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July 28

04:15:46, 28 July 2022 review of draft by Kops2222


I seek help editing my new article on the Kpop music star Ahin. I worked weeks on this new article but it was declined for not having a neutral point of view. Could someone help me edit it to make sure that I am not being biased. She is the first big music star that I know of to speak fluent madarin, fluent English with an American accent, fluent Korean, and japansese and Spanish. This is very rare for a music star at the top of the fame, so i wrote an article about it, but my article was declined as it sounds too complementary, but that was not my intent. Could someone else edit it to make sure it is neutral?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Lee_Ahin


Kops2222 (talk) 04:15, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Kops2222: I see the draft was already resubmitted. I made some minor improvements but would like to suggest two general improvements you should make in the meantime: 1) do not include any info that isn't sourced. Otherwise, you will start to get into WP:ESSAY territory (which you have), and 2) do not use multiple YouTube videos as sources. It clutters the sourcing section and doesn't help show notability. TechnoTalk (talk) 21:24, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much. This is very helpful. Kops2222 (talk) 13:54, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Philippine name

Good day! In what way can I delete a template (Philippine name) and merge to Family name hatnote instead. Please feel free to assist me regarding that particular circumstances. Thank you very much! RenRen070193 (talk) 05:21, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@RenRen070193: this help desk only deals with drafts going through the Articles for Creation (AfC) process; you should try another help facility, such as the TEAHOUSE. Best, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 05:45, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

05:44:25, 28 July 2022 review of draft by Rayanfds


Rayanfds (talk) 05:44, 28 July 2022 (UTC) Made changes to the article and want to verify is it finally ready for submission or do i need to add any additional details if needed.[reply]

@Rayanfds: there's no such thing as 'ready for submission', really; it's by and large ready when you think it's ready. Whether it's ready for publication is what then gets assessed at the review. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:15, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This application got rejected twice for notability of film but now its updated with new citations and informations. My question is does this article gets deleted if it again gets declined?. Rayanfds (talk) 07:58, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It has been declined twice, not rejected. Decline means you can resubmit it once you've addressed the reasons for declining; rejection means you cannot. If you keep resubmitting, especially without any real effort to improve the draft, it may eventually get rejected, but it won't be deleted unless there's a copyright violation or some other inappropriate content, or the draft gets abandoned completely (and even then, it will take six months or more before it's finally deleted). -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:18, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Rayanfds: I made some structural changes and fixed the grammar. You should find some reviews in the mainstream press before resubmitting. TechnoTalk (talk) 21:11, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
thank you for your feedbacks. Rayanfds (talk) 03:05, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

09:47:36, 28 July 2022 review of draft by O.ominirabluejack


Hello.

I'm attempting to submit my draft article Draft:Kouyate family for review, but the wizard seems to be malfunctioning. Could someone please help?

O.ominirabluejack (talk) 09:47, 28 July 2022 (UTC) O.ominirabluejack (talk) 09:47, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@O.ominirabluejack and O.ominirabluejack: You have to click on the blue submit button to submit it. But before you do, it might help if you sourced everything in the article. It's a bit light on sourcing, which is needed to demonstrate notability. TechnoTalk (talk) 20:54, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

13:15:08, 28 July 2022 review of submission by LittleNirvana


I have added sources that shows the WP:SIGCOV of the subject as advised by the last reviewer MissVain on her talk page.

LittleNirvana (talk) 13:15, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@LittleNirvana: this draft has been rejected and will not be considered further.-- DoubleGrazing (talk) 13:24, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

