User talk:Eagleash

Will be editing on a slightly reduced basis for the foreseeable future. Eagleash (talk) 06:22, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

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Added this myself as it was not added when I joined the proj. and the links should be useful. Eagleash (talk) 13:18, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Peter Arnell

Hi Eagleash. My name is Joanne, I work for Peter Arnell. I see that you are an active member of WP:Brands and thought you might be willing to look at my edit request at Talk:Peter Arnell with some proposed additions, including his work on the Rbk brand for Reebok. Thanks! Joanne PA (talk) 15:50, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

Request on 19:26:50, 6 January 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Pch0807

• Pch0807 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Challavaripalli (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi Eagleash,

Thanks for reviewing the article. I have added this article about a rural small village. It doesn't have many references over the internet, the one reference that I added haven't been considered as reliable by the other reviewer. Please let me know how I can correct and publish this article.

Pch0807 (talk) 19:26, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

@Pch0807: Hello, and thank you for your message. I note that there was a reference to a school website(?) but that it has since disappeared. If there is a school, it gives some indication that it is a populated place and therefore *may* be notable; it may not be enough by itself though. I do not think that the earlier reviewer meant to imply that the reference was not reliable necessarily – there were just not enough sources for verification. I note that you messaged them at their talk page but I have not seen a response. References do not have to be online but it does make it easier for reviewers to consider. I would think if there is a population then there will be something to support this, possibly census results or the like. Having said that I'm afraid that without proper sourcing an article will not be accepted. Eagleash (talk) 04:15, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Jack Wells-Morrison

One of his relatives must have had some inside info, as this was created yesterday. I moved it to drafts, but in case it needs to be moved back later and I'm not around... Spike 'em (talk) 12:41, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

@Spike 'em: Thanks for the 'heads-up'; I saw the team and considered for about half-a-second before deciding, well no. Eagleash (talk) 13:26, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Nigel Borell

Hi Eagleash! If you have time, would you be able to take a look at Draft:Nigel Borell a second time? I've worked with the editor to fix up the in-line references, and they've added a more content for notability. --Prosperosity (talk) 06:42, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

Concern regarding User:Rithikvinayakmravi/sandbox

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Another sandbox draft I declined... no idea what's happened there, just two decline notices at the page and nothing else in the page hstory. Eagleash (talk) 21:13, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

Deleted article Comment of this comment's author

Eagleash,

The submission from my sandbox was indeed intended to be a Comment in the existing Wikipedia article "Original proof of Gödel's completeness theorem" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_proof_of_G%C3%B6del%27s_completeness_theorem ). I assumed, apparently incorrectly, that the people I submitted my proposed Comment to for review would be able to know its sandbox source and from that be able to determine its nature, so I didn't send them (they turn out to be you) details of that. On 2021-12-31 I put a description of my intended Comment on the article's talk page and asked for comments on it, but no one responded except Felix QW, who however did not make any formatting or technical content improvement suggestions back then, but did recently make one technical comment (praising as a "nifty idea" the article's obvious error that I explained in my proposed Comment). I did also put into the article a reference to the proposed Comment draft in the article's Talk page, but that was deleted with the explanation that references to their Talk page were not allowed in articles. Three weeks after I posted on the article's Talk page the request for comments on my proposed Comment and there had been no response other than Felix QW's, I took the bull by the horns and inserted the Comment into the article. Almost immediately Felix QW deleted it, with the comment that before reinserting my Comment I should discuss it on the article's talk page! The Comment itself contains all the useful discussion about itself that I can think of. Any suggestions? Dirsaka (talk) 10:04, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

@Dirsaka: Thank you for yor message. Articles for creation is not the correct location to propose changes to an article. FWIW, I am an 'AFC' reviewer whch does not necessarily require specialised knowledge on any particular subject. You did the correct thing in making a suggestion at the talk page but it was disruptive to insert your text in its entirety into the article itself. Articles present facts, preferably sourced and 'notes' and other comments within article content is unencyclopedic and amounts to 'talking' within articles. The other editor you mention seems to have some interest in the subject and probably the way to move forward now would be to contact them at their talk page or ping them at the article talk page. You can also use Template:Request edit at the article talk page to propose changes. Eagleash (talk) 12:52, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

