Talk:Lover (album)

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Unreliable source in article: Headline Planet

Just a polite fyi that Headline Planet is not a reliable source (has never been considered as such despite some incorrectly believing otherwise) and should not be used. This article cites information referenced from 4 diff HP articles so I am going to remove those refs+tag for citation needed (as I did on Folklore). I am sure the editors of this page will have no trouble finding actual reliable sources to supplement. Please see this discussion here for reference.--Carlobunnie (talk) 19:55, 5 August 2020 (UTC) (UTC)

Track listing, Dixie Chicks -> The Chicks

Hello,

I am suggesting an edit to the track listing to edit the track "Soon You'll Get Better (feat. the Dixie Chicks)" -> "... (feat. The Chicks)". This is how the track listing is listed on Spotify and iTunes/Apple Music, and is the group's updated name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.57.194.155 (talk) 04:25, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank You, but the credits are based on album booklet notes and the Lover album was released before the name change, so no. BawinV (talk) 10:42, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Per MOS:NEE, we say "the Dixie Chicks" as that was their name at the time of release. Case in point: Katy Hudson (album) was released by Katy Perry, but the name listed in the article is "Katy Hudson", as that was Perry's name at the time of recording. D💘ggy54321 ^(xoxo😘) 12:30, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Promo singles

Should "Death by a Thousand Cuts", "Daylight", and "Cornelia Street" be listed as promotional singles, given that the live versions were released onto iTunes? HĐ (talk) 10:13, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

@HĐ: I don’t think so. She just chose to perform them in Paris, and the live versions were released. As well, this was the last Lover-related promo before Folklore came out, so what would she be promoting? D🐶ggy54321 ^{(let's chat!)} 14:24, 9 March 2021 (UTC) (please ping on reply)

No, I don't think so. they were just live versions. BawinV (talk) 15:17, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

They certainly should as they were released as singles on iTunes & Spotify rather than as part of an EP or album. They had the same form of release as many songs considered full singles in the digital era, so there's no good reason not to. 2601:180:8200:63D0:29FF:FA5C:A571:604C (talk) 18:54, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

Lover Announcement

In the Category Promotion and release and further in the singles section it says ""Lover", the title track, was announced as the third single on August 16, 2019, by Swift at the 2019 Teen Choice Awards.[143] On August 15, 2019, Swift announced on her social media that the music video for the song would premiere during a live Q&A session on YouTube the day before the album release, on August 22, 2019" Should the dates be switched because how can the music video be announced before the song is announced? or is this actually the case.

 Done. I went through the source and the actual date of the awards event was August 11, not the 16th; somebody's typo I guess. Thank you for highlighting. BawinV (talk) 17:44, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

Edit request

From the Background section: "At midnight, she released the lead single Of TS7, "Me!" featuring Brendon Urie of Panic! at the Disco, along with its music video." should be changed to "At midnight, she released the lead single of "TS7," "Me!" featuring Brendon Urie of Panic! at the Disco, along with its music video." 2600:1700:DA60:E010:F07B:4EA2:42C0:27DC (talk) 17:52, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

 Done. BawinV (talk) 19:33, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Lover (album)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Realmaxxver (talk · contribs) 17:36, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

Adding comments soon. Realmaxxver (talk) 17:36, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

@Realmaxxver: Hello, may I ask how is this going? Ippantekina (talk) 10:21, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

Passing by and noticed that this review is still untouched. @Realmaxxver? ‍ ‍ Your Power 🐍 ‍ ‍ ^{💬 "What did I tell you?"}
_{📝 "Don't get complacent..."} 09:52, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

@Realmaxxver - this has been inactive for six weeks. ‍ ‍ Your Power 🐍 ‍ ‍ ^{💬 "What did I tell you?"}
_{📝 "Don't get complacent..."} 06:44, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

I'll try to finish this in a week. Realmaxxver (talk) 16:04, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