14:20:46, 28 July 2022 review of submission by Artistsbooksforever

Hi, can you suggest how I could make my sources better for the page above? All cited sources are independent, so I'm wondering if there's a length(in pages?) that makes an article or book chapter significant enough to be of value? Thank you in advance! Artistsbooksforever (talk) 14:20, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Artistsbooksforever: it's not enough that the sources are independent and reliable, they must also be secondary, and provide significant coverage (of the subject directly). I had a quick look at the sources cited here, and couldn't find any that meet all these criteria, with the possible exception of Slash. Admittedly, two of them are offline, and two are behind paywalls (of which one, Forbes, almost certainly doesn't meet the WP:GNG standard), so if you're relying on those in particular then perhaps you could provide more details of their coverage? Best, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:33, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. I hope I am not taking advantage of you, and I am starting to better understand how some of these sources may seem not significant in coverage.
If I'm getting this right, the publications below are to be considered independent, reliable and secondary, and they do provide significant coverage (multiple pages each about the publisher). How can I prove the depth of the coverage? Thank you!
Losowsky, A. (2013). Fully booked: ink on paper. Gestalten. pp. 94-99. ISBN 9783899554649
Glasner B., Ott S. (2012). Wonder Wood: A Favorite Material for Design, Architecture and Art. Birkhauser. pp. 96-97. ISBN 9783034606738
Tuitou, Haydée (Autumn 2018 – Winter 2019). "Mélanie Scarciglia & Christophe Boutin". Apartamento (22): 232–247
London Centre for Book Arts (November 8, 2021). Books: Art, Craft & Community. Ludion Publishers. ISBN 9493039528.
Roth, A., Aarons, P. E., Lehmann, C. (2017). Artists who make books. Phaidon. p. 305. ISBN 9780714872643 Artistsbooksforever (talk) 15:32, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Artistsbooksforever: No advantage taken. We're here to help. I restructured the article a little, but it needs more sources. I cannot tell from the books how much is about the company. Hopefully others with access to the free library will help identify the relevant info. I did a simple Google search to find more, and didn't see anything. The Forbes piece mentioned above is written by a "contributor", not a Forbes journalist, which diminishes its value as a reliable source. TechnoTalk (talk) 20:51, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your help! Artistsbooksforever (talk) 07:09, 1 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

16:29:59, 28 July 2022 review of submission by Siddhesh Bhise


Siddhesh Bhise (talk) 16:29, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Siddhesh Bhise You don't ask a question, but your draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. Wikipedia is not social media for people to tell the world about themselves. This is an encyclopedia. 331dot (talk) 16:36, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

17:54:10, 28 July 2022 review of submission by I do care about


I do care about (talk) 17:54, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@I do care about: This draft has been rejected and will not be considered further. We don't cite social media (this includes Reddit) and the Huffington Post piece is useless for notability (too sparse) due to being a listicle. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 19:10, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 18:16:33, 28 July 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by VwbTalent


Hi there! I was wondering if I could get feedback on my declined draft, Draft:Talent.com - the reason it was declined recently was that it reads like an advertisement. Granted, I do work for this company, but I believe I've written it from a neutral point of view. Is the issue the quality of sources?

FWIW, I modeled my entry off the Indeed Wiki page, so my entry has a similar writing style and quality of sources to that one. Maybe there's something I'm missing?

Any tips or advice would be appreciated, thanks!

VwbTalent (talk) 18:16, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@VwbTalent: Try modeling it off of a WP:GA or WP:FA article such as Cracker Barrel. The problem with using another article as a template is that you essentially inherit any issues that article has. Most of your draft is about the fundraising/investment, which we earnestly don't care about unless something is massively unusual about it (read: something criminal). Your sources wouldn't factor into the advertizing decline - an article can both be well-sourced and still be written like an ad - but the lot of them are routine business news and thus worthless, minus one interview with company principals. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 19:15, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@VwbTalent: I made some structural changes, and added some more sources. You still could use more independent media coverage to show notability. For example, I couldn't source the number of offices. But helping 500,000 people every month get a job and having 28,000,000 visitors a month is certainly a notable thing, in my mind. at least. TechnoTalk (talk) 19:38, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

July 29

01:32:44, 29 July 2022 review of draft by 2603:6081:3502:858D:740D:357:8411:3AFC


I have updated this draft wikipedia page to follow wikipedia's notability guidelines. The original draft was declined because the page focused on the company but the references were focused on the company's product. I've since updated the draft to focus on the product. Can you please review my current draft and see if you think it meet's wikipedia's notability and referencing guidelines?