The original article itself already contains an incidental Comment just below the Lemma which begins "Let k>=1. If every formula...", which Lemma states the conclusion of the induction on k argument. My Comment, on the other hand, is not incidental, it is central to whether the so-called "proof" is correct. There is hardly anything more nearly certain, and so a "fact", than a conclusion (correctly) derived from the rules of logic, as I think my Comment is. I listed two fairly advanced books as references for my comment, but all that is really required is the half-joking "Aristotle" reference for basic logic. While induction arguments can be very complex, the basic form of finite induction is simple, and the article's induction argument, which is hardly advanced mathematics, violates the logic of this form. Felix QW has already sent me a message about my Comment, giving two criticisms of it. I think both are wrong, and will reply to him with my reasons. He is not an expert on the article's subject, and suggested waiting until some expert comes along to discuss it. How an expert would know to visit the article's Talk page, unless he/she notices a problem with the article, is not clear to me, since no notification of the existence of an issue with the article, to be discussed in Talk, is allowed in the article. I am myself a semi-expert in mathematical logic, having passed my Ph.D. qualifying exam in that subject. Kurt Gödel is (was) a recognized authority on the subject, but was more than a little weird on that and other subjects; he might be wrong, and subsequent experts on it, such as Stephen Kleene, too much influenced by his reputation, which was largely due to his (Gödel's) incompleteness theorem. I'll probably wait a little while, then reinsert my Comment (unless Felix QW or some expert convinces me that it is wrong). If it is again deleted, I'll likely just let Wikipedia continue to have this obviously defective "proof". The article does have the virtue of accurately representing Gödel's original proof, up to where my Comment was, even if Gödel was wrong. Dirsaka (talk) 17:43, 22 January 2022 (UTC) My final attempt to get the format correct failed. Dirsaka (talk) 17:46, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

@Dirsaka: I'm afraid I have litle if any interest in this article and probably even less knowledge of the subject; my only involvement has been to decline a submission which did not present as an encyclopedic entry. To make it clear, Wkipedia articles do not 'discuss' the topic within the actual article (any more than any other encyclopedia would) but the talk pages exist to suggest ways of improving articles. If you have received no response at a talk page then 'edit request' will flag up that there is a proposed change. Or, you can post at the WikiProject talk page; you should find Wikiproject 'banners' at the article talk page. I would fairly strongly request that you do not reinstate your edit at the article as this would probably be seen as disruptive and could even lead to the loss of editing privileges. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 18:52, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

Articles for creation: sandbox (January 25) St Brighid's Day

Thanks a lot for the feedback. The reason I prepared this article is that topic is fundamentally different to imbolc. Imbolc is ancient pre-Christian festival which we know from texts such as Cormac's Glossary, while St Bridgid's Day is a traditional rural festival, eg. crosses and brideogs which we have data from around the 17th century to the present. We know St Bridget has a following throughout the medieval period but we don't even how the festival was celebrated until about 300 years ago. The two festivals are intertwined, although the extent is unclear, but nevertheless, one is ancient festival and other post-medieval Catholic festival. I have been discussing a need to split the article on imbolc talk since April and I got support from people such as Bastun. Others flagged this issue back in 2017 Aerchasúr (talk) 13:00, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

@Aerchasur: Thank you for your message; to split an article, there is not typically a need to submit a draft for review. Please see WP:SPLIT fo rmore information. If the split has consensus, it can be carried out and the draft abandoned (it will then be deleted after 6 months) or deletion can be requested via WP:CSD. Cheers. Eagleash (talk) 13:11, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

Randy Mavinga

Hey @Eagleash. Thank you for approving my article 'Randy Mavinga'. How long approx will it take until it shows up on google searches? Sorry for what may seem a dumb question, I'm fairly new to this haha.

Thanks a lot! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Benpring112 (talk • contribs) 23:31, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

@Benpring: THe article is still subject to new page patrol; it will not be indexed by search engnes until that has occured or 90 days, whichever comes soonest. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 00:18, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	I published my first article on 29 January 2022. Even though it was redirected, I wish to appreciate for expedited action and valuable guidance. I will do my best to do better with your guidance. Neelesh Pandiyath (talk) 05:07, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

" Draft: Yaşar Vurdem page Request: confirmation of translated page

Hello dear Eagleash,

Thank you so much for your helps on this page for my translation Turkish to English. I double checked page and writing this talk message for your analysis approval for page release. Please let me know if i need to change something on page if need.

