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It took some time to reply to your suggestion on my talk page. But this is too difficult for me to edit. I am looking at edits by some other contributors, such as this and thinking: "Why this guy is whitewashing war crimes committed during the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine?" User tells in edit summary "not a war crime" about the use of thermobaric weapons (also known as a "vacuum bomb") against civilians and Ukrainian military. This issue has been discussed at talk here [1], and this ref [2] was given to the user during discussion. Nevertheless, they made the edit above, i.e. the unilateral removal of well sourced text about the alleged war crimes. I thought about reporting him to WP:AE, but it would probably be dismissed just as another content dispute. I simply can not interact with such users, and this is not just one user, so I am probably going to avoid editing such subjects. Best regards, My very best wishes (talk) 16:41, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- I changed my response. This is just something very difficult to admit for someone like me. My very best wishes (talk) 15:41, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is less fun than it once was. I feel overwhelmed by the behavior issues. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:27, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
- This is a painful subject. I could still try to do something. But unfortunately, there are users who edit war to make this subject disappear (despite to the recent AfD of the page closed a "no consensus"), and especially one of them who was previously blocked for edit-warring on this page: [3],[4]. I went to this page because one of users pinged me at the talk, but I can not even try to fix the page given this history [5]. My very best wishes (talk) 02:52, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is less fun than it once was. I feel overwhelmed by the behavior issues. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:27, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
Deletion Restore Request: for Ketto - Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ketto (3rd nomination)
[[Ketto}} @deepfriedokra I request you to please help me restore this page. I will give my best to edit and ensure this page alligns to WIKI guidelines. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24x7magic (talk • contribs) 10:43, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
- @24x7magic: I'm afraid the subject does not meet inclusion requirements for an encyclopedia article. The page was clearly SPAM. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. It is not the place for advertising. If you have a relationship with the subject, please read and heed WP:COI and WP:PAID. Thanks, --Deepfriedokra (talk) 12:04, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
In need at ANI once again
Hello. I have opened an ANI here. Could you have a look at it and, if possible, impose sanctions where needed?
Last time I opened an ANI for this user, no action was taken until three days later after I asked some admins to have a look at it, so this time I decided to start asking sooner. The admin Ymblanter does not want to intervene for - from what I understand - ethical reasons. Thanks in advance. Veverve (talk) 20:22, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
@Ymblanter: What does it all mean? --Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:53, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry, I do not think I understand your question. I stopped acting as admin in topics related to the former Soviet Union (with the exception of vandalism and similarly clear-cut cases) some time ago, I have a notice of this on my user page. Ymblanter (talk) 21:49, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Veverve: Looks like a lot of bickering. Possible a content dispute. Maybe a talk page watcher who likes to read will take a look. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:23, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
Seems to be a proxy?
That IP seems to have been a proxy, or do you leave that sort of thing up to CUs like Zzuuzz? Mako001 (C) (T) 🇺🇦 12:41, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Mako001: Yes, they have better eyes and can see deeper and farther. -- --Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:33, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
Devante Parker Trade
What would need to happen in order to verify? NFL posted it on Twitter and it is Patriots.com, first time on Wikipedia so let me know! N724tx (talk) 18:01, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- @N724tx: that might do it. Regrettably, you did not cite your source. Let's ask @Swagging:. Is that not sufficient? Perhaps you can help with the cite? --Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:09, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- I have also gotten another confirmation from Phil Perry.
- https://twitter.com/PhilAPerry/status/1510315764171132937 N724tx (talk) 18:17, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- @N724tx: Links, please? Or discuss on article talk? --Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:11, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- Sure!
- https://twitter.com/NFL/status/1510306562258046978
- https://www.patriots.com/news/report-patriots-acquire-wr-devante-parker-from-miami
- https://www.nfl.com/news/devante-parker-trade-patriots-acquiring-receiver-dolphins
- I will note, all the reports are based on this one tweet, https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1510301599834513413 N724tx (talk) 18:15, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- @N724tx: Hmm. Please post to the talk page an WP:EDITREQUEST to make the change and provide the links there. I think that's sufficient, but don't want to look stupid(er) if I'm wrong. Let me know how it turns out.! (Oh, God, those instructions are too complicated. Just start a new thread on the talk page about the change and ask if these links are enough.) --Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:33, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- Haha thank you! Will do. I appreciate the help :)
- N724tx (talk) 18:37, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- Glad to help18:56, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Tireless Contributor Barnstar | |
You deserve one of these.. Keep it going Volten001 ☎ 13:56, 3 April 2022 (UTC) |
Chipotle woes
So there's a Qdoba and a Baja Fresh near'ish to my house, and they're both decent and about the same in quality. Lately, I've been ordering a bowl: bed of lettuce, black beans, whatever protein, veggies, avocado, and so on (hoT sauce on the side). But yesterday, I was in a far away part of town, so I grabbed some Chipotle (same order). Tasted about the same as those other two, but then, unlike those other two, it did n0t agree with me ('nuff said!). El_C 14:19, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
- When you're hot, you're hot! --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:33, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
- That's the thing, though, it wasn't even that hot. Like, a 5 to my usual 10 for Indian food. El_C 14:37, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
- --When you're not, you're not. --Jerry Reed --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:44, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
- That's the thing, though, it wasn't even that hot. Like, a 5 to my usual 10 for Indian food. El_C 14:37, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
dael fry
why did you block me he is 6’4 i updated a misinformation 213.107.51.107 (talk) 19:04, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
- Please see your talk page. You did not cite a reliable source. Please see your talk page. Please discuss content and sourcing on the article talk page. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:06, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
Delete these pages
Princess Faye/redwarnRules.json & Princess Faye/redwarnConfig.js —Príncess Faye (talk) 14:22, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
Prefix appeal
Hey, your response to my appeal in UTRS for 82.221.0.0/16 indicates that you did not read my message. Can you please respond to the given points in it. - Gunnar Guðvarðarson (My Talk Page) 15:52, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Gunnar Guðvarðarson: you are editing, so you are not blocked. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:54, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- And no, Imy decline was spot on. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:55, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- You should address your concerns to @ST47:, the blocking admin. Perhaps he can unravel it for you. UTRS appeal #53149 . --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:59, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- So, because there exist colo prefixes in our giant allocation, that's reason enough to block it all?