• "Swift began writing Lover after having recalibrated her personal life, freeing herself from her public perception.[18][19] Reflecting on her experience on the Reputation Stadium Tour, she learnt to take her occupation as an entertainer less seriously than before." → "Swift began writing Lover after having recalibrated her personal life, freeing herself from her public perception,[18][19] while reflecting on her experience on the Reputation Stadium Tour, she learnt to take her occupation as an entertainer less seriously than before"
• "As with her songwriting for previous albums, she wrote Lover as a reflection of her personal life.[19][22] She described it as very confessional and autobiographical, yet also playful and whimsical.[19][21]" → "As with her songwriting for previous albums, she wrote Lover as a reflection of her personal life,[19][22] describing it as very confessional and autobiographical, yet also playful and whimsical.[19][21]"
• "Whereas the protagonists of the Reputation songs are exaggerated characters Swift created as a reaction to the controversies, the songs on Lover are from an honest and lighthearted perspective, and was much inspired by her first time discovering "love that was very real".[22]" → "Although the protagonists of the Reputation songs are exaggerated characters Swift created as a reaction to the controversies, the songs on Lover are from an honest and lighthearted perspective, being much inspired by her first time discovering "love that was very real".[22]"
• "Its songs contain lyrics that are specific to Swift's personal life but also engage universally relatable feelings that, according to Time critic Dana Schwartz, could be applied to ordinary love stories of many people.[30]" → "Its songs contain lyrics that are specific to Swift's personal life but also engage universally relatable feelings which can be applied to ordinary love stories of many people, according to Time critic Dana Schwartz.[30]"
• "Lust is a theme explored on tracks like "I Think He Knows", which is about self-confidence after a reciprocated infatuation,[29][34] and "False God", where the protagonist ponders how false promises can help overcome the challenges of a long-distance relationship with lyrics using religious imagery to invoke oral sex.[35][36]" → "Lust is a theme explored on tracks like "I Think He Knows", which is about self-confidence after a reciprocated infatuation,[29][34] and "False God", where the protagonist ponders how false promises can help overcome the challenges of a long-distance relationship. The lyrics to the latter use religious imagery to invoke oral sex.[35][36]"
• "She takes the blame for having hurt her partner on "Afterglow",[38] and contemplates a loved one's prolonged medical treatment on "Soon You'll Get Better", inspired by her parents' cancer diagnoses.[33][34]" → "She takes the blame for having hurt her partner on "Afterglow",[38] contemplating a loved one's prolonged medical treatment on "Soon You'll Get Better", inspired by her parents' cancer diagnoses.[33][34]"

• Isn't this grammatically off? Ippantekina (talk) 01:43, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

• "It was a song Swift wrote for Lover not inspired by her personal life, which was "incredible news" to her because she realized she could continue writing songs about heartbreak even if she were in a healthy relationship.[50]" → "A song that Swift wrote for Lover not inspired by her personal life, it was "incredible news" to her, as she realized she could continue writing songs about heartbreak even if she were in a healthy relationship.[50]"
• "Whereas she associated Reputation's musical style devoid of acoustic instruments with imagery of "nighttime cityscape, [...] old warehouse buildings that had been deserted and factory spaces", she conceptualized Lover as "a barn wood floor and some ripped curtains flowing in the breeze, and fields of flowers";" → "While she associated Reputation's musical style devoid of acoustic instruments with imagery of "nighttime cityscape, [...] old warehouse buildings that had been deserted and factory spaces", Lover was conceptualized as "a barn wood floor and some ripped curtains flowing in the breeze, and fields of flowers";"
• "For her vocals, Swift recorded as though she were performing live and said much of the album was nearly whole takes.[53]" → "For her vocals, Swift recorded as though she were performing live, stating that much of the album was nearly whole takes.[53]"
• "Antonoff's production is characterized by 1980s drums, atmospheric synthesizers, and reverbed beats,[44][57] and explores eclectic styles across genres including synth-pop, punk, folk pop, and quiet storm.[58]" → "Antonoff's production is characterized by 1980s drums, atmospheric synthesizers, and reverbed beats,[44][57] exploring eclectic styles across genres including synth-pop, punk, folk pop, and quiet storm.[58]"
• "Although it has lyrics about a painful heartbreak, "Death by a Thousand Cuts" has an upbeat production with a recurring guitar line, quivering synthesizers, and faint church bells with vocal harmonies in the background.[38][55][64]" → "Despite it's lyrics about a painful heartbreak, "Death by a Thousand Cuts" has an upbeat production with a recurring guitar line, quivering synthesizers, and faint church bells with vocal harmonies in the background.[38][55][64]"
• "Featuring Brendon Urie of Panic! at the Disco, it features pop hooks, and its horns and marching band drums in the refrain evoke a 1960s big band sound.[66][67]" → "Featuring Brendon Urie of Panic! at the Disco, it contains pop hooks, and its horns and marching band drums in the refrain evoke a 1960s big band sound.[66][67]"

I'm finished now! Realmaxxver (talk) 12:45, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

@Ippantekina: Realmaxxver (talk) 17:27, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for reviewing. I have addressed all except one where I responded above. Cheers, Ippantekina (talk) 01:44, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

Overall

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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