Talk:Anton Drexler

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Succeeded by: Adolf Hitler as Führer

It says "Succeeded by: Adolf Hitler (as Führer)" but i thought Hutler didn't become Führer till nearly two decades later? That title replaced the presidency of Hindenburg when he died. Irtapil (talk) 15:02, 11 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hitler was Fuhrer of the Nazi Party starting in 1921. "Fuhrer" simply means "Leader" or "Guide". Beyond My Ken (talk) 23:07, 11 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

BMK is correct; he became leader of the Party in 1921. That is what the article is referencing. Kierzek (talk) 23:21, 11 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Kierzek and Beyond My Ken: Possibly needs an explanatory note then, it reads as if it means Fuhrer of the nation, given that's the Fuhrer position Hitler is most well known as. Should the info box maybe have an English version "(as leaser of the Nazi party)", for clarity, and then the German version can go in the text where there's scope to explain the distinction. Irtapil (talk) 22:11, 15 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

for now it's (as [[Führer|leader]] of the party), change it if you can think of anything clearer. Irtapil (talk) 22:15, 15 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I think adding "of the party" is a good idea, but I have restored "Führer" as I think it's important to indicate that Hitler used this terminology with the Party before he did with the country. Also, I've added "dictatorial" because without it, the inference might be drawn that his position was equivalent to Drexler's chairmanship, just with another name, when, in fact, Hitler demanded and received dictatorial power along with the title as a condition of his returning to the Party after he had quit it. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:22, 15 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

far-right political agitator

I propose either removing the "far-right" label or finding a contemporary source that supports it. I'm not sure that the founder of the German Worker's Party can be qualified as right-wing in his contemporary political context, much less far-right. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:A040:18C:5081:C4B8:CB68:532E:6FCB (talk) 08:14, 6 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Inappropriate use of primary source

An editor is attempting to quote from Drexler's pamphlet inappropriately to support the inaccurate statement that Drexler was a socialist. This is, of course, related to the idea that the Nazis were socialists because the name of their party was the "National Socialist German Worker's Party". In reality, the Nazis were no more socialist than the various authoritarian communist "Democratic People's Republics" were democratic. The primary source needs secondary sources to provide the necessary context, which the editor has not provided. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:42, 25 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Is this also an inappropriate use of primary sources? Magnatyrannus (talk | contribs) 23:41, 25 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]