Why not block 0.0.0.0/0 then? It contains a lot of colocation hosts... - Gunnar Guðvarðarson (My Talk Page) 16:02, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Gunnar Guðvarðarson: I think you need to discuss with the blocking admin, ST47. Cheers, --Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:04, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
Discussion at WP:THQ § How to i close a file for discussion
You are invited to join the discussion at WP:THQ § How to i close a file for discussion. Marchjuly (talk) 20:52, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- Hi Deepfriedokra. Not so much asking you to comment here (of course you can), but maybe you could keep an eye on this user for a bit. They might try to close the FFD despite being advised not to. They’ve tried to do so once already in a sense by removing the FFD notification from the file’s page, but that was easy to fix. — Marchjuly (talk) 20:58, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- Oops. Missed your comment there. Thank you. — Marchjuly (talk) 21:00, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- I've Seen All Good People turn their heads each day, so satisfied I'm on my way. --Yes (band), --Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:07, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- custodio --Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:14, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- I probably should’ve explained why I asked you about this. It wasn’t really to get you to close the FFD, but rather because you had previously blocked this user once before. They seemed to be surrounding themselves with themselves with respect to this file when they probably should be moving on back two squares and letting the process run its course. So, I thought they might be more inclined to listen to you than perhaps some TH host. Anyway, thank you again for looking at this and commenting. FFDs are, in principle, supposed to stay open for at least a week and this one will probably take much more time than that to resolve. — Marchjuly (talk) 22:48, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Marchjuly: Oh, I did not think you wanted me to close that. (yech) I guess they've stopped. I'm watching the file and the FfD. I'll send an instant karma their way if they start up again. I thought you covered it quite well at the TeaHouse. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 23:17, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- I probably should’ve explained why I asked you about this. It wasn’t really to get you to close the FFD, but rather because you had previously blocked this user once before. They seemed to be surrounding themselves with themselves with respect to this file when they probably should be moving on back two squares and letting the process run its course. So, I thought they might be more inclined to listen to you than perhaps some TH host. Anyway, thank you again for looking at this and commenting. FFDs are, in principle, supposed to stay open for at least a week and this one will probably take much more time than that to resolve. — Marchjuly (talk) 22:48, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- custodio --Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:14, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- I've Seen All Good People turn their heads each day, so satisfied I'm on my way. --Yes (band), --Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:07, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
Had you seen this?
Because I had not: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jacob Barnett (4th nomination). There are reams of source material directly detailing the subject. There is a bunch of drek, I'll grant. IMHO, this subject met GNG, even though the process outcome was delete. I'm not sure what to do, but I view the draft differently than before. After going a simple gsearch I found enough material (just from 2020–22) to meet GNG, not just the stuff deleted in 2014. There are mountains of sources, about half are blogs. If this were an event, the subject certainly would meet WP:DURATION. Some of the non-reliable sources are nonetheless intriguing. I'm hesitant to talk too much about it, but encourage you to look at this non-reliable source: https://discover.hubpages.com/health/An-Aspergers-Syndrome-Fairytale-Turns-Into-A-Nightmare (blacklist). There's a deep and partly documented story here which can't be ignored forever. BusterD (talk) 07:52, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- I guess I had seen it but not clicked on it. We probably SHOULD have an article on this 22?-year old, IMHO. BusterD (talk) 08:00, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- @BusterD: Well, if a neutral, RS'd version meeting WP:ANYBIO can be created, that would be nice. Once a subject becomes a pop culture sensation/legend, it can be hard to separate out the dross. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 08:13, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
I can help in Sockpuppet investgation
Hi Deepfriedokra, pardon me for dropping a message here. But I had something to notify you. Regarding this, I can help as such socks are used Assamese names(using English letters) as the username, and I understand their language very well. I will be thankful if I can help Wiki to prevent such socks. Regards- --NeverTry4Me - TT Page 04:57, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
- @NeverTry4Me: Thanks, but they are going more on behavioral evidence and check user evidence. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 09:38, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
- @@Deepfriedokra: Uhmm... that's good for the Wiki. But I must be a bit sincere here, as per your faith on me. :) Really, it is a pleasure to be here after getting unblocked tons of and 'unblock request'. I'm happy because I said, I'll come back with reputation, but not with socks. I don't care of the socks pretending to me, because I know the lingual differences, IP (as I use static) and 'meaning in native language' in their usernames. Ex: Gnisu-> 'I won'; Uyuyioiop-> 'Sunrise in Assamese', Daichapra-> 'one who originates from else and settled in another place by ancestry', etc. etc.
Still, I believe I can figure out the socks. Pardon my mistakes. Regards- NeverTry4Me - TT Page 10:01, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
- @@Deepfriedokra: Uhmm... that's good for the Wiki. But I must be a bit sincere here, as per your faith on me. :) Really, it is a pleasure to be here after getting unblocked tons of and 'unblock request'. I'm happy because I said, I'll come back with reputation, but not with socks. I don't care of the socks pretending to me, because I know the lingual differences, IP (as I use static) and 'meaning in native language' in their usernames. Ex: Gnisu-> 'I won'; Uyuyioiop-> 'Sunrise in Assamese', Daichapra-> 'one who originates from else and settled in another place by ancestry', etc. etc.
As for the "Retired"
You mentioned my 'retired' banner. I do not know if it concerns the enforcement directly, unlike the rest of your message. I am willing to provide further details on it if need be, but I am not sure if you would prefer me to do it here or at the Enforcement. And in this case I do not know if I still have enough space left for my statement to do so. Veverve (talk) 13:27, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
Request on 18:27:43, 12 April 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Doctorstrange617
Hi there, do you think that a page for Andrew Henderson (the founder and CEO of Nomad Capitalist) is more realistic than a page for the company? I'm only asking because he's been featured by a bunch of mainstream news outlets, including this one recently: https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/29/which-countries-have-the-best-passports-most-are-in-europe.html
I don't really understand why he wouldn't deserve a page, since we can point to a lot of news stories where they're prominently covered. Just based off a simple Google search, there's a dozen or so. Thank you!
Doctorstrange617 (talk) 18:27, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
- "@Doctorstrange617: Meh. I don't think "deserve" is the right word. I don't think anyone "deserves" an encyclopedia article. If you mean does he meet inclusion requirements, then the only thing to do is write a draft citing reliable sources that are unconnected with the subject and have a reputation for fact checking, and then submit for the WP:AFC reviewers to look at it . --Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:20, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
- Oh, the WP:Teahouse people can answer that better. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:36, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
editing disclosures
Thanks for the offer of assistance. I'm an employee of the Alameda County Library system and I'm trying to figure out the best way to handle disclosures so that I can update relevant articles. Rest-assured I'm aware of the prohibition on marketing/promotion, it will only be to update out-of-date factual info. Also, we may be interested in utilizing the Wikipedian in residence program, as I have some previous experience on the 'pedia. How might we go about establishing that? -Libraryguy1312 (talk) 16:32, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Libraryguy1312: The Wikipedian in residence program sounds like a good thing for a librarian, but I really down know about it. Please read and heed WP:COI and WP:PAID for the other. @DGG: probably knows more about WiR. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:41, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
WiRs are not supposed to write about their own library or other institution. They are expected to help other people in the library understand Wikipedia so they can explain it to users, and to guide and instruct patrons in using WP and in writing their own articles. If they do that, there is no problem with WP:PAID. Otherwise, like anyone else employed by the library, they must follow WP:COI with respect to their own system.