Draft page (English): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Ya%C5%9Far_Vurdem Original Source (Turkish): https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ya%C5%9Far_Vurdem — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peacesaa (talk • contribs) 17:32, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Best regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peacesaa (talk • contribs) 17:29, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Nomination of Pallab Bhattacharyya (IPS) for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Pallab Bhattacharyya (IPS) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pallab Bhattacharyya (IPS) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.

Djm-leighpark (talk) 12:02, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

@Djm-leighpark: Thank you for the message; this item seems rather confused... I noted your ES at the draft page and moved the AfC in article space accordingly, to remove the 'IPS'; as you said, there seems to be no other topic of that name and the page wth IPS attached is currently a redirect as far as I can tell. Other than removing the DaB and a bit of clean up, I Have not had dealings with the item. Cheers. Eagleash (talk) 13:08, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

Apologies. Standard Twinkle message. When I started the Twinkle AfD message it was on a page, when I hit publish (10 mins later) it was an redirect. I actually checked it hadn't moved before I published but for some reason I thought it hadn't moved .. hence mess which I hoped I've cleared up. Thankyou. Djm-leighpark (talk) 15:01, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

@Djm-leighpark: Thanks; not a problem, it appears to be OK (AFAICT). Eagleash (talk) 06:29, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

Zaha

Yes; no total rows are better than a misleading one. GiantSnowman 22:04, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Help request

Respected Sir, I published an article my first article on 29 January 2022. But it was redirected to draft. I worked on the same article and I wish to publish it again. Request for guidance please. I am an exserviceman of Indian Army, now homemaker and I am very much interested to contribute to Wikipedia. Request for valuable directions to publish my article successfully please.--Neelesh Pandiyath (talk) 03:54, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

@Neelesh Pandiyath: This appears to refer Draft:Ramapati Singhania (RS)? Please refer to the post at User talk:Neelesh Pandiyath#Draft:Ramapati Singhania (RS). Little appears to have been done to inprove the notability of the subject and it is of some concern that the first draft of this item was an exact copy of an earlier draft of Draft:Ramapati Singhania, including all the mistakes which had been corrected by others. That earlier draft was declined at least twice and then rejected. At which point you (presumably, as you admit to involvement in your OP above) moved it to mainspace, out of process. It was then sent to AfD (proposed for deletion) whereupon it was moved back to draft (again, by you or another account operated by you). I cannot really see that the item is worthy of a Wikipedia article as things stand and no amount of editing can overcome notability issues. Further, if you have not already done so please make the necessary declarations in respect of an additional account. The necessary link is in the post at your talk page. Creating a second account and then re-creating a rejected item is not looked upon favourably by the wider Wiki community. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 09:51, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

Respected Sir, Thank you for your valuable guidance. I have only one account in Wikipedia. I collected data initially from "Everybody Wiki" website. I got help from my friend also. After getting your guidance, I am doing more research on the subject since I admire the subject's accomplishments. Since you mention the notability of the subject is an issue, I will hold for now. I will go ahead in the future only after you give me clearance. Thank you--Neelesh Pandiyath (talk) 09:55, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Request on 08:10:45, 14 February 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by JasonHolmes11

• JasonHolmes11 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Save Ferris (Hip-Hip Artist/ Music Producer) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hey, I am trying to add an article "Save Ferris (Hip-Hop Artist/ Music Producer)"however, since it is an auto biography it has been rejected due to lack of notable resources. I have edited the article extensively now as far as resources go to hopefully comply more with Wikipedias rules. If this still isn't enough, I could really use some help because I am often confused with SKA-PUNK band "Save Ferris" since we share the same name. If a more experienced editor or someone could help me to publish this article it would be greatly appreciated to help my career. Thank you very much I look forward to resolving this problem. Thanks again

JasonHolmes11 (talk) 08:10, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

@JasonHolmes11: Thank you for your message. I have done a little 'tidying' of the item more inline with Wikipedia's conventions. However, there are still some pretty major issues with the draft. THe page was not declined as 'an autobiography with insufficient sourcing' as one issue but two separate problems. Autobiographical articles are strongly discouraged; see WP:AUTOBIO for more information and see this page for why they are not always a good idea.