2603:6081:3502:858D:740D:357:8411:3AFC (talk) 01:32, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The way to get someone to review your draft is to submit it.
But just to say that one of the sources (Lifewire) is flaky, and another (ProPrivacy) is considered non-RS. If I were to review this, I'd decline it on the basis of insufficient reliable sources, but perhaps another reviewer will be more lenient. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:53, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

03:15:00, 29 July 2022 review of submission by Lee Miao Si

Hi there, my wikipedia page has been more than 90 days. However, when I google it still doesn't appear. Anyone able to help with this issue? Thank you! Lee Miao Si (talk) 03:15, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lee Miao Si Wikipedia has no control over how quickly Google indexes articles. 331dot (talk) 08:07, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This is no longer an AfC matter, as the article was accepted three months ago. But FWIW, it hasn't been reviewed by NPP yet, and AFAIK that may prevent it being indexed. (Happy to be proven wrong on that!) -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:18, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

05:19:03, 29 July 2022 review of draft by ChrisJohnson112211


Hi, I generated a draft of an article that was declined by a reviewer: Hoary on July 19. Hoary and I had a productive exchange of suggestions and edits until 9 days ago and there have been no correspondence or updates on the status of my article since then. Is there any way to know where things stand with the editing and publication of my article? I don't know if Hoary has permanently rejected my article for new, unstated reasons, or if this is a normal delay in the process. If my article has been declined again, is there a way I can request a new reviewer who can help me resolve any new problems? Thank you for your help and advice with this. Chris ChrisJohnson112211 (talk) 05:19, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@ChrisJohnson112211: your draft is awaiting review. It hasn't been rejected. There is also no obligation on the earlier reviewer to review it again, or otherwise to continue working on it. What happens is that when a draft is declined and resubmitted, it goes back to the pool, and gets reviewed again when a reviewer happens to pick it up. No need to worry, all perfectly normal and par for the course. Best, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:12, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the response DoubleGazing. That is helpful to hear. ChrisJohnson112211 (talk) 14:31, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

05:29:50, 29 July 2022 review of submission by Ntkn766

After this new film Khadak, actor Has lead roles in two notable films and hence actor becomes notable as per WP:ACTOR. Ntkn766 (talk) 05:29, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Ntkn766: unlikely; NACTOR requires "significant roles in multiple notable films", and their filmography doesn't suggest that is the case. Besides, the post-Khadak work clearly isn't notable, at least not yet. In any case, this draft has been rejected. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:09, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hello sir can you please tell why khadak is not notable. between she has done significant role in many movies.. Ntkn766 (talk) 14:25, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't say Khadak isn't notable; I said her work since then isn't (yet) notable, as the newer films haven't been released, and there are no Wikipedia articles on them.
There also seems to be some degree of aggrandisement in what comes to describing her roles as 'lead' or 'significant'.
Be that as it may, the fact remains that this draft has been rejected. If you wish to take it further, you will need to consult with the reviewer who rejected it. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:31, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

08:36:35, 29 July 2022 review of submission by Director nmch


Director nmch (talk) 08:36, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Director nmch You don't ask a question, but your draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. 331dot (talk) 08:41, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

11:44:20, 29 July 2022 review of draft by Kuralarasan DM


Kuralarasan DM (talk) 11:44, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Kuralarasan DM: you don't ask a question, but let me just say that the draft was unreferenced, with no indication of notability, and on top of that it was an apparent copyvio. Therefore I've declined it again, and also requested that it's speedily deleted. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 11:49, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

15:11:58, 29 July 2022 review of draft by DMhc1


Looking for advice on resources for notability. I have input several new references but they are deemed insufficient. Can you provide an example for me? I have used the Anna's Tacqueria page as an example of a similar business. Thank you. DMhc1 (talk) 15:11, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@DMhc1: don't use another article as your guide, there's no guarantee that it complies with the rules; use instead the actual rules, most importantly the WP:GNG notability guideline. You basically need to show significant coverage of the subject, in multiple independent and reliable secondary sources. Anything written by the business themselves, or anything based on their press releases or similar, is unusable, as is routine business reporting, any interviews, and anything that doesn't adhere to proper journalistic standards (such as all the various 'ten best products' reviews, publications with an agenda to push, etc.). -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:15, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

15:41:53, 29 July 2022 review of submission by Fonzie10


I am requesting e re-review on this article since i am new to wikipedia on writing articles and i did a lot of mistakes and i m trying to fix them so i can publish this article. i am not a related party with the person i m writing about but i choose it as a start article and i want to improve it until its worth publishing