- If you are doing an uncontroversial update to an article about your library, there is no reason not to do it directly in mainspace. If you are doing it in a manner that might be considered promotional, it has to be done via an edit request, which is an extremely cumbersome system. You need to give the full WP:PAID statement on your user page, and preferably also on the talk page of every relevant article you edit.This may sound excessively cautious, but the interpretation of the rules became stricter after we had one WiR (at Harvard) wrote controversial promotional material about his institute and its director. DGG ( talk ) 03:37, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
Use of SPS
Hello Deepfriedokra, after the protection made on the List of equipment of the Ukrainian Ground Forces, two new created accounts Lucas Cavalcante Mesquita, Conservative cheese ball insist on placing Self Published sources on the article. Despite the proptection. first. 2nd time. Instead of adding Wikipedia:EDITREQUEST for inclusion, they simply reinstate those sources.Mr.User200 (talk) 16:42, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
- Hello Deepfriedokra,
- The page is constantly being vandalised by certain individuals for whatever reasons.The sources used are reliable and as per Wikipedia reliable sources "Self-published expert sources may be considered reliable when produced by an established expert on the subject matter, whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable, independent publications.".This source has been cited by many reputable sources such the British Financial Times, The Independent, The Economist and The Guardian or the Americans Wall Street Journal or Forbes.The author/Creator of this sources also works for bellingcat. All of these sources are considered very reliable according to Wikipedia:New page patrol source guide.I have been editing this page since about when the conflict in Ukraine started so to say I am a new account isn't true.I and may other have been using this source and everyone has generally accepted the use of it except a very small minority.I and others also have been discussing the use of this source and The user above has made no attempt to try communicate with others before deleting large quantities of information which is what was recommended by Callanecc. Conservative cheese ball (talk) 18:14, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
- I think you both might want to stop labeling edits you disagree with as vandalism. I think I will remind both of you to assume good faith. I think it would be best if you stop reverting and discuss your edits and sourcing on the article talk page. You can seek an opinion on the disputed sources at the reliable sources board. There are many steps you can take in dispute resolution. If talk page discussion is fruitless, you can seek a third opinion from a neutral editor. Hope this helps. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:46, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for clarifying. Conservative cheese ball (talk) 19:16, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
- I think you both might want to stop labeling edits you disagree with as vandalism. I think I will remind both of you to assume good faith. I think it would be best if you stop reverting and discuss your edits and sourcing on the article talk page. You can seek an opinion on the disputed sources at the reliable sources board. There are many steps you can take in dispute resolution. If talk page discussion is fruitless, you can seek a third opinion from a neutral editor. Hope this helps. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:46, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
created Draft please help me to published it
Respected Deepfriedokra, This is inform you that I have recently created Draft:Nk Dairy Equipments please help me to make it publish and also suggest me about to remove any content that violate Wikipedia guidelines as I am confused in that and i also don't want violate any guideline. Please help!. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sunnysinghwiki (talk • contribs) 06:41, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Sunnysinghwiki: Thank you for helping to build Wikipedia. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia-- subjects of articles must meet notability guidelines with reliable sources which are unconnected with the subject and which provide verifiable information. Someone unconnected with the subject needs to have written a great deal about the subject. Please see WP:NCORP for inclusion requirements.
- This page needs, unfortunately, to be rewritten from scratch using reliable, third party sources unconnected to the subject. The current sourcing does not deal with the subject directly in sufficient depth. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. It is not an outlet for promotion, advocacy, or advertising.
- Information on content and common pitfalls to avoid can be located here and here, however be aware that this is not an exhaustive list. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 06:59, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
- PS The new user tutorial can help you avoid future problems. You can also ask for help at the TEAHOUSE and on IRC chat. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 07:10, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
wouldn't bother
I wouldn't bother with niceties for this user they're trolling xwiki. CUPIDICAE💕 16:21, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
- I saw that. I read a little German. Not Korean though. Well, I live in hope. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:29, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
I want to create a draft for Septimius Awards
Hello talk Deepfriedokra , I want to create a draft for Septimius Awards. Liz invited me to Teahouse to improve the article, so I want to improve the article with the feedback from the users of Teahouse — Preceding unsigned comment added by Evagirl1991 (talk • contribs) 11:50, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Evagirl1991: Yes. Ask at the Teahouse for more personalized help than that linked in my deletion notice. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:18, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
- Hello Deepfriedokra can you restore the draft page so I can improve the article with the help of Teahouse ? Evagirl1991 (talk) 13:29, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry, no. That was Spam. It will need to be rewritten from scratch, with non promotional content, cited to reliable sources as explained in the deletion notice I place on your talk page. The subject's website and press releases are not suitable. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:32, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
- I will email it to you if you have email enabled. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:34, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
- Done --Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:39, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
- thank you very much for the email, i will rewrite the from scratch if you give me a chance :) Evagirl1991 (talk) 14:40, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry, no. That was Spam. It will need to be rewritten from scratch, with non promotional content, cited to reliable sources as explained in the deletion notice I place on your talk page. The subject's website and press releases are not suitable. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:32, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
- Hello Deepfriedokra can you restore the draft page so I can improve the article with the help of Teahouse ? Evagirl1991 (talk) 13:29, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
Wikieditoreddy ignored your warnings here. May be time to implement some of those discretionary sanctions... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 13:51, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
- Bloody Hell. I hate DS. Why can't people listen. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:51, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
- partial block, regular admin action. job done w/o the paper work. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:57, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
Liberal ideology
In a world of liberal snowflakes and easily upset grown children who can not decide if they are a boy or a girl , we now can rely upon you to protect the easily offended..Thank God..oops sorry...I mean praise Allah and Black lives matter! ( atleast for votes anyway right idiot ?? ) 2600:1003:B844:384C:2973:F55F:F83:1DF3 (talk) 17:23, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for holding me accountable! Please remember, rules such as MOS:GENDERID are determined not by me but by the WP:CONSENSUS of Wikipedia editors. Not sure why you are here, though. I'm here to build and curate the world's largest free-content online encyclopedia! I get goosebumps every time I write that. Thanks again. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:29, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
- On a personal note, I never was much for Islam. I'm more a Catholozen myself. And, come to think of it, I would imagine many fundamentalist Moslems might share your view on the whole binary/non binary issue. Yours in Christ. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:33, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
2603:6011:4301:8c00::/64
Hi. Can you extend 2603:6011:4301:8c00::/64 (talk · contribs)'s block. This is an LTA user that doesn't limit to one page (examples [6][7]). Thanks in advance. (CC) Tbhotch™ 16:37, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
- Looks like HJ Mitchell made them go away --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:11, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
The Yuriy Sedykh POV-pusher
Someone (I think Billsmith60) was just in #wikipedia-en-help connect complaining about 2A02:1388:2081:3FEA:0:0:0:0/64 (block range · block log (global) · WHOIS (partial)). I see you've taken care of the /64's edits to Yuriy Sedykh. I've reverted elsewhere. There probably isn't anything else to do now (they've stopped editing, and the range is too dynamic to know which talkpage to warn on), but thought I'd put it on your radar that the issue goes beyond that one page. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 14:05, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Tamzin: Thanks. I'd already protected the page, and now blocked that range. I saw where they removed a post on Maxim's talk from Billsmith.
