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April 20

Category:GS Consolat players

Nominator's rationale: GS Consolat is the former name of Athlético Marseille. Essentially, all these players in this category should be in Category:Athlético Marseille players. We should just merge this into that. Otherwise, just delete the other category and move this category there (or just delete this one). Anyways, there just needs to be one category called Category:Athlético Marseille players and this one can't exist. Paul Vaurie (talk) 23:23, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Category:900 mm gauge railways in Iceland

Nominator's rationale: Not a category that's going to have more than a single entry anytime soon. Kj cheetham (talk) 22:10, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Category:600 mm gauge railways in Iceland

Nominator's rationale: Not a category that's going to have more than a single entry anytime soon. Kj cheetham (talk) 22:10, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Commercial seafood

Nominator's rationale: merge/rename, ambiguous characteristic, how should we distinguish commercial edible fish from non-commercial edible fish? All edible fish in these categories is traded and sold. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:24, 26 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
There are some arguments against your proposed categories. Many marine species that are used by humans are neither fished nor caught but farmed, e.g. salmon, algae, oysters. --AlienFood (talk) 07:28, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose commercially fished sealife is not only about human edible sealife. There's other things that are fished and turned into fertilizer and animal feed and jewelry and other products -- 65.92.246.142 (talk) 04:52, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Reverse merge doesn't make sense as fish and mollusc species might be edible but are not used commercially, e.g. endangered species. --AlienFood (talk) 07:28, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose most fish/molluscs/crustaceans/echinoderms are edible (i.e., humans can gain calories from eating them without being poisoned). Some of those that are poisonous can be detoxified with appropriate preparation (is fugu an edible fish? People do eat it without dying.) Most species in these groups aren't regularly eaten by humans for a variety of reasons. They may taste bad, be small in size, occur in small numbers, occur in places that aren't easily accessed by humans (e.g. the deep sea), etc. Commercially fished species are the ones that humans eat regularly. Edibility is too broad a criterion to be WP:DEFINING. There is some gray area with "commercial"; commercial could cover a spectrum of species sold in global markets for millions of dollars annually to species that a subsistence fisherman might occasionally sell to their neighbors. However, I think "commercial" is more manageable as a defining characteristic than "edible". I would be inclined to delete the "edible" categories, but included articles shouldn't be simply recategorized as "commercial" without confirming that the recategorization is appropriate. Also, note this previous deletion discussion:Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 December 10#Category:Edible cephalopods. Plantdrew (talk) 02:16, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JBchrch talk 19:19, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Polo clubs

Nominator's rationale: upmerge per WP:SMALLCAT, all have only one or two articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:51, 12 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JBchrch talk 19:12, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Hollywood, Los Angeles history and culture

Nominator's rationale: split, throughout the category tree we have history and culture separated (with cultural history as the intersection), there is no reason why we wouldn't apply that to Hollywood to. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:39, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Category:West Lusatia

Nominator's rationale: delete, West Lusatia is not a real region and the category mainly contains populated places for which the term West Lusatia is not defining. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:34, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. I'm surprised that this has been nominated for deletion. The concept "West Lusatia" or Westlausitz has been around for 70 years and is testified, not just in the literature, but in culture. For example, there is a West Lusatian dialect and a West Lusatian Museum. What is a "real region"? West Lusatia may not be a formal administrative entity, but it appears to be geographically and linguistically quite well defined. Bermicourt (talk) 18:46, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Christian bell towers

Nominator's rationale: purge and manually merge, the articles about churches and cathedrals should be removed and articles about bell towers should be kept. However, bell towers do not have a religion, so manually disperse to Category:Bell towers and its country subcategories. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:08, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Translators en-en

Nominator's rationale Nonsense user categories - one cannot meaningfully translate (or proofread a translation) from English to English. * Pppery * it has begun... 16:36, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Category:User en-sa

Nominator's rationale: Don't need two categories for South African English. "En-za" appears to be the correct code. * Pppery * it has begun... 16:31, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Category:User en-cñ

Nominator's rationale: Previously deleted at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2007 January 4, then recreated out-of-process one month later. The reasons for the original deletion appear to still be valid. * Pppery * it has begun... 16:31, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Category:User en-au

Nominator's rationale: Per Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 June 4#Category:User en-ca * Pppery * it has begun... 16:31, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Category:User smo

Nominator's rationale: Rename to use ISO 639-1 code rather than ISO 639-2 code. Alternately, delete as the category contains only one userbox and no actual users. * Pppery * it has begun... 16:17, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Members of the All-India Yadav Mahasabha

Nominator's rationale: This follows earlier discussions (Category:Nair people CfD and WT:IN - Caste lists vs. Caste cats) where editors reach consensus not to have caste-categorizations. All the articles categorized are unsourced to be a member of the organization except Poornima Krishnappa, thus a blatant violation of WP:BLP and/or WP:OR, where applicable — DaxServer (t · m · c) 15:38, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Notified WT:IN of the CfD — DaxServer (t · m · c) 15:45, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Almohad historians

Nominator's rationale: Only one article, already in Category:13th-century Moroccan historians Rathfelder (talk) 13:45, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Category:PAGES WITH LOGIN REQUIRED REFERENCES OR SOURCES

Nominator's rationale: If this isn't used, it should be deleted. If it is used, it should be moved to a NON-SHOUTING version. Fram (talk) 13:04, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note; we already have Category:Pages with login required references or sources, so I guess the above is redundant and unused. Fram (talk) 15:45, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I created it at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 136#CATEGORY:PAGES WITH LOGIN REQUIRED REFERENCES OR SOURCES because a template combination sometimes added the all caps version and it was an ugly red category on articles. The templates no longer add it so it has nu purpose now. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:10, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. I probably should have realized looked more closely and realized that this was useless when I added parent categories on December 10. * Pppery * it has begun... 16:17, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Category:LGBT motorboat racers

Nominator's rationale: Farfetched categorization with just ONE entry.Mill 1 (talk) 12:31, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Category:People from Cherry Tree, Pennsylvania

Nominator's rationale: Small one-county community with just two entries. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 11:01, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Na'vi

Nominator's rationale: "navi" is not a valid language code. The collaborative value of a category grouping users who have a basic understanding of a constructed language invented for a film is questionable. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:25, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment it would depend on the language community, if it were as active as the Klingon speakers or the Sindarin/Quenya speakers, or Esperanto speakers. It does have the IETF code "art-x-navi" so it would seem there would be some users. -- 65.92.246.142 (talk) 20:32, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Marcocapelle (talk) 05:12, 20 April 2022 (UTC) [reply]