Fonzie10 (talk) 15:41, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Fonzie10: the sources cited are not sufficient to establish notability, and most of the draft contents are unreferenced. I think the earlier reviewer was quite right to reject this. This is probably not what you wanted to hear, but you did ask for a re-review so there it is.
I can understand why these sort of 'famous for being famous' people would like to give their career a boost by having a Wikipedia article published, but alas that's not why Wikipedia is here. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:21, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I thank you a lot for the fast reply , i agree with the rejection i m not objecting i just want to improve the article so i can be able to publish it i am not being paid or neither related to the person i m writing about , this article its not about giving a boost to their career but i choose this person since its one of the first public figures that did blogging in Albania since a fashion blogger was not a usual " title " to have in albania and the rest that came up later they changed their tittle to blogger but became famous to other ways not blogging thats why i choose this specific person. so can you guide me please how to write a decent article for wikipedia regarding this person? Fonzie10 (talk) 16:26, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The most useful advice I can give you (other than 'drop it') is: find several sources that fully and indisputably satisfy all aspects of the WP:GNG criteria; then summarise — without adding the slightest positive (or negative) bias — what they have said, clearly citing each source as you go. Keep it factual, keep it simple, and show that this person warrants an article in a global encyclopaedia (and BTW, being one of the first fashion bloggers in Albania ain't it). I doubt this is doable, but good luck all the same. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:55, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

17:00:26, 29 July 2022 review of draft by Leslie Love Stone


My article was declined because it lacked the tone of an encyclopedia article. A few questions:

1. My intent is to create an article than can be linked to the already published article on the Adelaida District AVA. DAOU is cited but has no corresponding article. Ultimately, I'd like to do articles for all the cited wineries and Stanley Hoffman, also cited in this article. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adelaida_District_AVA 2. I modeled my article on the Tablas Creek article which is linked to the Adelaida District AVA article. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tablas_Creek_Vineyard 3. Can you point to something specific that does not meet your requirements? I definitely want to get this right!

Thank you,

Leslie Love Stone

Leslie Love Stone (talk) 17:00, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Leslie Love Stone: IMO, the draft reads like marketing blurb, not like an encyclopaedia entry. Please see the advice at Encyclopedic style. HTH, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 17:10, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you—most helpful. As this is my first article, I am obviously making mistakes! Leslie Love Stone (talk) 18:48, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

July 30

08:42:45, 30 July 2022 review of submission by Helloricko

My feedback on the article submission was: "This submission does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. Entries should be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Please rewrite your submission in a more encyclopedic format. Please make sure to avoid peacock terms that promote the subject." I accept and understand those comments and am happy to work to improve the draft to a more encyclopedic format. However I wanted to check your opinion on the extent of the issue... If you think it is impossible to write an article about an existing political campaign from a completely neutral point of view, then I won't spend time trying. Perhaps it's not the sort of thing wiki is suitable for (I struggled to find examples of other campaigns with wiki pages in my research for how to format the article). However if you think it is possible, but that I need to fine tune the wording and source material, then I will spend more time perfecting it in light of the comments. Thank you for your help. Helloricko (talk) 08:42, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Helloricko: The sourcing is odd. It seems to be a lot of kindred spirits supporting the group, but little actual media coverage of the group, besides The Telegraph. Can you show other media coverage of the group, to demonstrate notability? If so, then you have a chance. See WP:GNG for more info. There are also duplicate citations. See WP:DUPCITES. TechnoTalk (talk) 07:45, 1 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

12:26:37, 30 July 2022 review of submission by Kuralarasan DM


Kuralarasan DM (talk) 12:26, 30 July 2022 (UTC)This is My first article to my userpage and I partially completed my initial stage, so finally waiting for review[reply]



@Kuralarasan DM: this draft has been rejected as non-notable (and I might add promotional); it will not be considered further. --DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:49, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

17:47:52, 30 July 2022 review of draft by MSLF Project


I want to improve my draft and I would like to know to better write the submission. Is it the tone and language that need to be changed or the sources. I cant tell.

MSLF Project (talk) 17:47, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

OP blocked. 331dot (talk) 18:56, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Should I submit Draft:University of Sfax flat Earth controversy to AfC?