Clearly a nogoodnick. I got in a fresh box of blocks and SP's, so pretty sure I can outlast them.Or just intensely bad at communicating and WP:AGF. Will watch the page. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:28, 21 April 2022 (UTC)- See below thread. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:15, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
According to all sources Yuriy Sedykh was Russian, not Ukrainian! You 're finished as admin, i will request for your deadminship. That is too enough misuse of adminship tools... Levvi1an (talk) 14:48, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Levvi1an: Please discuss content and sourcing on article talk page. Thanks, --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:52, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- it 's too late, you' re POV-pusher, not admin... Levvi1an (talk) 14:56, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- Please discuss content and sourcing on article talk. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:58, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Billsmith60 and Tamzin: Hey! --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:55, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- I mean I guess I'll co-sign a recall request.[Joke] But uh... Guess it's good we don't have to deal with them hopping all over the /64 now. Although of course it's evasion if one wants to go down that route... -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 15:00, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Am WP:AGF that this is concerned editor and that nogoodnick not evading block. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:01, 21 April 2022 (UTC)Not nogoodnik. Might have been right. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:07, 21 April 2022 (UTC)- That's a whole lot of AGF right there. But I don't disagree with seeing how it plays out. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 15:03, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- Will be away from keyboard if the actually file complaint. I'll be back later on . --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:06, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- Damn. Some of the sources do say Russian. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:41, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- Has a nationality dispute ever been easy? -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 15:47, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- Yuriy was a big guy - you wouldn't want him to PUNCHES YOU IN THE FACE XD!!!! Girth Summit (blether) 17:29, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- No thanks. I've already had one. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:32, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- Born in Russia, grew up in Ukraine, threw heavy things around for the Soviet Union, retired to France. Could we get away with just saying 'European' do you think... ? Girth Summit (blether) 17:39, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- Yah. My thoughts exactly. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:43, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- If all men are brothers, why is Peter Gabriel so sad? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xZmlUV8muY --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:46, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- I will go to THAT swingding. BusterD (talk) 17:59, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- Is nogoodnick after all --Deepfriedokra (talk) 09:26, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- I will go to THAT swingding. BusterD (talk) 17:59, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- If all men are brothers, why is Peter Gabriel so sad? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xZmlUV8muY --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:46, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- Yah. My thoughts exactly. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:43, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- Born in Russia, grew up in Ukraine, threw heavy things around for the Soviet Union, retired to France. Could we get away with just saying 'European' do you think... ? Girth Summit (blether) 17:39, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- No thanks. I've already had one. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:32, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- Damn. Some of the sources do say Russian. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:41, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- Will be away from keyboard if the actually file complaint. I'll be back later on . --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:06, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- That's a whole lot of AGF right there. But I don't disagree with seeing how it plays out. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 15:03, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- I mean I guess I'll co-sign a recall request.[Joke] But uh... Guess it's good we don't have to deal with them hopping all over the /64 now. Although of course it's evasion if one wants to go down that route... -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 15:00, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- it 's too late, you' re POV-pusher, not admin... Levvi1an (talk) 14:56, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
A heads up
I noticed that you had some interaction with a couple of users over the past month (User talk:Paintedgoatturd and User talk:50.246.108.45) who may be connected to User talk:50.225.122.226 who is (was?) a sock of Bagofscrews. The 50.225.122.226 IP showed up in a watchlist and looking at the edits, the other two appear to be connected. I haven't taken anything to AN/I or added to the sock investigation yet - I thought I'd see if anything else comes up. But since I saw your interaction with these other two, I thought I'd mention it to you. They have a tendency to edit the same articles repeatedly with nonsense. ButlerBlog (talk) 18:43, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
- Might want to report at SPI. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:31, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
- I probably will do that sooner rather than later. ButlerBlog (talk) 22:34, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
Yuhitsyourgirlyuh
"Yu hits your girl yuh" - is that how you read that username, or what's the point in your reblock? Widr (talk) 21:09, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Widr:Yes. I found that disruptive and meriting a username block and needful of a change to a constructive user name should they wish to edit.. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:13, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
- Okay. I read is as "Yuh its your girl yuh" - doesn't really matter though, end result is the same. Widr (talk) 21:18, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
- To each their own. Probably moot given their "style." --Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:20, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
- Indeed. Carry on! :-) Widr (talk) 21:22, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
- To each their own. Probably moot given their "style." --Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:20, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
- Okay. I read is as "Yuh its your girl yuh" - doesn't really matter though, end result is the same. Widr (talk) 21:18, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
Just an FYI, User:22funny is repeating edits[8] made by WP:BKFIP so looks like a case of WP:EVADE. Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 14:50, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks. Kinda thought someone was missing a sock. Neatly folded and put in drawer by AmandaNP. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:52, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
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WeatherSTEM, Inc. page content deleted, please restore
Our company page was just deleted for WeatherSTEM, Inc. I believe this was done by mistake, we are not promoting a person or product, we are just giving information on the company and founder. How can I get this back up and running? Can you please be more specific on what needs to be removed or changed in the content? — Preceding unsigned comment added by WeatherSTEM, Inc. (talk • contribs) 13:45, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
- Replied on user's talk page. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:06, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
defeedme
Hi I waited over 24hrs like you suggested to submit another unblock request but the system still does not allow it. this is my submission: Hi Deepfriedokra, my edits merited a block because I was unaware the historic link jonesbeach.com would be a problem - it was on the wiki page for Jones Beach Theater for almost 20 years with no problems at all. It is a useful site that has been used by millions since 1998, it is the original and only Jones Beach / Jones Beach Theater link for many years. I asked politely & requested to add the link as an independent guide at the bottom in external links but ohnoitsjamie failed to respond. I'm sorry if I misinterpreted that failure. What I would do differently now is never add that link to wikipedia. Constructive edits I would like to do going forward would be to use my 40 years of experience working at Jones Beach to add useful historic photos and information related to the Jones Beach Theater, Jones Beach State Park and any other Jones Beach type articles. I also have knowledge on many other topics as well that I will make useful contributions for. thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.92.27.137 (talk) 14:25, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- Well, give it another 24 hours. You may have reset the clock. However, I don't see this as addressing the unblock requirements I gave you. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:28, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- @AmandaNP: If you could have a look? It's UTRS appeal #57574 --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:30, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- The system is designed to prevent second appeals for 48 hours, aka 2 days. Not 24 hours. -- Amanda (she/her) 16:16, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- @AmandaNP: If you could have a look? It's UTRS appeal #57574 --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:30, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- ok thanks I addressed each of the 3 items you asked me to. is there something else I need to address? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.92.27.137 (talk) 15:02, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- OK, well, if you feel satisfied, then please try again >48 hrs after the last one. Sorry for my confusion as to duration of the lock-out. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 06:44, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
