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On 12 June 2021, it was proposed that this article be moved from GCE Advanced Level to A-Level. The result of the discussion was moved. |
Duplication
For some reason the entire article had become duplicated - a version with no page breaks coming before the subtitled version. I have deleted the first occurrence and attempted to neaten up the layout slightly, but have not yet checked thoroughly for any changes between the two versions of each paragraph. Sorry if any edits have been lost - feel free to revert if anything important is missing. ALexL33 (talk) 10:33, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
The references in the second paragraph in the "In The UK" section are not done correctly but I do not have time to work out how to fix them at the moment - I believe they were like that before my edit however. No offense intended to whoever wrote that paragraph originally, its just a formality. ALexL33 (talk) 10:39, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
Confused
Hi, on this page i didn't see any external links for people who are confused about what to choose to study with a need for careers advice. Do you know any websites you could possible add? I'm a bit stuck with what to study for a-levels myself so any websites directing to careers advisors would be good. Someone65 (talk) 19:12, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
Under the heading "Growing Controversy", second paragraph, last sentence there is a reference to UMS. What does this stand for? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.142.62.133 (talk) 02:24, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
In The UK
The citation numbers are all messed up in the second paragraph and the citations don't seem to be relevant to the facts they're attached to.
This second paragraph is also a bit of a messy list of figures, could do with a bit of tidying up. Reketrebn (talk) 21:29, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
Pre-University?
As I understand it, A-levels are pre-university qualifications and are therefore not equivalent to say, an American High School, but rather to the first year of an American University Education. That said, the reason why I am bringing this up is because there is a Wikipedia article on pre-university education but the article only deals pre-university education in India. I would like to expand the scope of that article, or at least create a new one that includes A-levels, Cambridge Pre-U, etc. But before I do that, is there a general consensus that pre-university is a generic term that can refers to A-level type qualifications? Any thoughts? mezzaninelounge (talk) 19:45, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
More history required re: Coursework
When did A Levels introduce coursework as part of the exam?
Up until the 80s, at least, coursework didn't count towards the final mark in England, Wales and Northern Ireland. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.112.226.132 (talk) 18:48, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
Faulty links
Reference 36 should have split in its "title", rather than in the link itself. I don't know how to fix this myself so I thought I'd bring it to your attention here. 86.132.18.208 (talk) 16:32, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
- (Now reference number 37) 81.156.37.115 (talk) 22:27, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
- And now number 38. 86.183.34.118 (talk) 18:52, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
The History of A Level 1951-2000
In the section of the article with this heading, the figures for the proportion of each cohort awarded a particular grade do not tally with the figures given in the source referred to in footnote 1. The figures given in the source (p. 10) are A 10% B 15% C 10% D 15% E 20% O-F 30% — Preceding unsigned comment added by Graham Gould (talk • contribs) 22:10, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
Subjects offered
I have reinstated the list of subjects offered which I originally added with no sources leading to it being removed. It is in a new table showing the exam boards each subject is offered by. I'd just like to mention that there may be some errors in the OCR column as I had difficulty navigating the exam boards website properly. Fhah4 (talk) 18:53, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
Grades table
The table under "Grade inflation" lists various percentages to one decimal place (e.g., 12.7) but others with no decimal places (e.g., 13). If these figures are meant to represent the exact percentage to one decimal place, then the decimal place should be included (e.g., 13.0). Omitting the decimal place implies imprecision (i.e., 13 could be anywhere from 12.500 to 13.499 but 13.0 could only be from 12.950 to 13.049). If these figures are accurate to one decimal place, can someone please put back the missing .0 in each case? —sroc 💬 03:47, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
Requested move 10 May 2014
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The result of the move request was: page moved to alternative suggestion A-level. See also closing comment. Andrewa (talk) 13:07, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
GCE Advanced Level → A level – Per WP:CommonName. The article itself makes it clear that "A level" is overwhelmingly the name people actually use for these qualifications, with the official name being used so infrequently it makes a good quiz question ("What is the official name for A levels?"). Wikipedia naming policy is, in these cases, to use the common name rather than the official name, unless the common name is ambiguous or misleading. Given that A level and A-level are straightforward redirects to this page, I think it's fair to say that we haven't found them ambiguous or misleading names. 86.146.28.229 (talk) 10:27, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
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- Support. Clearly the WP:COMMONNAME, we don't need to use the WP:OFFICIALNAME. [1] vs [2]. No issue with WP:PRIMARYTOPIC as A Level already redirects here. Zarcadia (talk) 13:19, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
- Can we do A-level instead? "A level" to me, is, well, a level. But if sources really prefer the unhyphenated version, that's okay too. Red Slash 16:30, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
- Oppose as proposed per Red Slash. It should be A-Level or A-level. -- 65.94.171.206 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 05:34, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
- Support A-Level/A-level with dash/hyphen. Not sure about the finer points of capitalisation and punctuation regarding this one. walk victor falk talk 10:39, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
