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Daniell cell: removal of WP:REFSPAM

Thanks for your edit summary explaining that if I remove WP:REFSPAM, I'm also supposed to remove statements which would otherwise remain unsourced. I'll go through my recent edits in this matter and see whether it happened elsewhere, too; I think it might have. I just wanted to let you know, on the off chance that you might want to check my recent edits yourself, that I'm perfectly okay with that. IpseCustos (talk) 10:24, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

I'm not saying you should remove absolutely everything this editor has added, but that passage was clearly connected with the FRINGE claims that people at the COIN discussion were concerned with. If the material was already in the article before the cite was added, I would leave it in, even if unsourced, unless there is reason to think it is suspicious. SpinningSpark 10:43, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Ancient systems of elements

Hello, Spinningspark,

I thought I'd let you know that your draft has been deleted in case you were interested in continuing your work on it. I hope you are well! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:25, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

Thanks Liz. I'm happy to leave it dead for now. It was basically storage for inappropriate material moved out of another article. There may be more to add in the future, but I'm not inclined to find better homes for it in mainspace, especially the uncited stuff, and apparently neither were any of the other editors on the page involved. SpinningSpark 06:40, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

I understand, I'm just kind of stickler for informing page creators when their pages are deleted. You are different because as an admin, you can look at your Deleted Contributions but ordinary editors might not even realize their drafts or main space articles have been deleted if they don't receive a notice of some kind. FireflyBot will notify draft editors 5 months after the page has last been edited but, unfortunately, it will only post this notice once...if you get the bot notice, edit the draft and it goes another 5 or 6 months with no further activity, you won't get a second notice from FireflyBot. One and done. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:50, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

June 2022

Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, discussion pages are meant to be a record of a discussion; deleting or editing legitimate comments is considered bad practice, even if you meant well. Even making spelling and grammatical corrections in others' comments is generally frowned upon, as it tends to irritate the users whose comments you are correcting. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Among Us for POTUS (talk • contribs) 19:07, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

@Among Us for POTUS: What the hell are you talking about? Your revert of my contribution did not restore anyone elses comment, nor did I remove any in my edit. Please take your templated warning and stick it up your own talk page where it belongs for removing my contribution. SpinningSpark 19:24, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't read the diff correctly. You can put the contribution back and ignore this warning, but please be civil. Among Us for POTUS (talk) 19:27, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

@Among Us for POTUS: I said please. That's as civil as you are going to get over this. You are the one who removed another user's comment so it is quite appropriate to template yourself, where additionally it would not be contrary to this essay. SpinningSpark 19:37, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

I did not realize you're a regular editor and I did not act in bad faith, as that specific essay mentions. Also, essays are not policies. This does not deserve such a long argument. Among Us for POTUS (talk) 19:56, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

If you make a mistake like that you should restore it yourself. But you are clearly not watching pages you edit, otherwise you would have noticed that another editor has already reverted you. SpinningSpark 19:50, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

I was going to restore it once you replied to this. And, no, I do not follow every page I edit unless it's persistent vandalism. Nobody told me that I should. Among Us for POTUS (talk) 19:58, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

a quick question

hey buddy, its me again..

real quick, im just wondering how people have the topics on their talk page i guess you might say "hidden".. im on a mobile device and when i view certain users talk pages, i dont see any talk topics until i select "read as wiki page".. then they all appear in expanded format. here is a link as an example of what i mean: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Doniago

thanks in advance, and sorry to bug you as always. Snarevox (talk) 17:20, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

In the case of Doniago's page, it appears to be due to some CSS code inserted at the top of the page. No idea whether that is an intentional effect or just a side-effect of the code doing something else. If Doniago is using desktop view they may not even have noticed. You'll have to ask the user concerned. SpinningSpark 08:16, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

thank you, i appreciate the reply. one more thing has really been bugging me and i promise ive been trying to find this answer now for almost 2 weeks as i really wanted to avoid asking you another question so soon..

my question is, articles for television shows, when you select "list of episodes" the target page has an episode table in the "episodes" section, and alot of times the episode titles in those episode tables link to a separate corresponding article for each episode..