- Hi, no problem nobody is perfect.. I submitted the appeal yesterday but it seems to be in limbo? 73.0.31.205 (talk) 09:04, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
- Sometimes it takes longer than we like. Crushing work loads and limited people. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 09:17, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
- Hi, no problem nobody is perfect.. I submitted the appeal yesterday but it seems to be in limbo? 73.0.31.205 (talk) 09:04, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
- OK, well, if you feel satisfied, then please try again >48 hrs after the last one. Sorry for my confusion as to duration of the lock-out. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 06:44, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
I just noticed you blocked a user from editing a related article ([[9]]). The article I cite in the title above has been vandalized by no less than four different accounts recently, all being created a short time before going on their run of vandalism. I'm suspecting sockpuppetry with all these accounts, one of which has been blocked indefinitely ([[10]]), with a report filed at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Lysimtmyblig. This rash of vandalism at the same articles under different accounts can't simply be a coincidence. MPFitz1968 (talk) 06:27, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
- @MPFitz1968: Indeed. You might want to report at WP:SPI. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 06:29, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks. Looks hit-and-run. I placed some partial blocks and made some protections. I doubt the accounts I blocked mean to return. I'll be awake until I'm not, so feel free to ping me if more is needed. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 06:43, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
your suggestion about me
Hello Deepfriedokra, I am not connected to the article Charlie Anne Xavier , I am not the husband as you suggested , I am 16 years old !! and I am sending this message here to not create any more insult comments of that articles of deletion, but I know I will be labeled something bad , because I expressed compassion and called about the bad behavior, I just ask that you as a more senior editor, can see how many editors in there lost their way on their opinions, that is all. I am deleting my account, since Wikipedia is clearly not a place that promotes kindness and positivity. Wishing you all the best . Cvillexpert (talk) 11:05, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Cvillexpert: Sorry, calling bullshit. There was no bad behavior to call out. It is not bad behavior to say that the subject of an article does not meet notability, that the sources are poor, and that the article reads like a promo piece. And, forgive my doubting your claims here, but you don't need to be an English major (as I once was) or to have experience in sock puppet investigations (as I have) to spot the plot holes and inconsistencies in your narrative. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 12:52, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
Please restore Ethan Ralph's protection
And please make it indefinite. Vandalism has shot up since it expired. Really I recommend blue lock, but that's at your discretion, but we at least need indefinite gray lock. Psiĥedelisto (talk • contribs) please always ping! 08:25, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Psiĥedelisto: SP, four months. ECP was tempting. Let me know if it starts up again or if ECP is needed. I more than doubled the duration from the last time, so it's a big increase. I'll add it to my watch list. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 09:15, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
- I'm unfortunately sure it will, so see you in four months ;-) Psiĥedelisto (talk • contribs) please always ping! 09:42, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
Revdel request at Sofia Banzhaf
I would appreciate revdel of the followings: [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16]. Serious BLP violations. Dr.Pinsky (talk) 14:36, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
- Done --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:14, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks. Dr.Pinsky (talk) 15:36, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
- U R welcome! --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:41, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks. Dr.Pinsky (talk) 15:36, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
IP at Abdulrahman Ibrahim Ibn Sori
You asked to be informed if the IP editing the page Abdulrahman Ibrahim Ibn Sori got around the block you instituted April 30. They did today, as 2600:387:F:4710:0:0:0:8. Agricolae (talk) 02:54, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- Fully protected Looks like a content dispute, and she has added a source (?). --Deepfriedokra (talk) 03:05, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
186.96.209.91 back as 186.96.209.67
Hi! On 1 April you blocked 186.96.209.91 for a week. It appears that this editor has returned as 186.96.209.67, based on the very similar nonconstructive edits to the same related set of articles, as well as the nearly identical strange messages that both IPs added to their talk pages (here and here). CodeTalker (talk) 17:11, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
Trying to find a sandbox space for our young friend Carlos
Hey there. He's still talking to me and I've made it pretty tough to do so. So I'm still in too. Normally I would mentor someone on sandbox or draft space but I'm not ready to endorse any additional user rights yet, talk privileges still being temporary. Today we're working in talkspace. Any ideas? BusterD (talk) 17:03, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
- You are way ahead of me on this one. Way outta my league! You have something I lack, an intuitive feel for others and nuanced conversation. I get by via emulation, rehearsal, practice, and more rehearsal. I wish we could selectively un-partial block. That way we could give someone their sand box. Here's a dangerous thought, and it would be out of scope for Meta, so the folks there might not like it. Perhaps he could edit META:User:Carletteyt/sandbox? I sometimes send UTRSers to my META talk to verify UTRS tickets. Haven't been stopped yet. Though the admins there might block out-of-hand. Better to ask and risk denial or boldly go and then apologize? Again, going into the blind zone. Hope this helps. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:30, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
- I have heard several suggestions they might better edit es.wiki or si.wiki but I'm not sending a problem somewhere else. I tried creating a talk/sandbox and they can't edit. I guess we can continue in talkspace. I'm going to give him some extra time today, but I have RL stuff to do as well. Appreciate your head on this stuff. BusterD (talk) 17:34, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
Revdel request at Tigray Defense Forces
Possible copyright violation [17]. Dr.Pinsky (talk) 17:17, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
- I get myself into trouble on possible copy vio's. It does not look as such to me. Will ask someone better than I. @DanCherek: Hey! is this a COPYVIO? Cheers --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:41, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
- Hey DFO, thanks for the ping! Yes it is – I was coincidentally just looking at this (it was also flagged by the copyright bot [18][19]). I've gone ahead and requested revdel. Hope you're doing well! DanCherek (talk) 17:45, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
- Better all the time. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:47, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
- It is done! --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:53, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
- Much appreciated. Dr.Pinsky (talk) 17:56, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
- It is done! --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:53, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
- Better all the time. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:47, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
- Hey DFO, thanks for the ping! Yes it is – I was coincidentally just looking at this (it was also flagged by the copyright bot [18][19]). I've gone ahead and requested revdel. Hope you're doing well! DanCherek (talk) 17:45, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
Beg a boon of thee
Could you add Vicki Iseman and John McCain lobbyist controversy to your watchlist? I think those pages will blow up this week, based on the attempted insertion of a primary source from a connected person in the last few hours. This issue will be on cable news, guaranteed. (not the insertion, but the controversy) BusterD (talk) 10:18, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
