Talk:Zabuza Momochi

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Fanon is not trivia

Can we accept this? I don't think Wikipedia is the place to speculate on how 'shippers overextend on canon for their fan fiction. Danny Lilithborne 21:10, 14 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Onikyodai as Teammates

Are the Onikyodai necessarily Teammates of Zabuza and Haku? I thought they were just ninja that served Gato or Zabuza in a failed assassination attempt. The fact that they also weren't present in the battle on the Great Naruto Bridge doesn't support them being teammates either.

They were captured by Kakashi, dumby!

-Zabuza doesn't seem like the sort to have teammates, beside Haku obviously. I just figured that they were all ninja that Gatou hired, who happened to be nuke-nin from kirigakure.

Zabuza's Eyebrow's

Is there any reason why at some times Zabuza has eyebrows and at other times he doesn't? - Sasuke-kun27

i think it's an erorr(not sure).--Geterdone 21:27, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

actually, zabuza does have eyebrows, its just that sence he is looking angry all the time so they are bent on an angle with his eyes, and there are very few shots in which it is close enough to notice

Then why does Naruto refer to him as a browless freak in Japan and he made a slightly different comment about Zabuza having no eyebrows in english?

That's because he doesn't have eyebrows, the English dub messed it up, so at times he has no eyebrows and at others he has them, it's just a technical error made when the U.S. was dubbing it. In the oringinal Japenese version he has no eyebrows the entire time (this is also seen in the manga).Sam ov the blue sand 01:52, 18 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's not true. They don't change the animation to screw scenes up. They messed up the scene in the Japanese version and it was carried over. Nothing more to it. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 01:56, 18 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

Momochi Zabuza → Zabuza Momochi – As pointed out in Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Anime_and_manga#Naruto_character_article_titles, the current names for articles about Naruto characters are inconsistent with the names used for other anime characters (Naruto characters use Japanese order for names, while most other anime characters have their name in Western order), as well not following the naming guidelines in WP:MOS-JA.

DO NOT COMMENT HERE. Please participate in the centralized discussion at Talk:Uzumaki Naturo

--Kunzite 01:53, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Question concerning etymology

Zabuza apparently means never cuts twice, but this doesn't make sense to me. Considering the verb 切る (kiru) means to cut, I'm wondering if this is just something I'm not familiar with (I'm not a native speaker nor am I fluent) or is of chinese derivation. On that note, what's the deal with the Zanbatou? Horse cutting sword? I get the to suffix, but isn't うま (uma) horse? 154.20.135.89 03:41, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

From Jim Breen's WWWJDIC, the last kanji in Zabuza reads and means '斬 ... ザンサンセンゼンき.る beheading; kill; murder'. The first two kanji together mean something along the lines of "not repeated", "not done again". Given this, the translation is somewhat figurative.

As for the Zanbatō, the article gives the kanji as 斬馬刀 - literally "kill horse sword." --Pentasyllabic 12:24, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I see, so it's a kanji thing. Since spoken Zabuza is just a name, and Zanbatō means horse killing sword do to the mandarin Kanji, shouldn't a note be made in the articles that it's not literal Japanese? 154.20.135.89 20:49, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, someone make a note of that.

By the way, did you know that Zabuza performs the Water Clone Jutsu with a half tiger seal, and Kisame Hoshigaki has to use a full tiger seal to create Water Clones? Dragonball1986

Maybe Zabuza is better than we all think he was. He just got cocky when fighting Kakashi and Team 7Sam ov the blue sand 11:35, 18 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Eyebrows

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Momochi_Zabuza.jpg I can see the eyebrows on this image. Why was mistakely given in the another image?

Those are merely angry lines or very thin eyebrows. He's not supposed to have them at all. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 00:42, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

They are just lines to show he is angry. The space between the slanted lines and the top ones are where his eyebrows would be if he had any. Desert Spada 01:16, 15 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

how come he doesnt have eyebrows? thats weird.

Sword

Is it just me, or does Zabuza's sword change size?

Zabuza's sword isn't one a real ninja would carry around. It actually looks alot like a ZWYHONDER a German sword used for chopping off legs of hourses. Also, if the sword really is a zwyhonder, then why would he carry it around in a timeframe like Naruto's? It doesn't make sense.

Do you mean Zwiehander? It is called a zanbato in Japan, and it did exist for that very reason you listed, by the way. But to answer the question, that is merely an example of the animation department slipping up in the early episodes. It does seem to change sizes often... Treima 02:10, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ya, I didn't know how to spell zwiehonder. But if a Zanbato was used for cutting off the legs of hourses, why does Zabaza use it to cut people in half and stuff like that? It is pretty friggin awsome though.

For the same reason Sagara Sanosuke from Rurouni Kenshin used it to cut people in half: it is merely a fantasy rendition of a historical weapon, like Itachi's shuriken tricks in Sasuke's flashbacks: do you seriously think someone would, or even could, do that kind of crazy trick in real life? Treima 01:47, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You know, that's the best thing about cartoons. Seeing crazy things that could never happen!

o_o wtf why would they chop off horse's legs? thats animal cruelty.

Which is really what they would have been thinking when they were being chased down by mounted warriors. :P Retlor 00:37, 4 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

PLEASE avoid posting personal opinions and questions like this. If you're curious as to why a sword would be used that way, read the Zweihander article. Horses were tools and had to be neutralized so the mounted enemies would lose their advantage. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.217.60.67 (talk) 16:38, 2 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]

It's supposed to be a Zanbato, a Japanese sword with similar intentio.

Last Words

What were Zabuza's last words? Kid Sonic

They were: "Kakashi, bury me... next to Haku."

Defy Gravity

Is it just me, or can Zabuza's sword defy gravity? It sits on his back with nothing holding it up, can fly a hundred feet at high speed despite it's weight, rise up twenty feet when only a few feet from the ground, and Zabuza can lift it with one arm using incredible accuracy even though it's bigger than he is.

It would not be so amazing and attention-grabbing if it looked light enough to sling around like that. It's merely one of those things that is meant to add to the 'fantastic' value of the series. Look at Itachi's shuriken tricks in Sasuke's flashback: no human can possibly be that accurate while falling. Treima 02:06, 8 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]