why do some shows have a separate article for every individual episode (ie.. seinfeld and the office (the usa version)) while other shows only have separate articles for some of their episodes (ie.. the cosby show), and yet other shows still, dont have separate articles for any of their episodes (ie.. two and a half men). the episode list page for this last category of shows just has an episode table where the episode titles dont link to anything because separate articles for these episodes do not exist for whatever reason.

im trying to figure out what determines why some shows have a separate article for every episode, and some shows only have separate articles for some episodes, and some shows dont have separate articles for any episodes.

also, if i want to craft a link to an internal wikipedia page, im aware that the syntax for my link needs to be capitalized and spelled exactly the same as the title at the top of the target page, my problem is, for example, the title at the top of the seinfeld shows page is "Seinfeld", but it is italicized. do i need to include those italics in the syntax of my link in order for it to function properly, or is correct spelling and capitalization enough?

im sorry if this is too long, or stupid, or if any part of it doesnt make sense. i really do attempt to google these things prior to bugging you, but i cant ever seem to find exactly what im looking for. sometimes i get lost in wikipedia help pages or trying to articulate something to google that only a human with actual experience is truly going to understand and hopefully have an answer to.

i hope this finds you well. have a good night.

p.s. here are links to the episode list pages for the shows i used in my examples to make it easier for you if you would like to see the differences i am referring to.

seinfeld (the episode section on this page has every episode title linked to a separate article): https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Seinfeld_episodes

the office (every episode title is linked to a separate article, just like seinfeld): https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Office_(American_TV_series)_episodes

the cosby show (only some episode titles link to separate articles for this show): https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Cosby_Show_episodes

two and a half men (none of the episode titles link to separate articles here): https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Two_and_a_Half_Men_episodes

the end. Snarevox (talk) 04:42, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

• Whether or not TV series get individual articles for episodes is primarily decided by WP:Notability. That is, that specific episode must be demonstrated to be notable by being discussed in reliable sources. There is some good advice at Wikipedia:Notability (television)#Television episodes. Lack of an episode article does not necessarily mean it is not notable. It might just mean that no one has got round to writing the page yet.
• On italics, no, you should not put italic markup in links, that will cause them not to work. The real article title (as seen by the Wikimedia software) does not include any typeface decorations such as italics, bolding or point size and it is, in fact, impossible to put these in because of the way the software is built. The way italics are displayed is by changing the rendered text in your browser, usually through the use of the template {{Italic title}} but there are others, such as ship names which are done via the ship infobox. See HMS Belfast for instance.

If you need the link to show the correct italicisation you should put the italics outside the square brackets. For instance ''[[Seinfeld]]'' renders as Seinfeld whereas [[''Seinfeld'']] renders as the redlink ''Seinfeld''. If you want only part of the link italicised you need to use a pipe. [[HMS Belfast|HMS ''Belfast'']] renders as HMS Belfast. SpinningSpark 13:31, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

thank you for taking the time to help me out, i really do appreciate your patience. Snarevox (talk) 06:48, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

hi there,

i noticed you archived your old talk page, im assuming you did this because it was relatively full. how does one accomplish such a thing? it looks like you just added "/archive" to the url, but i have no idea how its done.

also, i have a quick question regarding redundancy. on the following page: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.N.L.V._(group) there was a link in the discography section on the 4th item "uptown 4 life".. when i clicked the link it just refreshed the page and a little box popped up at the bottom of my screen saying "redircted from uptown 4 life"..

i felt as though this was rather redundant, so i edited it and removed the link brackets, leaving the album title. then i got curious, wondering to myself, does this page i was redirected from really exist if i cant even visit the link for it?

so i used the wikipedia search box and entered the text for the removed link "uptown 4 life", this brought me to the following disambiguation page: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNLV_(disambiguation)

my question is, how did the link i removed know to redirect me back to the main article, and why did my search for the text for that link bring me to the disambiguation page? ive done some html coding in the past and i feel like the answer involves keywords inserted into like a meta tag or something, but im really not sure. any advice would be great.

lastly, was i wrong to delete the redundant link from the main article? i cant fathom any reason a page needs to contain a link that just redirects back to itself.

im sure you have more important things to do besides replying to me. so please respond at your leisure, it isnt anything critical to my mission. i hope youre doing well. thanks again. take care. Snarevox (talk) 08:25, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

Snarevox, will you please start a new section for new questions in the future rather than keep adding to the same thread. This section is becoming a bloated wall of text.