The question of sourcing (I.e. notability) is also extremely important; the relevant guidelines can be found at WP:NMUSIC. Notability cannot be supported by MusicBrainz, Facebook, Discogs.com, Spotify, IMDb, Amazon, blogs or an artist's own PR and AllMusic only counts as support for notability if the site publishes a review of the album by one of its professional staff, and not if the album just has a purely WP:ROUTINE track listing.

As you are writing about yourself, you have a conflict of interest; please read that page and make the necessary declarations. Further, Wikipedia does not exist to promote an indvidual's career or for them to create 'profiles' in the manner of social media. As an encyclopedia, it reports on what has been written about a subject in multiple independent, reliable sources and has very little interest in what someone has to say about themselves.

I will also leave some relevant links at your talk page; please review tham carefully and finally, no amount of editing will overcome notabilty issues. If you have any further questions please do not hesitate to ask. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 10:27, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

WP:AFC Helper News

Hello! I wanted to drop a quick note for all of our AFC participants; nothing huge and fancy like a newsletter, but a few points of interest.

• AFCH will now show live previews of the comment to be left on a decline.
• The template {{db-afc-move}} has been created - this template is similar to {{db-move}} when there is a redirect in the way of an acceptance, but specifically tells the patrolling admin to let you (the draft reviewer) take care of the actual move.

Short and sweet, but there's always more to discuss at WT:AFC. Stop on by, maybe review a draft on the way? Whether you're one of our top reviewers, or haven't reviewed in a while, I want to thank you for helping out in the past and in the future. Cheers, Primefac, via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:59, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Gagandeep Singh Kenyan cricketer

Can I have get help from another writer for Kenyan cricketer Gagandeep Singh I can supply them with all the articles as reference if they wish on the mail address. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Princeguru90 (talk • contribs) 06:50, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

I would like a writer to write for me the above naked personal Wikipedia article, I can supply them with all the news articles for there reference. Princeguru90 (talk) 06:52, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

@Princeguru90: Hello, the place to request creation of an article is at WP:RA. However, there is no guarantee that an editor will take up the request and there may be a considerable delay before it gets any consideration. By far the quickest way, if you have reliable sources available, is to create the article yourself basing it around the draft you have already created. I would suggest that you review the guide to article creation and the manual of style. A cricketer will be required to pass the notability guidelines; there have been some 'changes' at WP:NSPORTS recently and WP:NCRIC is now of little, if any, use as when I last looked at it, it only listed umpires followed by a paragraph about qualifying criteria which did not really apply to anything. I would recommend that you read some articles on similar topics to see how they are laid out and structured. Good luck. Eagleash (talk) 12:19, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi mate, I have made the articles kindly have a look and help in getting sorted out pls Princeguru90 (talk) 14:21, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

If you are referring to Gagandeep Singh (cricketer, born 1991), I see the item has been proposed for deletion. As the subject has not played first class or list A cricket or any matches complying with WP:NCRIC, I cannot disagree with the proposal and therefore am unable to assist. Eagleash (talk) 23:26, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Reece Hannam

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About Draft: Jeyhun Ali

Draft:Jeyhun Ali (edit | [[Talk:Draft:Jeyhun Ali|talk]] | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Hi. I need information about current situation of draft page of Jeyhun Ali. It is ready for publishing. When will the article’s draft version be confirmed in order to get article status? Sincerely Orkhan Juvarli (talk) 19:24, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

@Orkhan Juvarli: Thank you for your message; as far as I can see the page has not yet been submitted for review. If you feel it is ready for mainspaces, you can submit by placing {{subst:submit}} at the top of the markup. (Just what you see rendered here, including the curly brackets). This will produce a review notice; you will need to be patient as there is typically a large backlog. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 19:38, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

Thank you! Orkhan Juvarli (talk) 05:03, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

@Eagleash Colleague, I have a favor to ask of you. This article is available in three languages. Please, can you help me add them to this draft?

