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Humble Request

As you can see, article is totally different than what it was (in hell condition) before. You are more than welcome to edit but please make sure that you do not add news materials and gossips. Thanks, have a happy time. --25 CENTS VICTORIOUS ☣ 12:47, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by Tusharlove

i work for Amrita rao have to edit her personal Bio and carrer cause on wiki its not up to the mark..please help me..its my JOB — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tusharlove (talk • contribs) 18:29, 16 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Could you point out what you feel needs improvement? Remember that all content additions need reliable sources to support them per our verifiability policy. -Ugog Nizdast (talk) 09:44, 17 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Ugog Nizdast::: Her Age..her qualification..and about carrier..and yes i know we need reliable sources and i provide them according toverifiability policy..but tell me what things are needed to edit current page..my job on this bro. Tusharlove (talk) 13:32, 17 February 2015 (UTC) Tusharlove (talk)[reply]
@Ugog Nizdast: please bro tell me i am waiting for your replyTusharlove (talk) 16:05, 18 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry was busy these past few days. Provide the links/references here. Her age is mentioned as 17 June 1981 (age 33) and her qualification as "graduated from Sophia College with a psychology degree." Both of these are referenced already, so what exactly do you want to change? The career section too Amrita Rao#Career seems to be referenced, what exactly do you want to add/change there? -Ugog Nizdast (talk) 10:34, 20 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Ugog Nizdast: hi can we change pic of amrita rao cause she want other pics for wiki.. Tusharlove (talk) 12:27, 8 January 2016(UTC)
@Tusharlove:, what you are doing violates several Wikipedia policies. You have mentioned here on this Talk page that you are employed by Amrita Rao; this constitutes conflict of interest (CoI). As you are being gainfully employed by her or her staff to edit her Wikipedia article, it constitutes paid editing and hence a financial conflict of interest. You may continue editing by declaring the CoI on your profile page, but do ensure you carefully read and follow all Wikipedia guidelines and policies. Among other things you need to use the connected contributor template. -- Rohini (talk) 17:02, 8 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
:: @Rohini:  Help me i want some change as a fan of her i know her personally thats why i ask for some change because this is wikipedia everybody read it and its very trustful that the reason i want all her info to be correct plz help me for that. --  Tusharlove (talk) 17:59, 22 January 2016(UTC)
You mentioned in your first post (dated 17 February 2015) that you work for her, as in, you are employed by her and one of your tasks at the job is to edit the Wikipedia entry by her name. In another post (dated 8 January 2016), you outright mention that Amrita Rao wants photos other than the ones present in the article to be uploaded onto Wikipedia. That also indicates she is reading this page and instructing you about the content to be added or removed. Now you write that you know her personally. Your actions are a gross violation of the policy of conflict of interest. Please refrain from editing the article further. Also, I suggest you read the Wikipedia policy of reliable sources (WP: RS). Any information you contribute to Wikipedia in your personal capacity may not count as a reliable source. It needs to be properly referenced. -- Rohini (talk) 04:50, 31 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Birth date

I have removed the disputed date of birth from the article per WP:DOB. The 1981 date included in the article since April 2016 included an independent though not fantastic source. In June 2018, an editor with a conflict of interest, stating that they were editing on behalf of the actress, began changing the birth year to both 1986 and 1988 without a source. Another editor who has only ever edited Wikipedia to add or change material regarding Amrita Rao then added a link to the subject's own website in support of the 1988 date. Rao had her first starring role in the romance Ab Ke Baras, released in 2002. If the 1988 date added to Rao's website is correct she would have been around 13-years old when filming the lead romantic role in this film (where her character is 18 years old). In The Legend of Bhagat Singh, also released in 2002, Rao played the fiance of the titular Bhagat Singh. The previously sourced birth date of 1981 makes more sense in context with the roles Rao was playing in the beginning of her career, and her own website is not a reliable source as explained in points 1 and 4 of WP:SELFPUB. --Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 20:16, 30 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

See this link [1]. She isn't saying anything clearly. However, 'apart from' indicates, 7 June is correct.

IamKhandelwal (talk) 11:50, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Another source on DOB that can be considered [2]. Times of India at WP:RSP gives us WP:TOI.

