Talk:Wedgie

Seinfeld conversation

• The Seinfeld episode "The Library" contains a conversation about wedgies:

Elaine: Why do they call it a "wedgie"?

George: Because the underwear is pulled up from the back until ... it wedges in.

Jerry: They also have an Atomic Wedgie. Now the goal there is to actually get the waistband on top of the head. It's very rare.

Elaine: Boys are sick.What is the point of the last three sentences? Why keep them; they have nothing to with wedgies. I don't want to get in an edit war.Everyoneandeveryone (talk) 23:30, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Well, it's the punchline of the quoted conversation, so there's something to be said for leaving it in, though as you point out it isn't a wedgie-specific punchline, so there's something to be said for taking it out. I don't feel too strongly about it either way.--Father Goose (talk) 19:53, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

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Shortening the Article

Does the article really need that many references to pop culture in it? I think we could cut out some of the ones that are just I"n X TV show, Y character gives Z character a wedgie". These aren't helpful to the reader at all, in my opinion. FingersOnRoids 00:48, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

With lists like these, it's hard to say which are "important" and which are not. I don't see what reasoning you used to delete some entries and keep others, for instance. I couldn't hope to predict which entries a given reader would want to see and which he or she wouldn't.

Some people respond to lists like these by exercising the "nuclear option" and trying to delete the list altogether. My view of that is, if you think it's a stupid list, don't read it.--Father Goose (talk) 02:52, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Remember, Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information --Scouto2 (talk) 23:11, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Proposal: Take out the variants and cleanup in the Popular Culture section

I have noticed that there are many variants here, some of which I have not even heard of. I suggest that we take out the variants as those are entirely subjective. One could invent a name, post it on Urban Dictionary, and insert that into the article. Sections like this are the cancer that is hurting Wikipedia.Also, I suggest that we clean up the Popular Culture section. It looks rather cluttered and has little to no citation. It takes up greater than 2/3 of the article.There is no information on the origin/history of this subject, and this article is little more than a popular culture section with Urban Dictionary tacked on. I am also adding a few tags. --Scouto2 (talk) 22:39, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

I think the citeable ones should stay, as long as it stays reasonable < 10 variations with good citations I think it improves the article. I'm going to remove the tag. -- Austin512 (talk • contribs) 00:29, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

The term "Melvin" originated in the 60's in Lakewood, California. There was an individual named Melvin, who was the recipient of a wedgie; hence the term Melvin comes into the lexicon. Hope this helps. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.4.43.51 (talk) 23:15, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Cleanup suggestions

Some effort has been made to clean up this article to remove the glaring problems. Some suggestions:

• Wedgies are strongly associated with bullying. Some sourced discussion of this. (I've seen reference of wedgies being discussed as a form of sexual harassment.)
• Discussion of wedgies and their use in pop culture in terms of the stereotypes and when or why used. NO LISTS of occurances.
• The variants section is iffy. I would include the text in the article main text somehow to prevent it from growing any bigger. Things like the atomic wedgie are pretty well known and worthy of inclusion, but a lot of the others that used to be listed are dubious at best.
• Sourcing. It's ok right now, but sourcing style needs to be normalized.
• Catagories needed.
• Wikiprojects if any apply.

--Lendorien (talk) 17:31, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

It's nice to see that someone else actually cares about this article's problems. Thanks for the help! --Scouto2 (talk) 23:36, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

I cleaned up the article per the cleanup request. Removed the 3rd place finish at the fair for creating wedgie-proof undergarments and the self-defense section. While humorous, I doubt that anyone would classify a wedgie variant as a form of self defense. Wikified a few sentences, and improved readability. I am sure an inspired person can add more information, but I just wanted to clean up and add a bit of encyclopedic tone to it per the cleanup request.Bobinit (talk) 21:36, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Popular Culture

Did we have to chop this article like we did with the briefs article what's next the debagging article ? Matthew Cantrell (talk) 02:47, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, it was completely encyclopedic, impossible to navigate, and completely useless. And I think that the list on debagging (wtf is debagging? i've only ever heard it called pantsing, and the title actually confused me. there has to be a better AE/BE compromise)is horrible. -- Austin512 (talk • contribs) 16:20, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

stop shortening this article. you say that the popular culture is two-thirds just do not read it. who really cares if someone invents a wedgie as for bullying well they are going to learn from other sites. stop editing the god damn article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.246.99.86 (talk) 00:50, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Pending changes

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Note that I am not involved in this project any much more than any other editor, just posting these notes since it is quite a big change, potentially

Regards, Rich Farmbrough, 00:37, 17 June 2010 (UTC).

