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— Preceding unsigned comment added by Aperson56852316 (talkcontribs) 04:17, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This isn't a novel

This page needs a lot of work to make it Wikipedia-material. It contains a lot of information, but feels like it's being presented by a costumed museum guide. Need citations, need sources, and we really need to help it sound more like it's been written from a neutral point of view. The one source currently listed is a dead link. I'll set it to the archive.org version, for now. I'll start trying to find sources for some of this stuff. Something makes me think some of this is original research. Heh. Also, a significant amount of contribution to the article is from non-logged in users, so I can't really post on their talk pages and get information! Jtrnp (talk) 22:05, 15 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I have a plethora of sources, primary and secondary, and have been working in my sandbox on a re-write for this article. The current version does read like a costumed museum guide or real estate pamphlet. (There is a reason for that - most of the information probably comes from marketing collateral and historic preservation pieces). The current version includes glaring errors with regard to Little Rock and Pulaski Heights history. It makes a lot of assumptions and repeats common misconceptions. It completely ignores significant events that directly and indirectly influenced local cultural attitudes you find in the area today. It has forgotten important people (not all of whom were white) who were involved in Pulaski Heights' development and LIttle Rock's history. While segregated, Pulaski Heights used to be more diverse. "Heights" and "Hillcrest" are mostly symbolic territories, not real jurisdictions or districts. Having said all that, I am finding it difficult to write my draft from a neutral point of view (as you might have guessed). Much of what is known and said about Pulaski Heights comes from legend, which was probably published first by one the area's developers (or in his biography written by his wife in 1920s/30s, which is often treated like a primary source). Pulaski Heights typical "history" is a Hero's Journey. It misattributes achievements and decisions to Pulaski Heights' developers when others actually deserve credit. For these reasons, I'm struggling to finished a draft and still keeping the history section short, but I really, really want to reserve a right to fix this article. I have 5 years of research and sources to use somewhere. I am going to need help when the draft is ready and will direct whomever to it at that time. Fccarner (talk) 11:23, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Forgot to ask a question:
In the history section for my re-write, I'd like to introduce the section by mentioning the confusion of Legend as historical fact by summarizing the usual story and linking to an article about Origin Story and Hero's Journey. Then in subsections given the chronology and facts about how the are really developed, with sources.
Will that confuse readers or break Wikipedia best practices for these kinds of articles? Fccarner (talk) 11:29, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]