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Flippin eck - not again...
I am sick to the back teeth of this nonsense. Here we go, yet again:
Something is going to have to be done about these persistant edit warriors. --Mais oui! 07:25, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
Scotch warriors
Right, I've had a quick look over the revised article, good stuff, and I have the following comments...
- It's weird having the first citation in the text as number [4] - it's because you've added citations within the infobox. Not usually a problem but because of the formatting, the first ref you see is [4]. So.... I know I recommended citing those stats on highs and lows within rankings, perhaps you can add a performance section (hey - a graph of rankings throughout the past decades?) and then cite it there? Picky, but then the peer review was after FA-style comments!
- The crest & Archie Gemmill's goal will need a fair use rationale added to the image page.
- ...disastrous defeat... is a bit POV - why disastrous?
- I'm still not sure what makes the players in the list "notable". Is it a subjective list or have you applied objective criteria to this list? Check out the List of Arsenal F.C. players which is a featured list and has some good explanation as to why certain individuals have been picked out. A lot of football club articles simply migrate this information to a sub-page (like Arsenal) where you can explain how people were selected.
- Goalscorers, caps are sortable, I'd be consistent and do the same for the managers (for suitable columns, e.g. W,D,L,%win)
- WP:DASH suggests that you ought to seperate years using an en-dash, so instead of 1955-56, you should use 1955–56.
- It's not essential but I'd consider creating (at least a stub) article for Dawson Walker.
Hope that all helps. Let me know the moment you take this to FAC or if there's anything else I can do to help you out. All the best The Rambling Man 16:55, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
(The) Tartan Army
Hi
Article titles, because they tend to be listed alphabetically, do not normally include the definite article. In real life, everyone says, 'the Tartan Army'. The only time I have heard otherwise is from people who are not fluent speakers of English and tend to leave out articles before nouns.
Also, if you click on the article in question, you will see that it defines 'the Tartan Army' as the travelling fans of the Scotland rugby union and football teams and makes no mention of the name being applied to the actual team. This makes it appear that the Scotland team page is giving out false information.
Rectifying that situation (if you can find a good source for 'the Tartan Army' being used for the Team rather than the fans) might be a better use of your time than specious quibbles about the use of the word "the"
Thank you,
81.145.242.88 19:32, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for the lesson. Kanaye 21:57, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi Kanaye, as a WikiProject Scotland participant, please check out this this thread and consider adding the bot results page to your watchlist so we can manually update the New Articles page. There are some false results for the first batch, but I'm sure we can collectively tune the rules to improve the output.
If we get enough people watching the results page, we'll be cooking with gas as they say :) This looks like a great helper in finding new Scotland related material. Cheers. --Cactus.man ✍ 01:12, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
Would you be willing to add your support to the nomination of Derry City F.C. for FA status? Cheers. Danny InvincibleTalk|Edits 18:09, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
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My very best wishes with the FAC. You have done a tremendous job with this and many other related articles. I will not be contributing to the discussion as I am not up to speed on FA criteria, nor on that particular topic, but you may want to ask User:Golbaltraveller, who has got at least 2 Scotland-related articles past FA, and also done some outstanding work in several others, eg. Economy of Scotland.
Are you knowlegdeable about other sports? Our Sport in Scotland article could do with a lot of work, especially benchmarking against other good "Sport in x" articles, and of course refs and images. Cheers. --Mais oui! 16:44, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Proposed deletion of SNP MPs and current Scottish MPs cats
Could you have a look at this CFD nomination. It has been up for a week, and only 3 people have commented on it (amazingly). Could you please consider the discussion and contribute, because it would be a bit pathetic if this CFD were closed with almost zero comment. --Mais oui! 17:09, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Tartan Army
Hi,
It is not a question of "threatening" anything: I am prepared to be influenced by reasoned discussion. What I will not put up with is being deleted without discussion by someone who thinks that they own a certain article.
As for "spamming" your page, I put to you a dilemma that I currently have with regard to the necessity of sourcing the phrase, 'the Tartan Army'. Since you rejected "the Bravehearts" as a nickname, presumably on the grounds that the source was inadequate, my purpose in sending the evidence that I could find was:
(a) To see if any of the sources for the Tartan Army would meet with your standards
(b) To illustrate that it is not easy to find a single rock-solid source for an unofficial nickname
I guess I mistook you for someone who actually gives a damn!