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Closing comment: Note that the record of a previous move from this name 18:56, 28 August 2006 J Di (talk | contribs | block) . . (28 bytes) (+28) . . (moved A-level to Advanced Level: the article about GCSEs is at General Certificate of Secondary Education, not GCSE) has been overwritten by this move. Andrewa (talk) 13:07, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
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The Hong Kong section is an opinion, backed by some information
This does not seem to be NPOV, but a response to another claim somewhere else. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.73.22.113 (talk) 23:49, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
- Agree. It is also not written in an encyclopedic tone. Djagr (talk) 12:21, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
Requested move 23 October 2015
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The result of the move request was: Not moved per consensus here, and evaluating the 2014 proposal between A Level and A-level also support keeping the page with it's current name. (non-admin closure) Tiggerjay (talk) 21:16, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
A-level → A Level – The hyphenated form is presumed to be adjectival. The proposed capitalised noun form is more encyclopedic and is consistent with the terms used in the article. Bjenks (talk) 01:02, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
- Oppose this makes it distinctive, instead of appearing as a level (level) -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 06:21, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
- We already have A road, A unit, A major, A minor and A share. Peter James (talk) 10:22, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
- Yeah, those also suck. A-unit, A-major, A-minor, Class-A share would be better; a road is a disambiguation page, so it ok as it is, since it isn't a topic article, it is a dpage -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 09:10, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
- We already have A road, A unit, A major, A minor and A share. Peter James (talk) 10:22, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
- Weak oppose it looks like both are equally acceptable, and it probably was adjectival at first, as it's a qualification, not a level, but in the plural form (as used by BBC news) is clearly a noun. Peter James (talk) 10:22, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
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New A-Levels
I propose to add information about the new A-Levels introduced from 2017 onwards. (see here for details). (I do not know enough about this and am probably not experienced enough to add it myself and format it in the the right way but I think it would be important to mention it). Edward1612 (talk) 19:23, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
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Making the article more accessible
There's a basic problem in this article of assuming people already know what terms like "sixth form" mean. Actually, if you're not from countries that use this term like myself then you don't know what this is. I have no idea what age this refers to (16, 17, 18). It's a common problem on Wikipedia where people from particular countries just assume the entire world knows what terms like this refer to and then the article becomes inaccessible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.253.162.8 (talk) 10:08, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
I concur. Arosa (talk) 02:57, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
Information repeated twice. Should we merge?
Details on the UK A level reforms are mentioned in the intro and again under the section "current uses." Both are very similar. We should move combine the information (on reforms), in the intro, with the information, under the "England A level reforms," subheading in the "current uses," subcategory. This will means that the information is not repeated. Bigboxman8 (talk) 12:19, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
Made changes. Feel free to edit the section on UK reforms (under the "current uses," subcategory) if details are missing. Bigboxman8 (talk) 12:39, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
Total lack or references in the national sections
The sections are so well written but must be deleted as unreferenced text! Could the authors protect their work by sharing the references. Top bar of this edit-source editor- press cite, then select Templates tab- and from then on its all done for you. --ClemRutter (talk) 21:30, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
Requested move 12 June 2021
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The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Lennart97 (talk) 11:43, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
GCE Advanced Level → A-Level – Moved in 2016 ignoring a RM consensus to keep at A-Level (see [3]). A-Level is now a redirect so I can't move the page back to it. — Berrely • Talk∕Contribs 12:36, 12 June 2021 (UTC) —Relisting. (t · c) buidhe 05:49, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
- This is a contested technical request (permalink). Sam Sailor 15:31, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- Five years is a considerable amount of time with nobody objecting, but let's here what people say. Sam Sailor 15:31, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
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- Are there sources using these respective names? BD2412 T 03:50, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support - A Level is the WP:COMMONNAME and is ubiquitous in the country of focus for this article. Most of the sources for this article appear to use "A Level". GCE Advanced Level is an official name to which we should not give too much weight. Mysterymanblue 07:08, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
- support clear wp:commonname—blindlynx (talk) 14:36, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support As a North American, I heard of "A Level" long before its official name Toomuchcuriosity (talk) 18:14, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
Article name
I appreciate that this issue has been discussed before, but shouldn't the article name be unhyphenated "A level" to match the usage in the lead? It is also the spelling used by the Department for Education If Wikipedia used the correct form it would assist in encouraging the proper usage. And if I'm wrong, then shouldn't the first sentence of the lead and other similar instances in the article be changed accordingly in order to be consistent? JezGrove (talk) 18:31, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
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