Talk:Emancipation Proclamation

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Shortening the lead

For those looking to fix the overly long lead section: I noticed the 'coverage' section repeats a lot of things already mentioned in the lead. Someone should probably weed out all the repeated information. Omegastar (talk) 23:24, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Who the Hell is Kal Ashraf?

Making sure sources of information or even opinion are legitimate and appropriate can be crucial on articles especially those of historical importance. In the Critique section on the article of the Emancipation Proclamation an editor has put there that "Kal Ashraf wrote:" followed by a brief quote.I like everyone else who read this part asked who is Kal Ashraf and a google search returned zero results. After more research I finally found the article at hand through Jstor. The piece quoted is a half page editorial/news letter. Kal Ashraf and his work on the Emancipation Proclamation are not in anyway up to standards in reliability or importance necessary for the subject or for the ethical dissemination of fact and information that Wikipedia stands for. Kal Ashraf name and statement which are featured on the article need to be removed and replaced with a more substantial and legitimate scholar on the subject. Wikieditwiki201 (talk) 07:24, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 19:17, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Any information on who Kal Ashraf is? He certainly isn’t a household name that does not need prefacing. Thriley (talk) 04:02, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Danish on the page?

Why is the Danish translation of “ The text of the Preliminary Emancipation Declaration,” near the top of the page? Bilgerat78 (talk) 04:09, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

@Bilgerat78:, the template for the infobox has a parameter called "longtitle" and if that parameter is blank it pulls the value from the Title parameter of the corresponding Wikidata item. Some process or person populated the Title in Wikidata with the translated title from the Danish Wikipedia, for reasons I won't pretend to understand, and that got imported into this infobox. I removed the Title item in Wikidata and added "[none]" for the infobox parameter value to prevent Wikidata nonsense from re-populating it here. Call it reason # 311,874,619 for "Why Wikipedia should not accept automatically populated information from other projects." Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 16:51, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

blows rassbraress

YOU ARE A IDOIT — Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.241.55.59 (talk) 19:26, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

Footnote 11 implies Lost Cause

Footnote 11 is quoted as the EP is historic cuz it "would redefine the Civil War, turning it from a struggle to preserve the Union to one focused on ending slavery, and set a decisive course for how the nation would be reshaped after that historic conflict". This framing has two problems:

1. It doesn't mention that the source History.com article is referring to Lincoln's purpose in the Civil War.

2. It obfuscates that the Union broke in the first place because the South was worried slavery was going to be curtailed, and some readers will assume the original break did not concern slavery because this Lost Cause alternative history is a common narrative even today.