Page re-protected indefinitely, as there have been no helpful IP or new user edits since the trial began; see here for the RFPP request. Airplaneman ✈ 20:11, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Faux serieux

I love Wikipedia, and the bogosity of the highfalutin faux serieux garbled grammar and meaning in this article makes it dear to my heart: "briefs are usually the type of underpants that a wedgie is performed upon." Pranksters (or perpetrators, if we must be absolutely PC) give wedgies to hapless marks, preferably those wearing briefs, because it works so much better with briefs. You don't give a wedgie to briefs. MaxwellPerkins (talk) 04:48, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

I changed that sentence to a more syntactically acceptable phrase.Phuthaditjhaba (talk) 05:38, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Stop shortening this article

If you dont like the article simply dont read it, but other people actually liked the article just the way it is. whats the point of making a page on a website that everyone can edit if you have the option of locking it from the public. Some of you say this article supports bullying. Are you really serious one article does not make a person to bully and deleting it or shortening it is not going to stop them from bullying. some people actually like giving/recieving wedgies. there are many sites such as wedgienation and wedgiehaven where all they talk about is wedgies. stop shortening this articel and unlock it.its not fair to those who wish to edit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.14.79.239 (talk) 18:14, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

However, it does waste the time of countless editors who have to undo every change that's being made. Requests for edits can always be made on this page because at present, the vandalism overwhelmingly shows that most (unlike you) don't want to help. Airplaneman ✈ 20:12, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

-Truth- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.219.51.9 (talk) 05:11, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Culture?

Seems to me that wedgies are quite specific to US youth culture. Never heard of such a thing in Germany (there's not even a word for it) or in other countries I had opportunity to live in. Maybe someone should note that in the article text... --217.6.251.18 (talk) 05:39, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Actually, yes, there is a word for wedgies in German, and it does exist out of the US. 'Hosenzieher' translates as 'Pants Puller', and is the word used for the action in Germany. And, on a previous archieve, there was a long list of countries with them.--92.22.161.42 (talk) 08:58, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

Hosenpuller is definitely not a Word we Germans would use for Wedgie. Not used in the same way and meaning. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.44.208.216 (talk) 13:58, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

The Danish Wikipedia has an article about wedgies but it uses the phrase Olfert. It seems to me that if there is a Danish word for it, then it is possible that it exists( or has existed) in Denmark. That said, aside from the definition the page’s sources were the same as for the English article. I think that is worthy of consideration. 198.200.115.29 (talk)

Commons

Can someone add {{commonscat|Wedgies}}? --Buckesfelder - Talk - Evaluation - E-Mail 15:09, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Edit request on 18 July 2012

A wedgie is also a simple survey to share with friends. See wedgies.com

This would be a good addition to the wedgie page here on wikipedia.

Porterhaney (talk) 03:48, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. That would not be the website itself but any form of media that has covered the subject in detail. Floating Boat (the user formerly known as AndieM) 07:45, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 2 December 2012

Change atomic wedgie to ultra atomic wedgie Nickypro (talk) 03:02, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Why? Begoon ^talk 04:08, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Is this a joke?

Really? This is an article I'd expect to see in, oh, maybe, Urban Dictionary, but Wikipedia? Such a scholarly article to describe what amounts to a slang term which most of us learned at summer camp, and which few of us have used since growing into adulthood. --134.174.110.7 (talk) 16:16, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

That may be your experience, but it’s more widespread than this, sad to say. It’s a form of bullying and can be dangerous, as chronicled in the article. BlackAdvisor (talk) 23:14, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

I think it's worth noting...

In the "dangers" section it says in the source that the wedgie was done with trousers which isn't how they are normally done. 87.102.91.126 (talk) 15:12, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 January 2014

Events: death by wedgie http://www.cbsnews.com/news/cops-man-killed-stepfather-with-atomic-wedgie/ Rarf1 (talk) 07:45, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Seconded, but perhaps more puzzling for me is why there doesn't seem to be a padlock icon on a page that is obviously protected. 24.20.203.54 (talk) 23:37, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

• @Rarf1: Not done: please make your request in a "change X to Y" format. Technical 13 (talk) 01:07, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

• @24.20.203.54: Done Technical 13 (talk) 01:07, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Please remove the update under "Dangers"

There was a recent modification under the "Dangers" tab of this pg. It contains information about an Oklahoma man, (St. Clair), that was murdered by his stepson, (Davis). St. Clair is my stepmother's ex-husband. Her and St.Clair's daughter, my stepsister, (along with the other family members), have been through quite a bit with all that has happened. People laughing and making fun and light of St. Clair's death. The media has totally blown this whole "atomic wedgie" comment by Davis out of proportion!!! They have suffered a lot of humiliation from it as well. The news of Denver's death was hard enough to deal with and has hit national news all because the murderer decided to pop off like a juvenile. The so called "atomic wedgie" did not kill this man!! The family is trying their hardest to try and express their disgust with every report of disrespect. However of is almost impossible to reach everyone out there who has reported on this. The family has asked me to report to them anything I see reported on or written about or to contact the source directly. This is NOT something they want on Wikipedia much less anywhere else. So please out of respect to Denver St. Clair and his family please remove the reference to the article about him and his death and any other mention of him and his death from any and all portions of this article or any other article on Wikipedia. Please think if this were your father, would you want everyone in the nation disrespecting him, you and your family? Please let him Rest In Peace?!?!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luckyladynok76 (talk • contribs) 08:03, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

IRL Frequency?