Azerbaijani version: https://az.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceyhun_Əli

Turkish version: https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceyhun_Ali

Russian version: https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Алиев,_Джейхун_Юсиф_оглы. Sincerely Orkhan Juvarli (talk) 05:21, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

@Orkhan Juvarli: Before going any further please, confirm whether this is an autobiography. If so, please see that page for why that type of article is discouraged and also here for why it is not always a good idea. Thank you. Eagleash (talk)

@Eagleash:: This is definitely not my biography. It is about one of the famous anchorman of Azerbaijan. Jeyhun Ali is a well known news present and journalist. His activities proof that he is an encyclopedic person. It is not information about a regular person. Having articles in 3 languages confirms that. Orkhan Juvarli (talk) 16:29, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

@Orkhan Juvarli: OK, thank you for clarifying; I have added the links. Eagleash (talk) 08:47, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter May 2022

New Page Review queue March 2022

Hello Eagleash,

At the time of the last newsletter (No.26, September 2021), the backlog was 'only' just over 6,000 articles. In the past six months, the backlog has reached nearly 16,000, a staggering level not seen in several years. A very small number of users had been doing the vast majority of the reviews. Due to "burn-out", we have recently lost most of this effort. Furthermore, several reviewers have been stripped of the user right for abuse of privilege and the articles they patrolled were put back in the queue.

Several discussions on the state of the process have taken place on the talk page, but there has been no action to make any changes. The project also lacks coordination since the "position" is vacant.

In the last 30 days, only 100 reviewers have made more than 8 patrols and only 50 have averaged one review a day. There are currently 816 New Page Reviewers, but about a third have not had any activity in the past month. All 847 administrators have this permission, but only about a dozen significantly contribute to NPP.

This means we have an active pool of about 450 to address the backlog. We cannot rely on a few to do most of the work as that inevitably leads to burnout. A fairly experienced reviewer can usually do a review in a few minutes. If every active reviewer would patrol just one article per day, the backlog would very quickly disappear.

If you have noticed a user with a good understanding of Wikipedia notability and deletion, do suggest they help the effort by placing {{subst:NPR invite}} on their talk page.

If you are no longer very active on Wikipedia or you no longer wish to be part of the New Page Reviewer user group, please consider asking any admin to remove you from the list. This will enable NPP to have a better overview of its performance and what improvements need to be made to the process and its software.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Great Moments of Change

A tag has been placed on Great Moments of Change requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:

user talk page moved to mainspace, but can't be moved back

Under the criteria for speedy deletion, pages that meet certain criteria may be deleted at any time.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. PRAXIDICAE💕 13:31, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

@Praxidicae: Not sure what this is about; not an item I created and do not recall the pagename off the top of my head; looks like there's been some recent page-moving and it may be one where suppressing a redirect was not appropriate, something has been restarted in a location 'moved from', so I get messages later? Eagleash (talk) 15:05, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

It's from an incompetent editors page move fuckery. Sorry. PRAXIDICAE💕 15:05, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

@Praxidicae: Ah, OK, thanks. Eagleash (talk) 15:09, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

Notice of article re-creation with prooof and draft deletion

Hi Eagleash, as you're already aware, a lot of new/inexperienced editors of WP — especially in Africa — are always rushing to create articles proof. Another user by the Gonnym did the same thing here to a a related stub article on an upcoming production in Barbie: Big City, Big Dreams. My point is that the article you helped in deleting/moving to draftspace titled 2023 Africa Cup of Nations qualification Group I on the simple grounds of proof per notability and verifiability are now in the past. By the end of this day I'm writing to you, you, along with Glane23 will thank me/back me up with providing proofs so as not to re-delete the article. A lot of Africans need this — if not you!! Thanks!!! Intrisit (talk) 18:27, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

@Intrisit: I cannot tell what you are asking for here? An article was moved to main without any sourcing; it was subsequently returned to draft, where it should have remained while being developed. However it was returned to main without improvement. I should have requested deletion at that point but gave whoever created the item another chance by moving it back to draft, where it was submitted twice, without adding sources and declined twice as a result. I note that it has now been declined for a different reason. I also note that you requested deletion for no valid reason and that said request has been refused. Wikipedia does not need an article on a tournament a year in the future, necessarily and does not base its content on what various groups of people might want, but on various valid criteria for the creation of articles. Eagleash (talk) 19:07, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

I haven't provided the sourcing yet myself — but apologies for rushing!! I just issued a notice meant for you and the WP admins here. Please don't take what I'm replying to you as a defense against whoever provided the unsourced article info, but I just couldn't stand an article like that moved to draftspace only on sourcing problems/grounds because of the AfC line which states that "worthy drafts take ages to be move to the mainspace." That's why I did that!! And by the way, I have the sources — my last 2 problems until I provide them to show proof are the easing of P2P blocks at my connection and merging those sources into that draft!! Again, apologies!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Intrisit (talk • contribs) 6 June 2022 19:45 (UTC)