- How delightful! Done --Deepfriedokra (talk) 12:39, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
- @BusterD: Let the onslaught begin! --Deepfriedokra (talk) 12:54, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
- Surprised it started so late. There's sex, an active lobbyist, a dead national hero, and his daughter the tv personality. I expect somebody to write a tawdry book on this stuff. By lunchtime we'll have reliable secondaries discussing the substack and the twitter war. I'm shocked Politico or TheHill isn't already all over this. BusterD (talk) 13:08, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
- Besides the primary source, so far I see Salon and NY Mag. Earlier I saw MSN, but not seeing it now. This is marginal coverage. I don't recognize Pajiba but they may meet RS. Business Insider I can't trust and Yahoo News is Yahoo News. I'm expecting MSNBC to feature this stuff during primetime tonight. Cable news loves stories about sex and politics and now we have the first public evidence (an admission of complicity) of the affair between the lobbyist and the senator. Juicy material for TV. Expect lots of still stock photos but no real examination. Our coverage to date has been pretty solid and our deletion processes are fully transparent. BusterD (talk) 21:30, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
- After the prior lawsuit, perhaps they do not wish to rush in. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:11, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
- Certainly puts the NYT staff contributor's 2009 statement in some perspective. The Times doesn't normally make public statements on wikipedia talk pages. The Iseman article was written while I was actually watching live as I said in one of the deletion discussions. It was a new experience to me. Seems like a lifetime ago. User:Wasted Time R is still around. Many of the others (but not all) have long since left the project. BusterD (talk) 13:36, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
- I took this to BLP/N. People need to be aware. These pages will be getting lots of views soon. BusterD (talk) 22:37, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
- And the winner is: Joy Reid of Reid Out at 7:47pm EDT. A teasing reference, intended to bolster the "Republicans sure like Russian oligarchs" meme (which Schmidt also covers in his Substack, the act, not the meme). I'm guessing they're saving sex for later in primetime. BusterD (talk) 23:53, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
- I doubt the lobbyist angle will get much attention now – it's old news and she was a lobbyist for domestic telecom companies, not Russian oligarchs (as the disjointed Schmidt substack seems to imply). Wasted Time R (talk) 00:06, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
- Sounds like a lot more mentions for Schmidt's blog or whatever than he would have gotten without the breaking-news edits sourced to it. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 01:00, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
- I doubt the lobbyist angle will get much attention now – it's old news and she was a lobbyist for domestic telecom companies, not Russian oligarchs (as the disjointed Schmidt substack seems to imply). Wasted Time R (talk) 00:06, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
- And the winner is: Joy Reid of Reid Out at 7:47pm EDT. A teasing reference, intended to bolster the "Republicans sure like Russian oligarchs" meme (which Schmidt also covers in his Substack, the act, not the meme). I'm guessing they're saving sex for later in primetime. BusterD (talk) 23:53, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
- I took this to BLP/N. People need to be aware. These pages will be getting lots of views soon. BusterD (talk) 22:37, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
- Certainly puts the NYT staff contributor's 2009 statement in some perspective. The Times doesn't normally make public statements on wikipedia talk pages. The Iseman article was written while I was actually watching live as I said in one of the deletion discussions. It was a new experience to me. Seems like a lifetime ago. User:Wasted Time R is still around. Many of the others (but not all) have long since left the project. BusterD (talk) 13:36, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
- Surprised it started so late. There's sex, an active lobbyist, a dead national hero, and his daughter the tv personality. I expect somebody to write a tawdry book on this stuff. By lunchtime we'll have reliable secondaries discussing the substack and the twitter war. I'm shocked Politico or TheHill isn't already all over this. BusterD (talk) 13:08, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
- @BusterD: Let the onslaught begin! --Deepfriedokra (talk) 12:54, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
Zenica
Please check this diff /arch., alt. arch./ (maybe compare with other revisions after edit wars) before speedily reverting seemingly weird contrib. Thanks. --5.43.77.122 (talk) 23:59, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
- Well, this certainly is seemingly weird, and as this IP is blocked, weirder still --Deepfriedokra (talk) 00:57, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
Discussion at WP:THQ § Posting wrong info
You are invited to join the discussion at WP:THQ § Posting wrong info. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:51, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
- Hi Deepfriedokra. I'm just letting you know about this as a courtesy. The only article this user has tried to edit so far has been Nilesh Dnyandev Lanke and I'm assuming that their Teahouse post is somehow related to what happened there. Since you've blocked the user from further editing the article, perhaps you're the best person to try and explain the reason why they ae blocked and what their options (e.g. edit requests via the article's talk page) are moving forward. I know you've already done this on their user talk page, but perhaps you could also clarify things at the Teahouse. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:58, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for your post at the Teahouse. Hopefully, the OP will follow your advice and use the article's talk page to request changes. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:54, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
- I live in hope. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 01:04, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for your post at the Teahouse. Hopefully, the OP will follow your advice and use the article's talk page to request changes. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:54, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
Autopatrolled
Hi DFO - I can give you a bit more on this. When a regular editor creates a new article, it gets that no index tag, so that search indexes don't pick it up, and the article goes into the Special:NewPagesFeed - basically a filtered queue of new articles. New Page Patrollers work the queue, giving the articles a once over to ensure it's not an attack page, spam, replicating something we've already got, etc, or if the subject is non-notable. If it passes muster, it will get marked as 'reviewed', which takes it out of the queue and removes the 'no index' tag. (If an article goes for 90 days without being reviewed, it automatically gets the tag removed.) Editors with a long track record of producing high-quality articles can be given the 'autopatrolled' flag. Articles created by them are assumed not to need a going over, they don't go into the queue and they don't get the no index tag. It makes no difference at all to the autopatrolled person's editing experience - it's about saving the NPPs' time, nothing more. Hope that helps. Girth Summit (blether) 13:46, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
- As I thought. The reason given for autopatrolled seemed odd. Cheers, --Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:54, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
Sockpuppetry question
So, I've come across two accounts that i think are sockpuppets. One is blocked permanently and the other is not. Should I report the one that is not blocked or just let it go? Dinosaur TrexXX33 (chat?) 18:08, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
- Report at WP:SPI --Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:18, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks! Dinosaur TrexXX33 (chat?) 18:39, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
Sparta Battalion protection
Hi Deepfriedokra, thank you for your interest in the article Sparta Battalion. Just wanted to warn you that the latest revert[20] was done by a newly created account[21] that is participating after only a few contributions in several hot issues, such as participating in an RFC to remove the Azov battalion as "neo-Nazi",[22] or by removing parts with sources covering negative aspects of Ukrainian President Zelensky.[23] After only 6 contributions on Wikipedia they already know some keywords like WP:DUE, that's curious...[24] Maybe there is nothing strange and it is a user who learns everything quickly (it took me 5 years to understand something, maybe I'm not that smart :)). Could you consider removing the block? Thank you, see you soon.--Mhorg (talk) 09:40, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Mhorg: Thank you for your interest in Sparta Battalion. Is it really so onerous to leave it at the wrong version for a couple of days? I take it you wish to restore your preferred version, but what will you do when someone reverts you? Please discuss content and sourcing on the article talk page. If you suspect sock puppets, please report at WP:SPI. If there are conduct issues, please report at WP:AN. (I have absolutely no interest in that article. I protected it because there was edit warring, which is disruptive.) Please feel free to request unprotection. Please tell them I declined on my talk page. @Volunteer Marek: I value your insight.
