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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 1 Dec 2021

Gilgit-Baltistan has been given the status of a province. Pakistan now has five provinces. Please update the article to reflect this. [reference] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.162.187.138 (talk) 15:49, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Kautilya3, shouldn't this new information be incorporate into the article? – Uanfala (talk) 21:26, 4 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This is not new information. The article is from December 2020. It is covered in a single sentence (the last) in the Inside Pakistan section. I don't know what else to say unless something actually happens. (The OP is wrong to claim that it "has been given" the status of a province. It was promised. Something called a "provisional province" status.) -- Kautilya3 (talk) 22:15, 4 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Uanfala (talk) Gilgit-Baltistan has not been awarded the status of province yet. The region is not even a provisional province of Pakistan. There had been talks for elevating it to a provisional constitutional province of Pakistan which were concluded without taking any decision, the status of G-B is thus not changed so far, and it is still in the limbo. -- Kazmi¹¹²² 13:37, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Princely state of Jammu and Kashmir

I placed a POV template on this section (formerly called "Dogra rule") since it covers a narrow POV of one area only (Baltistan). All the areas shown in the map need to be covered. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 14:37, 5 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Change heights from feet to meters

In the Mountaineering section, values of heights should be in meters (the SI unit) not feet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.241.230.45 (talk) 14:57, 8 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"Etymology of Gilgit–Baltistan" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Etymology of Gilgit–Baltistan. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 December 11#Etymology of Gilgit–Baltistan until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. — kashmīrī ^TALK 23:07, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Current Political Status of Gilgit-Baltistan

Gilgit-Baltistan should be described as a dependent territory of Pakistan rather than as an administrative territory of Pakistan. The presently used term "administrative territory" implies that Gilgit-Baltistan is already part of Pakistan, which is clearly not the case. The Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA), on the other hand, was previously an administrative territory of Pakistan before its incorporation into the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Province and, as such, it was an integral part of Pakistan. Gilgit-Baltistan, however, is dependent upon Pakistan and is under Pakistani sovereignty but is not yet legally part of Pakistan. Under the Pakistani constitution, Pakistan currently consists only of five first-order administrative divisions -- the four provinces of Balochistan, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Punjab, and Sindh, and the Islamabad Capital Territory. In order for Gilgit-Baltistan to became a full-fledged province or even a provisional province of Pakistan, the Pakistani constitution needs to be amended, an action which clearly has not yet taken place. Atelerixia (talk) 01:51, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merge of Trakhan dynasty into Gilgit and History of Gilgit-Baltistan

Moved to Talk:Gilgit § Proposed merge of Trakhan dynasty into Gilgit and History of Gilgit-Baltistan

– TrangaBellam (talk) 17:45, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Repeated wikilinking in lead

I was going to be WP:BOLD and just make some changes myself, but this article is obviously controversial and I do not want to violate any possible consensus achieved in the past that I am unaware of. So, just a quick question for anyone who may have the answer: is there any reason there is repeated wikilinking in the lead of this article? Internal links that direct readers to other articles such as Azad Kashmir, Jammu and Kashmir, Ladakh, Kashmir, Kashmir conflict, as well as some others that I removed in my most recent edit on this page (e.g. "Pakistan" was linked multiple times in the first two or three paragraphs). I have no problems if this phenomenon is intentional, but I am seeking to clean it up if it is not in light of MOS:OVERLINK. ➤ Zᴇᴇx.ʀɪᴄᴇ ✪ (ᴛᴀʟᴋ) 16:18, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It is just newbie editors trying to do their thing. Please feel free to edit. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 17:01, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Zeex.rice, I have reverted your edits, which have attempted to do much more than stated above, generally interfering with the India-Pakistan consensus on Kashmir of August 2019. Please don't tinker with these pages in such a fashion again. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 01:24, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The big discussion reached consensus for the first sentence of these articles; I'm not sure anybody would have agreed to repeating that sentence further down the lead, or for repeating the main links several times within the lead. – Uanfala (talk) 03:36, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Look at the doozy in the first few sentences of "attempted" above. I'm wise to the conceits of India-POV edits. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 04:35, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I've corrected the lead paragraph in line with the consensus. When people claim to be making gnomish edits but end up making more these problems arise. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 05:48, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

For correcting Actual area of pakistan occupied girgit baltistan.

The actual official area of POK(Gilgit baltistan) is 64,817 km² (28,174 mi²) Not 72000 sq km. Plzz edit the above data. Total area of full j&k is 222,236 sq km. From which JK in india occupied is 101,387 sq km. POK is ( 64,817 + 13,297) 78,114 sq km. Aksai chin is 37,555 sq km. Area given by pakistan to chin in 1962 is 5180 sq km. Plzz administrator correct the above data Ashutosh singh 761980 (talk) 14:54, 17 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The neutral terms are Pakistan-administered Kashmir, India-administered Kashmir, and China-administered Kashmir. For correcting areas, a very reliable source will be needed. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 15:11, 17 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This is correct. The area is 222,236 sq km. I which india administerd kashmir is 101,387 sq km. And pakistan admisters area is 78,114 sq km. Where as china has occupied 37,555 sq km & 5180 sq km which was given by pakistan to china in 1962. Ashutosh singh 761980 (talk) 16:35, 18 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I understand you to say that, but we need reliable sources, preferably scholarly ones, to support those claims. Also, Indian or Pakistani governments will not do, we need third-party sources that state that. Please supply the source(s) (or references/citations) here. Thank you. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 17:36, 18 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Plzz understand. You are numerically wrong. According to your data J&K area will cross it's actually figure of 222236 sq km. Ashutosh singh 761980 (talk) 04:24, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thank you, I will look into it. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 12:00, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 15 April 2022

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"Gilgit-Baltistan (Hindi:गिलगित-बल्तिस्तान/ˌɡɪlɡɪt ˌbɔːltɪˈstɑːn, -stæn/; Urdu: گلگت بلتستان[10])" Hindi makes pronounciation easier Anneliesmariefrank17 (talk) 17:05, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit extended-protected}} template. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:13, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]