• Right... none the wiser really. Eagleash (talk) 20:51, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Sebastian Delfi

Hi Eagleash, Thank you for reviewing the biography on Sebastian Delfi. I have resubmitted the article with adjustments made by adding more references. If you have time to review it again that will be great! If there's anything i can do to make the article better your guidance would be greatly appreciated. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Apollosouthpaw (talk • contribs) 23:38, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

@Apollosouthpaw: THank you for leaving me a message. Please link to any pages you wish to discuss on talk pages. I have had a brief look at the draft again and tidied slightly. Please note that Facebook and Transfermarkt should not be used as references per WP:UGC and WP:TRANSFERMARKT, respectively. I am still of the opinion that the sporting notability guidelines have not been met but will not 're-review' at this stage (having worked on the item a bit) but will allow one of my colleagues on the review panel to re-assess it. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 06:46, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi Eagleash, thank you your message has been kindly noted and more references have been added as a result. I was hoping your colleague could re-assess the draft:Sebastian Delfi, this would be greatly appreciated! Thank you! Apollosouthpaw (talk) 13:04, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

Oops e/c

didn't' mean to drive by here. The script failed on me as I was trying to decline after moving. Apologies for E/C. Bad script. NO cookies ;-) Star Mississippi 21:36, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Draft: Sebastian Delfi (2)

Hi Eagleash, thank you your message has been kindly noted and more references have been added as a result. I was hoping your colleague could re-assess the draft:Sebastian Delfi, this would be greatly appreciated! Thank you!Apollosouthpaw (talk) 19:23, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

@Apollosouthpaw: Thank you for your message; the draft is in the review system and someone on the review panel will get to it in due course; the review notice contains a comment that this can take some time as there is usually a considerable backlog. I am of the opinion that the subject does not meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT but as I say will leave it to others to decide. Eagleash (talk) 19:38, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi Eagleash, greatly appreciate your comment. Sebastian Delfi, is a Australian former professional footballer in the Serbian Prva Liga (First League). We have added more then enough reference to cover the criteria of Wikipedia for a professional sportsperson. If there is anything to make this article better your assistance is greatly appreciated! Once again thank you for your quick response! Apollosouthpaw (talk) 12:34, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter June 2022

New Page Review queue June 2022

Hello Eagleash,

Backlog status

At the time of the last newsletter (No.27, May 2022), the backlog was approaching 16,000, having shot up rapidly from 6,000 over the prior two months. The attention the newsletter brought to the backlog sparked a flurry of activity. There was new discussion on process improvements, efforts to invite new editors to participate in NPP increased and more editors requested the NPP user right so they could help, and most importantly, the number of reviews picked up and the backlog decreased, dipping below 14,000 at the end of May.

Since then, the news has not been so good. The backlog is basically flat, hovering around 14,200. I wish I could report the number of reviews done and the number of new articles added to the queue. But the available statistics we have are woefully inadequate. The only real number we have is the net queue size.

In the last 30 days, the top 100 reviewers have all made more than 16 patrols (up from 8 last month), and about 70 have averaged one review a day (up from 50 last month).

While there are more people doing more reviews, many of the ~730 with the NPP right are doing little. Most of the reviews are being done by the top 50 or 100 reviewers. They need your help. We appreciate every review done, but please aim to do one a day (on average, or 30 a month).

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NPP July 2022 backlog drive is on!

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Request on 14:57:32, 12 July 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Kayzed4343

• Kayzed4343 (talk · contribs)
  • User:Kayzed4343/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Kayzed4343 (talk) 14:57, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

@Kayzed4343: I am not sure what you are asking for here. I have looked at the draft again today and as far as I can see there has been no improvement made to it. Eagleash (talk) 16:12, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Some baklava for you!

Thank you very much for fixing the references. I do not understand why it gave errors to me at first. Utku Öziz (talk) 14:52, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

@Utku Oziz: Thank you. It seems that part of the quote was moved on to a new line unnecessarily (line feed error msg) and in respect of writer names 'last' on its own is OK but 'first' on its own isn't. No writer names at all also works but maybe not recommended! Eagleash (talk) 00:07, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

Purgatory

How did you even see that? I want to know what to look for so I don't have this issue again. dannymusiceditor ^oops 20:51, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

@DannyMusicEditor: The red error message in the refs section will state the position of the anomaly. Count the characters till you reach the indicated No. – the cursor will 'stall' and require extra clicks to get past the error. Erase and replace. Eagleash (talk) 21:07, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

Some bubble tea for you!