On archiving, I wouldn't advise you to archive in the way that I do it. My method is no longer recommended, but I have been doing it this way for years since before there were better options. The simplest way to archive is to cut-and-paste the thread you want to archive to your archive page. The most common naming for user archive pages is like User talk:Snarevox/Archive 1, then when that one is full create Archive 2, Archive 3 etc. Your talk page is not very busy at all so that will be fine for you. In your own userspace you can name and organise archives however you like. On article talk pages follow what has already been set up for that page. For busy pages, there are various bots that can automatically archive threads for you. The two most commonly used nowadays are User:ClueBot III and User:lowercase sigmabot III. Follow the instructions on their pages if you want to use either one of them.

On the page redirect, these happen because someone has created a redirect page, in this case Uptown 4 Life. You were quite right to remove the circular link. These happen quite often when it is decided a page is not notable enough for its own article and is redirected to another article that discusses it. That other article may have contained a link to the redirected article, but nobody noticed at the time. It can also happen because someone creates a redlink for an article they think should exist, and later on someone else creates a redirect back to the page containing the (former, now blue) redlink. SpinningSpark 07:22, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

10001 (number)

Hello Spark, you closed the RfD for this as Delete, but I still see the page. Jay (talk) 17:29, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, done now. There must have been a hiccup in the script. SpinningSpark 21:33, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

Balla railway station

Hello, I encountered the Balla railway station article on new page patrol. I noticed that you A10 speedily deleted an earlier version to move Balla Railway Station into its place. The preexisting Talk:Balla railway station and incoming links suggest that the old page was about a railway station in County Mayo, Ireland that was overwritten with the station in Bangladesh. Can you check the deleted page's history and dab the two stations if necessary? • Gene93k (talk) 20:07, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

@Gene93k: Thanks for bringing that to my attention, it should be fixed now. I hadn't noticed the editor had overwritten an existing page with a duplicate. They are being a major pain all round. SpinningSpark 15:29, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

File:Paleo-cosmic flux.svg

Hello Spinningspark,

sorry about that edit, that was automatic and I didn't notice it, else I would have reverted it myself. I just used the export process to import the original file versions to Wikimedia Commons because of your complaint at c:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Paleo-cosmic flux.svg. Regards --Rosenzweig (talk) 19:32, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. All forgiven. SpinningSpark 19:39, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia_talk:Wikipedia_Signpost/2022-08-01/Humour

Your tears of rage give me power. But seriously, I thought it funny in context: twenty-one amazing articles, then you get to Humour and it's so pathetic that it's kind of circles back to funny. Also, I can slightly justify it by saying I did three other articles, and also researched the From the Archives, and copyedited like ten of the articles, so I might have been a little silly by then. Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 8% of all FPs} 17:10, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

Also, great title for your comment. Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 8% of all FPs} 17:14, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

Your message on the AFD of Koogle

I thought your edit summary telling me to "give it a rest," felt a bit curt, but attempting to AGF. I do not agree I was "text-walling," I just still don't understand why you want to keep this article, but it is not personal of course. WP:TEXTWALL: However, an equal-but-opposite questionable strategy is dismissal of legitimate evidence and valid rationales with a claim of "text-walling" or "TL;DR". Not every matter can be addressed with a one-liner, and validity does not correspond to length, especially the more complex the matter is. The COTD is characterized by noise and hand-waving, not simply verbosity. Andre🚐 22:37, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

Help with proposed edits for Devialet article

Hi there. I proposed edits to fix numerous problems on the Devialet article on the Talk page: Talk:Devialet#Devialet Request Edits for July 2022. I’m an employee of the company and can’t edit the page due to WP:COI - are you able to review the requests? Thanks!Beautreillis6698 (talk) 13:55, 24 August 2022 (UTC)