I’m from Israel, and I’ve only ever seen this happen among the more popular boys in the school as a bizarre form of male bonding. I asked a friend who’d moved around a lot in the US and he said that wedgies, swirlies, &c. are things he’d only heard about, from films and the like, and had never encountered IRL. Is this a real thing anymore? Siúnrá (talk) 07:06, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

I'm from Canada and I never saw this happen to anyone at all in real life ever, even in a school setting. If it weren't for watching the Fairly Odd Parents as a kid I would not have even known what a wedgie was. Indeed, the entire reason I came to this page was because the page on Milhouse van Houten listed wedgie as an internal link. I was honestly incredulous because I had a hard time believing that they really existed. I was moderately doubtful of the page's accuracy when I first read it as a result. I since read the autobiography of James Comey who claimed that when he was in school he was routinely received wedgies especially in the ninth grade most commonly from two assailants. I then suspected as you did that they existed in the 70's but not anymore. I then used the sources for this article to determine if I were correct by checking their dates. In 2002, Style columnist Hank Stuever wrote an article in the Washington Post celebrating the continued existence and commonality of wedgies amongst school-aged youth. In 2004, the Yorkshire post reported that a child was sent to a hospital for emergency surgery to repair testicular damage after his peers gave him a wedgie in an effort to imitate The Simpsons. The kid in question claimed that the pain far outlasted the original act and that he would never give anyone else a wedgie again. In 2006, a schoolteacher named Mark Holley was arrested for giving a 10 year old student a wedgie in a boy's bathroom during a summer school program in 2005. According to this talk page, though not the article, a man killed his stepfather by giving him an atomic wedgie in 2015. I would say therefore that yes it does happen in real life.

man killed by atomic wedgie, killer sentenced to 30 years

Yep, That is on the news right now. Should be added to the article:

<a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/07/17/us-usa-oklahoma-wedgie-idUSKCN0PR1VW20150717" rel="nofollow">Reuters</a>

<a href="http://nypost.com/2015/07/18/i-killed-my-stepfather-with-an-atomic-wedgie/" rel="nofollow">NY Post</a>

200.14.232.148 (talk) 18:16, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 September 2015

The hatnote is unnecessary and should be removed. It's unlikely that anyone would come to this page when searching for the geometric figure, except by a typo. If the typo is considered likely enough to warrant a hatnote, the note should refer to the disambiguation page:

Not to be confused with wedge.

2601:644:101:9616:6D32:1EC3:EB3B:CD32 (talk) 04:33, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

 Done albeit slightly differently - I agree the geometric figure is a highly unlikely link, so have combined the existing and your proposal to give

This article is about the wardrobe malfunction. For other uses, see wedge.

- Arjayay (talk) 08:26, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Why only Briefs?

In such works, briefs are usually the type of underpants that are worn by the victim. Don't you guys think this is kinda wrong. It's like your trying to say guys in briefs are the ones who will 99.9 likely get a wedgie while those in other underwear such as Boxers, Boxer Briefs or even a G-String is most likely not get a wedgie? It should be stated in a way that any guy is likely to get a wedgie regardless of it's undies. 1.32.77.250 (talk) 02:33, 5 May 2016 (UTC). If I recall correctly the sentence you reference describes how wedgies are often used in Low Comedy and in such works briefs are usually the worn by the victim. It is referring specifically to Low Comedy it is not referring to the likelihood in fact of a person to receive a wedgie.

Semi-protected edit request on 21 December 2016

New Section: Upside-down Wedgie An upside down wedgie is when your underwear is pulled over your feet. Worse when feet are put into leg holes. Trokodile (talk) 01:02, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

N Not done and not likely to be done-I strongly suspect it to be err.... vandalism.If otherwise provide reliable source in support of your inclusion.Light^{❯❯❯ Saber} 07:10, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 June 2020

atomic-wedgie.com is the official site for positing wedgie humor. 2600:1012:B112:9D98:A5FD:ECFA:4C4D:49D5 (talk) 22:48, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. JTP ^{(talk • contribs)} 23:12, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Melvin -- edit request of December 2020

The "melvin" section should add the following: In 1993, a U.S. Federal District Court described the term "melvin" as "the act of an individual coming up from behind another individual and reaching down into their pants, grabbing hold of their underwear and pulling it up and out over their pants." (citation: Pascual v. Anchor Advanced Products, Inc., 819 F. Supp. 728 (1993)). 68.233.178.12 (talk) 03:21, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 June 2022

please add source for "minerva" Hotspirits (talk) 11:30, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

 Partly done: I just removed the statement. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:34, 24 June 2022 (UTC)