I appreciate your work! Nitinbajaj2 (talk) 15:54, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

@Nitinbajaj2: Thank you; happy editing. Eagleash (talk) 00:32, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

CopyVio and AfC

Try and include the url of the copyvio or copy of earwig report so that other reviewers can see what the issue is if a person comes to the help desk. I have also CSD article because it is impossible to easily remove the violation. Slywriter (talk) 22:46, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

@Slywriter: Which article or draft are you referring to? I can only recall noting one CV in recent reviewing and in that instance entering a URL in the field provided when declining. I do note however, that this doesn't always seem to work as it should. Eagleash (talk) 00:17, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

User:Mschusky/sandbox/Irving_Dilliard Certainly could be an issue with the Helper script. Slywriter (talk) 00:21, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

@Slywriter: Ah yes, that's the one. I was considering CSD myself as it was a reasonably serious vio; but I always prefer to give creators the opportunity to sort things out if they can. Yep, newer editors do tend to think help desk volunteers are psychic so a certain amount of searching becomes necessary! Eagleash (talk) 02:58, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

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In anticipation of the new season...

Not sure if this is just a random oversight, but the Palace 1st team page has Killian Phillips listed (though he wasn't on the list of numbers they released a couple of days ago). In case it does mean something, I created Draft:Killian Phillips, and have already attracted some vitriol about it! Spike 'em (talk) 15:44, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

@Spike 'em: Wouldn't surprise me if it were a standard CPFC foul up; I know the name but nothing more than that. Vitriol? From whom? Anyway, I'll bear it mind; as an aside the website seemed to show only 2 squads (+ the ladies) when last I looked. Eagleash (talk) 16:21, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure he wasn't on the squad page when I checked a day or 2 ago (when the numbers were released the 2 lists seemed to match). The vitriol is on the draft talk page, it is more a personal dispute from someone I reported for socking, who thinks my spag could be improved! It does seem that renaming the U23s to U21s is beyond the web admins at the moment! Spike 'em (talk) 16:26, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

@Spike 'em: Almost WP:NPA, clearly personal but engaging or warning would be provocative, I reckon. As Bretonbanquet has been known to say 'they live amongst us'. Eagleash (talk) 16:49, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter August 2022

New Page Review queue August 2022

Hello Eagleash,

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Request on 17:48:26, 7 August 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Mschusky

Draft:Irving Dilliard

• Mschusky (talk · contribs)
  • User:Mschusky (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello Eagleash, thanks for looking over my "Irving Dilliard" draft article and pointing out my copyright issues and your "Speedy Deletion" message of August 3 2020. I have attempted to fix those problems and created a Draft Irving Dilliard page. Prior to submitting it "officially" to Wikipedia for possible inclusion, is there a way to ask for editing / etc. advice? Thanks so much. Mschusky (talk) 17:48, 7 August 2022 (UTC)mschusky

Mschusky (talk) 17:48, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

@Mschusky: Hello, and thank you for your message. I did review the page initially but it was another editor who nominated it for speedy deletion (see thread somewhere above this one). I have looked at the draft in its current form and tidied it a little. The copy-vio issues seem to have largely been addressed so you could, if you so wished, re-submit the draft for review. I note you have also approached Jimfbleak for assistance; it is not always a good idea to ask for help in various locations; not only can you be accused of WP:CANVAS but you may get conflicting or confusing advice. Writing an article is not always easy and there are lots of pitfalls that newer editors encounter. If you have not already done so, please see WP:YFA and WP:TUTORIAL for future reference. Happy editing. Eagleash (talk) 18:41, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

Thanks so much for your assistance @Eagleash. Apologies for my newbie-ness, including asking @Jimfbleak for assistance as well — I was not aware this was a faux pas and will refrain from asking multiple people the same questions in the future. I will also devote more time to the tutorials and other links you provided. Your time, attention and help is much appreciated! Mschusky (talk) 19:19, 7 August 2022 (UTC)mschusky