Palmsandbeaches (talk) 06:42, 24 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The Times of India link is to their celeb "topic" content, separate from its journalism articles. There's no information as to where they obtain the information and it looks like tertiary database-type info akin to IMDb.-- Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 17:15, 7 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 31 January 2019

Dadasaheb Phalke to Dadasaheb Phalke academy Rowdur94 (talk) 17:19, 31 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:42, 31 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

About movie shaurya mentioned

It was court marshal of hindu officer for killing Muslim officer Mandyrana (talk) 21:25, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done What you are saying is other way around in the movie. Thanks.--25 CENTS VICTORIOUS ☣ 15:53, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 6 June 2020

Correct birthdate is 17th June not 7th June Rushad1369 (talk) 07:29, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

​Please point to a reliable source – Thjarkur (talk) 10:28, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Other Awards Won

@Ponyo: They are about her Carrier which she achieved doesn't understand why that table had been removed because they are important in industry. Hemalove (talk • contribs) 21:55, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Posting non-notable awards is a common form of WP:PUFFERY; there are so many awards handed out in the industry that are given by the studios to promote their "stars" - they're handed out like candy. If there is an award that is not simply a platform for studio promotion, that has a corresponding Wikipedia article demonstrating notability, and that is supported by reliable sources, then it can be added on a case-by-case basis. -- Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 22:20, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Expansion

I am taking other articles help like Shilpa Shetty, Karisma Kapoor etc to expand the article. Help is mostly related to sentence format. Thanks--25 CENTS VICTORIOUS 🍁 18:36, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It feels like a hardcore fan of or someone closely related to Amrita Rao is trying to portray her more than she has had in her career. I have removed files/ contents which have no significance whatsoever. Thanks. 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS 🍁 13:56, 30 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

Passed BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 14:07, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Reviewer: BennyOnTheLoose (talk · contribs) 08:59, 14 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]


GA review
(see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose, spelling, and grammar):
    b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references):
    b (citations to reliable sources):
    c (OR):
    d (copyvio and plagiarism):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects):
    b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.: Some recent reverts, but no warring IMO.
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales):
    b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

Overall:
Pass/Fail:

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Happy to discuss, or be challenged on, any of my review comments. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 08:59, 14 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot for taking up the review. I would try to fix all issue raised. --25 CENTS VICTORIOUS 🍁 17:26, 14 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Copyvio check - I reviewed all matches over 7.5% from Earwig's Copyvio detector. No concerns - one repeated sentence that looks like possibly a backwards-copy, rest is titles and attributed quotes.
  • Images - rather surprising that the infobox pic, which looks like it's from a photoshoot would be uploaded CC with no real credit. Date of the pic in the summary doesn't match metadata. I tried a reverse image search but found nothing conclusive. Are you satisfied that it's free to use? Could add alt text for infobox pic (assuming it's retained). Captions and positioning are fine.
 Fixed Changed year to metadata i.e 2019. Cannot find more image as an option for infobox pic. Considering quality, have added this one.
I'll assume good faith on the part of the uploader, in the absence of any evidence to the contary, even though I find the behaviour a bit odd. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 21:56, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not very familiar with Indian English, so if any of my suggestions about wording changes are inappropriate, just let me know in your replies. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 10:54, 14 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

  • How can we be confident that the Wilkins (2012) book (ref. 8) is a reliable source?
Sandra Wilkins seems to be renowned author. About 8,66,000 results came when search her name + author.
I'm not convinced that it's the same person. Can you see this book listed on a page of hers somewhere? The title looks like it's scraped from other sources, so this blog post may have a point. The archive link doens't show any of the content, and the source is being used to support quite a lot of personal information. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 21:56, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Please have a look now.
  • Ref 84 (for Chalte Chalte Phir) is broken.
 Fixed
  • Awards and nominations - some table entries are missing references.
  • Removed unsourced claims.
  • The Tips Official YouTube source looks OK per WP:RSPYT. (No action needed here)
  • I reviewed Times of India refs, in light of WP:TOI. Ref 5 can be removed from the lead as it's cited in the text with a different source. Refs 36, 39, 53, 54 are OK, cited quotes or reporting on the source's rankings. 42 is OK, uncontroversial. Ref 85 is OK for confirming awards, but better sources would be nice. Ref 31 can be expanded, I think; it's OK for what it's supporting.
 Fixed Ref 5 removed.
I checked discussion wrt Box Office India. Actually most of GAs and Even FAs have used Box Office India as a reliable source.
I looked at a couple of reviews from recent years (FLCs for Shilpa Shetty filmography and Karisma Kapoor filmography) and I can see that indeed, it has not been questioned by reviewers. As this is more recent than the discussion I linked, I'm happy with it as a source here. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 21:29, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox and lead