- It won't persuade me to INVOLVE myself, but perhaps you can offer guidance to Mhong. Best. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:30, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
- Update. This revert -->[25] (current version) has been done by a confirmed sock-puppet.- GizzyCatBella🍁 16:46, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
- How-- delightful. Well, as I'm neutral and as this was the sock of a previous blockee, I can revert to the last version. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:55, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
- You don’t have to. This was just an update. The agreement should be reached first. - GizzyCatBella🍁 16:57, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
- True. Leave it be. That's my motto. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:58, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
- It looked like an edit war largely after reverts by this person [26][27] who has been blocked for socking. I think you should remove the protection altogether but impose semi-protection on both Vladimor Zhoga and Sparta Battalion because page protection wasn't needed in the first place if it weren't for reverts by sock. Thanks. Jhy.rjwk (talk) 02:20, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Jhy.rjwk: It's pretty clear there was edit warring among other users. The blocked sock was a relative newcomer. I mean, it's all right there in the edit history. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:34, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Jhy.rjwk: Here's a thought-- if you wish to make an edit that does not mean restoring your preferred version, please make an edit request on the talk page. BTW, FP expires tomorrow. Hopefully, waiting won't be too onerous. Meanwhile, perhaps a consensus will emerge on the talk page. Best --Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:40, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Jhy.rjwk: It's pretty clear there was edit warring among other users. The blocked sock was a relative newcomer. I mean, it's all right there in the edit history. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:34, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
- You don’t have to. This was just an update. The agreement should be reached first. - GizzyCatBella🍁 16:57, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
- How-- delightful. Well, as I'm neutral and as this was the sock of a previous blockee, I can revert to the last version. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:55, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
- Update. This revert -->[25] (current version) has been done by a confirmed sock-puppet.- GizzyCatBella🍁 16:46, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
Revedel request on Kaidō
Definitely copyright infringement: [28] [29]. Copied from [30]. Thanks. Dr.Pinsky (talk) 18:23, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
Legal
Hi there. Regarding your comment re: WP:NLT, my interpretation of the policy is that WP doesnt care if legal action is being taken, as long as it's not brought up in WP discussions. Further, it doesn't seem that WP cares if the case is just or frivolous, or if people make their decision to file (or not) because of money (or lack thereof). Cheers.—Bagumba (talk) 02:49, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
- Legal threats are wrong because they have a chilling effect. One should not not make them because they should choose the more collegial approach of Dispute resolution. Best. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 03:09, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
- clarified. I hope. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 03:13, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
- we don't really know if he called a lawyer or not. But for next time, he should not the right, wiki way. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 03:15, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
- Oh, I think you meant it was the "wrong reason" for an unblock, while I originally interpreted your comment as a commentary on their decision to not pursue legal action because of money.—Bagumba (talk) 03:50, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah. I phrased it badly. I really think they need to learn how to resolve disputes without all the histrionics and melodrama. I think that was the root cause that went unaddressed at ANI. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 03:52, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, I had tried to nudge both parties to focus on content at the original AN3 thread, but it continued more as a personal battleground than about the content dispute itself. The other party is not totally blameless, but the community is quick to whack legal threats. Best.—Bagumba (talk) 03:58, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
- I figured they might have been entitled to a boomerang. No one gets that angry without a reason. I figured party of the first part really provoked party of the second part. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 04:06, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, I had tried to nudge both parties to focus on content at the original AN3 thread, but it continued more as a personal battleground than about the content dispute itself. The other party is not totally blameless, but the community is quick to whack legal threats. Best.—Bagumba (talk) 03:58, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah. I phrased it badly. I really think they need to learn how to resolve disputes without all the histrionics and melodrama. I think that was the root cause that went unaddressed at ANI. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 03:52, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
- Oh, I think you meant it was the "wrong reason" for an unblock, while I originally interpreted your comment as a commentary on their decision to not pursue legal action because of money.—Bagumba (talk) 03:50, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
- we don't really know if he called a lawyer or not. But for next time, he should not the right, wiki way. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 03:15, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
- clarified. I hope. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 03:13, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
2603,.6011.,DF01
This person who you blocked from certain pages is back doing disruptive editing. I know who it is. He has been blocked many times using different ip addresses. Thank you Doriden (talk) 14:29, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
Jersey City Fire Department
His latest nonsense was the Jersey City Fire Department page. Doriden (talk) 14:30, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
Cease
Please stop with these disruptive editing. I am calling for your full block.Doriden (talk)\
Sorry I thought that I was writing to the disruptive editor. Doriden (talk) 14:36, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
Sorry
I thought I was writing to the disruptive editor Doriden (talk) 14:37, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
Same person
His latest disruptive editing was Jersey City Fire Department page. Thank you Doriden (talk) 14:40, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
You know the person
Sorry to bother you again, you banned him because of Timothy LeDuc, Kevin Conroy, and The Land That Time Forgot. Please assist, his last disruptive editing today Jersey City Fire Department page. I put it back to the way it was previously. The ip address he is using is the one you blocked him from certain pages, the ones I mentioned. Please assist, Thanks again, Doriden (talk) 15:03, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
NeverTry4Me
Any chance you can connect with them in a way @Bonadea and I are failing? They're now removing Bonadea's absolutely valid decline. I'm definitely Involved as original AfD closer, but I feel like they're continuing to push the edges on this article for reasons. Any suggestions? Thanks either way. Star Mississippi 20:29, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
- Meh. We'lll see if that works. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:01, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you! I do not get his laser focus on this one. Star Mississippi 21:10, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
- Decline reasons:
- Most are press releases. Answer: Without reading the news, it was said. The news is not press releases at all.
- the ISBN is for the electronic edition. Answer: Electronic editions are not source?
- Most are press releases. Answer: Without reading the news, it was said. The news is not press releases at all.
- Above all, no third party source cites the entire article. Sources were well added to support each sentence. - Signed by NeverTry4Me Talk 21:23, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
- @NeverTry4Me:
Without reading the news, it was said.
Well, it is important that you do read the sources before you add them. That many of the newspaper sources in the draft are press releases is a fact.Electronic editions are not source?