My article "University of Sfax flat Earth controversy" was moved to draftspace by another editor 12(!) minutes after I created it. Because that editor's move left behind a redirect, it is now impossible for me (or any other non-admin) to move it back. Should I post it to AfC? Partofthemachine (talk) 23:45, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Partofthemachine It's been suggested to you that it may be better for you to add it to the existing article about the university itself. But if you truly feel it should be a standalone article, yes, you should submit it for a review. 331dot (talk) 07:40, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

July 31

07:27:51, 31 July 2022 review of draft by Maansouz


Maansouz (talk) 07:27, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Maansouz You don't ask a question. 331dot (talk) 07:38, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 09:34:29, 31 July 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Talkies10

Not only passing reference she has individual significant coverage [1][2][3][4][5][6] and many more references actor is eligible under WP:ACTOR please have a look


Talkies10 (talk) 09:34, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Talkies10: this was deleted following an AfD less than a year ago, and since then her career doesn't seem to have progressed further, so you will have an uphill struggle to show sufficient notability now. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:49, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
PS: Please don't just resubmit a draft without any improvement, that is disrespectful towards the previous reviewer, and not helpful. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:53, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@DoubleGrazing Thanks for your response she is doing many projects Tharagathi Gadhi Daati and many recent articles are also there to show sufficient notability [7] you can check the references. in filmography i have to mention 2 3 projects.. Talkies10 (talk) 09:59, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 16:55:37, 31 July 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Talkies10

User AngusWOOF has arranged the references request you to kindly re review

Talkies10 (talk) 16:55, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

19:23:05, 31 July 2022 review of draft by Johnadkison


My draft for "Clitorphallus" has been denied because it is considered a neologism. The body part is referred to as a penis or clitoris for people without sexual development disorders/variations and as a genital tubercle in embryonic development. It is understandable that some have chosen to use the "clitorophallus" term to recognize that it's the same part of the body and to be inclusive of all individuals. Thus, I believe that this neologism deserves publication. The feedback that I have been provided is "...unless they receive substantial use and press coverage; this requires strong evidence in independent, reliable, published sources. Links to sites specifically intended to promote the neologism itself do not establish its notability." Please be more specific about what "substantial" entails. This is not likely a term that will be used in non-academic literature anytime soon, but those who desire to educate themselves should have a reference to understand the term when they come across it. I have provided several citations to independent, reliable and published sources. I would like to understand how much I need and how these sources are not "independent" and/or "reliable." Johnadkison (talk) 19:23, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Johnadkison: Did you read the comment left behind underneath the decline box by the reviewer? "Please provide more context to this term, I am sure there is more scientific evidence available about the use of this term and its conceptual scope." —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 22:29, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. I added more information specifically around the development during the embryonic stage. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnadkison (talk • contribs) 11:06, 1 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

22:12:54, 31 July 2022 review of submission by Roland Marckwort


Roland Marckwort (talk) 22:12, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I am attempting to publish a draft for Violentene, but not quite sure how to verify my info, the steps to do so have been slightly confusing.

Many thanks for any help!

 Courtesy link: Draft:Violentene
Your sources are lacking. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 22:27, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

August 1

06:47:57, 1 August 2022 review of submission by Universe is Quantun Build


Universe is Quantun Build (talk) 06:47, 1 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please see article related to : 🤔 Quantum Bullsh*t https://twitter.com/SOSDeveloper/status/1550924293772656640 For this reason ,I think quantum control is a new approach in quantum physics that consist to control everything entity that exists in the universe through QLI (Quantum Logical instances) ✍️ Description : God is not a being.. God is the light of the heavens and the earth, but everything that exists in the universe is considered a being and has a solution under quantum logical instances described with a continuous funtion according to Leibniz's principle such as f(x)= 2^2x With x ∈ N* . For each infinitesimal Variations of x --- correspond an infinitesimal variations of the value f(x) that we can represent by an infinitesimal of wave vector Vnpr (nuclear vector of released photon) as interpreted by Dr.Feynman in Fig1 .رحمه الله Example : for x = 1; f(x) =(4 quantum Logical instances) ; For x = 2 ; f(x) = (16 quantum Logical instances) ..; For x = 512 ; f(x) = 17.97732+e307 ..etc Finally ,by associating 1x to 1 qubit , we can resolve issue of everything entity that exists in the universe . For this reason ,quantum control is a new approach in quantum physics that consist to control everything entity that exists in the universe through QLI (Quantum Logical instances) ✍️ https://1drv.ms/u/s!AglDSdZdofJ2g2cPlxNhHS1KMMKB

