, smooth effect—not surprising since acrylic paints are, basically, plastic"

Yes and no. Paint is a combination of the pigment(s) and the binder. Acrylic paint pigments are the same pigments used in oil and watercolor paints. The acrylic binder is what defines an acrylic paint. It's more accurate to say that the binder (not the paint) is plastic.

"Another one of the disadvantages of this medium is that paintings can crack and be corrupted much sooner than with oil, however, using suitable extenders that increase the thickness of the paint but make it remain plastic-like, or by applying the paint in thinner layers removes this problem to a large extent. Most painters outside of the 20th Century have mixed their own paints to increase the longevity of the artwork, and suitable mediums and powder colours are available for producing your own acrylic paint."

Almost all this paragraph is untrue. Acrylics do not crack or become "corrupted" sooner than oil. Oils are notorious for cracking with time and tend to yellow. The purpose of extenders is not to extend the life of the acrylic. Most painters outside the 20th century (do you mean before the 20th century?) mixed their own paint because of the lack of commercial sources, not to increase the longevity of their work. It would be really useful to list the many advantages of acrylic paint (rapid drying time, relative lack of toxicity, solubility/cleanup with water, color saturation and brightness).

--the paragraph about "another one of the disadvantages of this medium..." sounded awful, so I reworded it. and there is no such thing as "powder colours" in an artist's vocabulary. there are 'pigments' which are good, and "dry tempera" which you only buy by mistake then have to use up teaching kid's classes. --Kyle Clements - BFA

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