Read the comment again. It says nothing about electronic editions not being sources. And you have resubmitted again without bothering to add basic information about the book sources, despite a detailed explanation. --bonadea contributions talk 22:20, 19 May 2022 (UTC)- I have submitted after adding and editing the sources. - Signed by NeverTry4Me Talk 22:27, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
- It also says Please do not remove reviewer comments or this notice until the submission is accepted. If you persist in editing disruptively on this article, you will lose access to editing it. I suggest you listen to what everyone but you is saying. Star Mississippi 00:26, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
- @NeverTry4Me:
re this
There's no COI/paid there, they're just a crazy fanboy who is now campaigning on Twitter to have people revert and harass me in particular. PRAXIDICAE💕 20:29, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
- He is heading for an indefinite block. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:30, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
- IMO, " crazy fanboy" is a conflict of interest. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:31, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
- I got a notification bc my username was mentioned and saw this among other things. PRAXIDICAE💕 20:31, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
- I trust you know how to deal with that better than I. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:34, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Anachronist: Think we need to indef. Please see above. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:36, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
- Can you up it to ECP at least? PRAXIDICAE💕 20:44, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
- Not seeing vandalism from autoconfirmed. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:47, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
- Watched page --Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:48, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
- Not seeing vandalism from autoconfirmed. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:47, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
- Can you up it to ECP at least? PRAXIDICAE💕 20:44, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Anachronist: Think we need to indef. Please see above. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:36, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
- I trust you know how to deal with that better than I. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:34, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
I prefer to wait until the block expires to see if this SPA editor actually tries to collaborate by discussing improvements on the talk page. If the editor doesn't take advantage of this one chance or redemption (because I've seen instances in the past where a disruptive new editor became a good contributor), then I'll gladly indef.
@Praxidicae: Off-wiki canvassing to disrupt articles attracts anonymous IP addresses or unconfirmed accounts, not experienced editors, so ECP isn't needed. Deepfriedokra has already semi-protected it, which will prevent this disruption. ~Anachronist (talk) 23:08, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
What disruptive editing are you talking about?
Dear Deepfriedokra,
In the Article "World War II casualties of the Soviet Union" there are two figures added by colonel Sergey Il'enkov Head of the Russian Defense Ministry Archive Service: one of 1996, the other of 2001. References 10 and 11. 21 years have passed and I have added Mr. Il'enkov's figures of 2021 published in The Novaya Gazeta with its Editor-in-Chief having been awarded Nobel Peace Prize of 2021. One must be a very unprofessional editor to have labeled it a "persistent disruptive editing". In fact the new discoveries by colonel Il'enkov of 2021 must completely substitute those of 1996 and 2001 which are looking awkward now. Kindly put back my contribution:
But now the same Sergey Il'enkov and Vladimir Eliseev, long-term employees of CDMA, processed this file for many years and counted 23.5 million cards as a result, and excluding duplicates, 21.3 million people whose individual deaths are documented in one way or another. It does not reflect materials from other departmental archives (for example, the naval one, where there are about 150 thousand people in a similar card index). So they believe we can talk about 21.5 million killed or dead military personnel. [1]
Kind Regards,
Professional historian and editor Въ 109.252.188.39 (talk) 18:28, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- You should probably discuss content and sourcing on the article talk page. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:54, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- There is no topic for discussion on the article talk page. There remains the same sourcing - Sergey Il'enkov from CDMA, but enriched in the course of 21 years by new data. History is a developing science. Do not try to thwart its development. Otherwise there is a strong impression of editing on the payroll of the Russian Defense Ministry which generals wish to keep the Soviet military losses under their caps as those in the present Ukraine. At present it looks like editing for 30 pieces of silver. Въ 109.252.188.39 (talk) 20:38, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- Well, as Wikipedia is a collaborative project, I'm not sure that is a collaborative attitude. No idea why you are telling me this. I have no interest in that article. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:47, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- Dear Deepfriedokra,
- “You are not supposed to know these figures”, said in a live TV talk show of Vladimir Pozner “Времена” ("Times") President of the Academy of Military Sciences General of the Army M.A. Gareev, defending Krivosheev’s casualties figures. That means, dear EnWiki editors and readers, that you are also being deprived of true figures as those of the present Russian military losses in the Ukraine.
- If Wikipedia really is a collaborative project let us collaborate in chasing away all payed Putin's bots. Any doubts there are such guys?
- Well, contribute yourself the same passage (you have deleted) in RuWiki and see how many minutes it will be in the Article after Согласно современным данным, демографические потери СССР составили 25—27 млн человек[⇨].in the second line:
- Сергей Ильенков и Владимир Елисеев — многолетние сотрудники ЦАМО — много лет обрабатывали эту картотеку и насчитали в итоге 23,5 млн карточек, а за вычетом дублетов — 21,3 млн человек, чья индивидуальная смерть так или иначе задокументирована. Здесь не отражены материалы других ведомственных архивов (например, военно-морского, где в аналогичной картотеке — около 150 тыс. человек), так что можно говорить о 21,5 млн убитых или погибших военнослужащих. [2]
- If any Russian historian does it is sure to disappear in 30 minutes. The watchdogs are always at their work.
- In the EnWiki the result is the same, but comes slower. Your watchdogs are chasing away any truth on the Soviet military losses in WWII.
- Are 30 pieces of silver enough? Въ 109.252.188.39 (talk) 13:26, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
- Well, as Wikipedia is a collaborative project, I'm not sure that is a collaborative attitude. No idea why you are telling me this. I have no interest in that article. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:47, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- There is no topic for discussion on the article talk page. There remains the same sourcing - Sergey Il'enkov from CDMA, but enriched in the course of 21 years by new data. History is a developing science. Do not try to thwart its development. Otherwise there is a strong impression of editing on the payroll of the Russian Defense Ministry which generals wish to keep the Soviet military losses under their caps as those in the present Ukraine. At present it looks like editing for 30 pieces of silver. Въ 109.252.188.39 (talk) 20:38, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
FYI, ANI thread
Hi Deepfriedokra, just so you know, I mentioned you in Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Mohammad asfaq. Thanks for blocking them from Paramardi – I appreciate your starting with a minimally harsh block, but I'm afraid the same behaviour has continued elsewhere. I had already started composing an ANI thread yesterday before your block but didn't post it then, so I updated and posted it now (that's why I didn't just drop a note here. After all I had already compiled all that evidence :-) ) --bonadea contributions talk 09:22, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
Sr Benedicta Ward
Dear user, I was sorry to see that you had removed my edits re the date of death of Sr Benedicta Ward. I did in fact get the date wrong as I misread the date on my desktop calendar. She died peacefully at Fairacres Convent yesterday morning, 23 May 2022. I am the editor of SLG Press and work at the convent. The announcement of her death is confirmed by St Stephens House in Oxford via their FaceBook page. I would be glad if you could reinstate the edits with the revised date of death and then delete my name from this post. Thank you. Julia Craig-McFeely, Editor, SLG Press, Fairacres Convent, Oxford. Julia.cmcf (talk) 10:51, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
- ^ "Унесенные смертью Сколько же советских людей было убито в Великой Отечественной?" The Novaya Gazeta, May 14, 2021 https://novayagazeta.ru/articles/2021/05/14/unesennye-smertiu?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com
- ^ "Унесенные смертью Сколько же советских людей было убито в Великой Отечественной?"