  • Given that Rao has apparently not publicly confirmed her date of birth, are you confident that including the date in the infobox is in line with WP:BLPPRIVACY?
 Fixed Have added a note as well.

Early life

  • "Rao has not ever put out her birthday details in public" - how about "Rao has never publicised her birthday details."?
 Fixed
  • "She has a younger sister Preetika Rao, who is also an actress." - suggest moving this to the end of the para so there can be no confusion with the subject of the following sentences like "Rao studied.." etc.
 Fixed
  • "Rao studied at Canossa Girls School, Andheri (Bombay). Rao went to Sophia College (Mumbai) " - can probably be joined as one sentence, e.g. "..(Bombay), then to Sophia.."
 Fixed
  • Is the use of both "Bombay" and "Mumbai" due to the date of the official name change?
Yes.

Career

  • "biographical period film The Legend of Bhagat Singh. In the film, which narrates the story of Indian independence Freedom Fighter Bhagat Singh," - a bit of a MOS:SEAOFBLUE issue here, but I think it's OK rather than rewording which risks making the text too complicated or unnatural.
  • "The film became successful at the box office" - would be good, but not necessary, to add the gross takings if a reliable source is available, as this would give a better comparison to "film did not perform well at the box office, grossing only ₹129 million"
 Fixed Added a link.
  • "In the film, which .." to "...Filmfare Best Female Debut Award (2003)" is not supported by the IIFA source cited.
Working on it
    • Tried best to find if she is really nominated for the award, no such records found. Hence, I have removed all unsourced claims with respect to awards nominations. Maybe it could have been added by her fan.
  • "Her first release of the year was" - I can't see this supporte in the cited sources.
 Done
  • "and also managed to do well at the box office" - suggest rewording, e.g. "also did well at the box office"
 Done
  • "over-possessive wife received well among critics" - should this be "over-possessive wife was well-received by critics"?
 Done
  • "Critical response to the film was negative, although Rao garnered acclaim for her performance as a school teacher." - I'm not sure that the cited source is strong enough to support this. Is it?
plus Added Two refs added. First tells about her role and second her performance.
  • "Rediff noted," "Sify wrote" and similar phrases - mention the individual authors where possible, although "Moviebuzz" should be in quotemarks as it's obviously not the actual name.
Reddif fixed, for sify author name is not given.
  • "Other critics" - either delete, or add additional critics.
 Fixed
  • "Rao with limited performance in the film received average applause" doesn't read right to me, but that may be due to the variation of English employed.
  • "The film was largely panned by critics but Rao's performance earned positive reviews" - doesn't seem to be supported by the cited source, which is one review.
plus Added
  • "Her character's older version was played by Deepti Naval." - missing a citation.
plus Added

Personal life and media image

  • Consider combining these short paragraphs, although they are on different topics.
 Done
  • "7 years" and "2nd muse" to "seven years" and "second muse" per MOS:NUMERAL
    •  Done

Filmography

  • What does "Special appearance" mean?
Special appearance is nothing but sort of Cameo appearance.
Maybe wikilink it to Cameo appearance?
 Done

Thanks for your work on the article, 25 Cents FC. I've made a couple of edits to the article that I think are uncontroversial but please review them. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 11:57, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's just the points about the Wilkins book pending, 25 Cents FC. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 21:56, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Cannot find a reliable source that could possibly prove about her family. Will it be good if I remove them? 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS 🍁 05:32, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. For that sort of info we would need a reliable source. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 10:04, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I have addressed all concerns raised. Please let me know if I missed something. Cheers.--25 CENTS VICTORIOUS 🍁 13:45, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, 25 Cents FC. I made a couple of very minor edits. Passing the article for GA as I'm satisfied that it meets the criteria. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 14:06, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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