Interpretation of the infinitessimal "Vnpr" vector of released Photon ( Nuclear vector of released photon ),by Dr.Feynman . https://1drv.ms/u/s!AglDSdZdofJ2gVzxXwmnr1-utu1h

@Universe is Quantun Build: see SOAPBOX. --DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:56, 1 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Universe is Quantun Build: Wikipedia is not the place for crackpot theology or proselytising. This draft should have been rejected (why it was declined is beyond me) and I've tagged it for speedy deletion under G11 as blatant promotion (i.e. preaching). —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 07:12, 1 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Jéské, you can decline drafts and tag pages for deletion without insulting editors without implying they are "crackpot". I agree this draft will be deleted soon but civility is called for in all situations with well-intentioned by misguided editors. Liz Read! Talk! 07:41, 1 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I called the POV crackpot, not the editor. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 09:59, 1 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your comment which I really appreciated. But i think that you needs to study on what said by Dr.Feynman about Quantum physics by first step .
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AglDSdZdofJ2gjHCyPhfphhJpmkc Universe is Quantun Build (talk) 08:09, 1 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Please quit posting that link. We're not interested. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 09:55, 1 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

09:42:44, 1 August 2022 review of draft by Byteutates


Hi, thanks for the fast check of the draft of Bezau Business Schools. However, I am a bit confused that it was declined, as it is simply a translation (just a bit shortened history section) of the wiki-page in German - see here: [Bezauer Wirtschaftsschulen] which is checked and worked on by several users (check version history). The references are given in the literature section and with the weblink. It is just a school, so this is not about advertisement etc. and the information are for all out there to see and it seems not to make sense to cite the given sources (given in the literature section) in the text - but if that is, what is critizised - I can do that, even though it seems to make no sense to me in this case? The remark, that there should be independent / secondary sources seems to make - in part - no sense, as we often use (also in sciences) data from a source, without having other sources. Especially in this case - with a public school - when the resources are from the public school, it seems to make no sense!? So it would be more realiable to use secondary sources, which copy or use information from the primary source? Looking forward for a reply. Best! (also asked user Pbrks directly and posted this text on his page as well - see: [Pbrks]

Byteutates (talk) 09:42, 1 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Byteutates: this is a common problem when translating articles from other wikis; enwiki has higher notability and verifiability standards than the others (that I'm aware of, at least), and therefore the existing sources are often insufficient. And given that this draft doesn't cite a single source, it was indeed declined correctly.
On a separate point, if, as you say, you've translated this from a dewiki article, you need to attribute that as the original source, see WP:HOWTRANS. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:04, 1 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hi DoubleGrazing, ok, added 2 secondary references (in my view it is usually more desirable to have primary sources (which were already given) than secondary sources - but ok). Hope it is fine now. Best Byteutates (talk) 10:20, 1 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I make that just one secondary source; the Bezau.at and the school's own website are both primary. (I'm not sure whether the third one is entirely secondary, either, but I'm giving it the benefit of doubt.)
Secondary sources are absolutely needed to establish notability per WP:GNG; this isn't a question of opinion or desirability. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:29, 1 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 14:58:07, 1 August 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by RTbluesky


I am not sure why my submission keeps getting declined. Are there specific lines that can be highlighted which are making it seem like an advertisement? Or is it to do with the sources, if so can the particular ones be named? I have worked very hard many times to fix this and cannot seem to get approval on it.

RTbluesky (talk) 14:58, 1 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

RTbluesky You are a paid editor but haven't yet made the correct disclosure on your user page. Theroadislong (talk) 08:23, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

18:04:08, 1 August 2022 review of submission by Dilshadhassan


Fortune Park Vacation.

Why my page decline ?