The evidence for "the Bravehearts" is on the Discussion Page and I am awaiting user feedback before taking any further action on it.
You seriously need to get your attitude sorted out.
Regards,
Flonto 21:21, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
I was too late! Some other sod was bolder than me. My nickname is Chickenheart.
Flonto 16:46, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
Braveheart Edits
(repeated from your Golfer45 account)
I will offer you the opportunity to immediately revert your latest edit as Kanaye, as it's presence constitutes a 3RR violation. You have been advised to bring your content issues to the Discussion page and wait before instituting them. Your behavior is relatively uncivil, and I would ask that you ponder the deleterious effect that has on cooperative editing. Arcayne (cast a spell) 16:06, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
Let's try to go through them one by one. If that doesn't work, we can always go through 3rd opinion in a bit. - Arcayne (cast a spell) 20:49, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
Let's work this out using my talk page, as going back and forth may confuse matters. Go ahead and watchlist mine for a bit. :) - Arcayne (cast a spell) 14:58, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
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Redirects, such as in Craig Thomson (referee) article
Hi. Read the Manual of Style back to front. There is no need to avoid redirects, what you are doing is a waste of energy. Thanks. Ref (chew)(do) 19:48, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
:Hi again. We are both wrong to trust a Wikipedia article as an authoritative source for giving the "correct title". The Wikipedia article is not written by those who necessarily know. Those who necessarily know are more likely to be members of the staff of the Scottish Football League. And those members of the staff of the Scottish Football League who contribute to the official website prefer to call it (e.g. in the latest 2006/07 competition) this, not "Scottish Challenge Cup", as you claim. So, in my opinion, not only should the reference to it in Craig Thomson (referee) be reverted again, but the article should be changed to Scottish Football League Challenge Cup, with a redirect from the current page at Scottish Challenge Cup and also from Scottish League Challenge Cup. Or can you not see this? I'd be interested to hear your thoughts. Thanks once again. Ref (chew)(do) 21:28, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
::My thoughts haven't really changed on this. BTW, I did not revert last time round - I changed the display name as per the Scottish Football League website being my reliable source, but have left your Wikilink alone as you wish. Having contributed significantly to the recent development of the article, without owning it of course, I am disappointed that we have to differ so spectacularly over a very minor point in the makeup of the piece. You will have noticed my post to the talk page for Scottish Challenge Cup, inspired by our recent discussions. This may illustrate how strongly I feel about editors believing their righteousness outweighs their duty to check facts and sources (no accusation intended in your case, as you have stayed civil throughout, but other editors have been plain blinkered and stubborn over issues like this in the past).
::On your next point: whoever said that WikiProject Football articles should have a title which includes a sponsor, such as Clydesdale Bank? That's a totally different matter, and I would like us to concentrate on football-related contexts rather than bring outside influences to bear. Scottish Premier League equals Scottish Football League, as Sponsorname Scottish Premier League equals Sponsorname Scottish Football League - your comparison is not on an even football field in this instance.
::When there is a posting of consensus by editors to Talk:Scottish Challenge Cup, the future of the prose in use in other connected articles, and the associated Wikilinks therein will become clearer, and we'll know how to proceed. Thanks for the interesting exchanges so far. Ref (chew)(do) 23:05, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
- Noted your quotation of the naming conventions policy for Wikipedia, and I therefore withdraw from this discussion, having also struck on the Talk:Scottish Challenge Cup page, and reverted to your usage in the Craig Thomson (referee) article. Thanks for your exchange of views, and for clarifying the guideline for me. Best wishes. Ref (chew)(do) 23:10, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
Troll
That IP troll that Wangi has blocked has been about for 2-3 months now, eg:
User:Barryob thinks that he is just yet another incarnation of uber-sockpuppeteer User:Mallimak, but I have not seen any evidence yet for that myself. --Mais oui! 04:42, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
Scotland team FAC
Ack, I've been quite busy of late. Can you give me till the weekend to look it over? Sorry for mucking you about like this. Thanks. Qwghlm 22:46, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Posted as a reply on my own talk page. BM. "Yes, 'anglos' are players based in England. In the past there was discussion about the relative merits of said players in the international team. If you got to http://www.geograph.org.uk/browse.php?p=595335 and choose the image you want I'll upload it for you. Ben MacDui (Talk) 19:31, 13 July 2007 (UTC)"
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