Dilshadhassan (talk) 18:04, 1 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Dilshadhassan: it has been declined because the draft is poorly referenced and highly promotional, with no sign of notability. (And for those reasons, I have just tagged it for speedy deletion.) Wikipedia isn't a platform for companies to market themselves. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 18:23, 1 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

August 2

06:11:09, 2 August 2022 review of submission by Brakshit23

Hello Dear reviewer, revision user. Govind Dholakia is one of the people's person in the diamond industry of india. Top institute of India like ISRO, IIM-A, IIT-B, Indian Railway Institute and renown university ask him to visit them and give insight over his journey in industry and his social work. He is not a person of marketing he is the person of people at large in gujarat. He makes Solar village, committed to serve the people of Gujarat. He wants to give it back to society.

i don't know who earlier attempted to make page for him or start article for him. their writing i am not aware their choice of words i am not aware , who were there i am not sure. i am a proud citizen of Surat and we do hear him in college lectures and social gatherings i feel sad about people not able to read about him, know about him,

i don't take it personally what other wiki community members say, tag and rejects , they might be right but not 100% right. with good collaboration we can create bridge for people to reach right people and i as an individual want to be that bridge builder. i am also working over such other articles by which i can empower such articles and nake it more visible for people.

i have tried all mode and references of IIM IIT and prominent news paper like times of india, business standard, economic times being ignored. please help.

Brakshit23 (talk) 06:11, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Brakshit23: I'm not sure I quite follow what you're saying, but that doesn't matter — this draft has been rejected, and won't be considered further. If you wish to plead your case, you need to do so with the reviewer who rejected it. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:17, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
hello Mate, see i am trying to do what they are indicating, improving on those lines, trying to make it inline with wiki policies but still they find irrelevant. Requested them to relook, reconsider after change but no they have their very right opinions.. which i do respect but sometimes they do upset me. Brakshit23 (talk) 10:34, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Brakshit23 The only thing that you can do now is provide evidence that the reviewer grossly erred or violated policy, neither of which I think is the case- or show that the situation has changed since the rejection. If you can't show that, there's nothing more you can do other than revisit it when the situation changes(sources arrive in the future showing notability). 331dot (talk) 10:53, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Dear 331d0t, i am not looking at other bcz while showing other's error you waste your time and work is still stuck. if you want to look at edits from 2022 Feb onwards many improvements are there , direct mentions are also there but failing what sort of mentions you are requiring? agree on passing mentions but how about the direct one? if someone will check thoroughly you get idea of what i am writing and trying to convey. You need prominent mentions i am not sure your country is having news paper times of india economic times divya bhaskar. Business related sourcing partner DeBeers but reviewers not finding it write.
Thus, here i sought for help which can help me to improve more on this article. and shift it to main space of article. i have seen many articles they have more marketing content or as similar as my draft they have content , website ref are same issue is they have regular article. here i am not able to generate that hurts. i not blaming other or doubting others but unable to understand the POV. Brakshit23 (talk) 11:44, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

07:32:09, 2 August 2022 review of submission by Montecampo

I am wondering why the draft was declined. Pointers to improve the draft are appreciated. :)

Montecampo (talk) 07:32, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The "Early life and education" section is entirely unsourced. Theroadislong (talk) 08:12, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Montecampo: did you read the decline note? It's saying that there is too much content which is unsupported by referencing; for example, the entire 'Early life and education' section hasn't a single cite. Please see WP:BLP for advice on referencing articles on living people. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:13, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

13:43:44, 2 August 2022 review of submission by Strawberrytsunami


Can you let me know a few examples of sentences that aren't neutral in tone? Is there anything you'd expect to see on a page like this that would help it meet notability guidelines?

Thank you in advance!

Strawberrytsunami (talk) 13:43, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

13:49:35, 2 August 2022 review of submission by Wahab98

this article follows all the guideline and provided enough independent sources can you please elaborate reason for rejection? Wahab98 (talk) 13:49, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]



i have updated as well but unable to submit again kindly help

Wahab98 (talk) 13:55, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wahab98 Your drafts have been rejected and will not be considered further. Upcoming films generally do not merit articles. See the notability criteria for films. I suggest that you wait until the film is released, or you must show that there is something very unusual or noteworthy about the production itself (see Rust (suspended film) for an example). There doesn't seem to be. 331dot (talk) 14:08, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
and IMDb and Twitter are not reliable sources. Theroadislong (talk) 14:52, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hey There, Thank you for your response can you please check this Chaudhry – The Martyr , when i compare this with UmroAyyar A New Beginning i believe there is more information and notability, i believe maybe i am lacking somewhere i can surely update links provided and confirm authenticity. Do suggest
TIA, Happy Writing Wahab98 (talk) 05:25, 3 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

August 3

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