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Number of victims
These victim tallies are inconsistent. The lead paragraph says Essex killed 10 and wounded 13 others. At the end of the article, he is said to have "shot" 19 people total. ChrisWinter 15:08, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
- A total of 19 people have been shot at the hotel, of whom seven died, but Essex already shot three, killed two, on January 1, bringing his total toll to 9 dead, 13 injured. Many sources though say he killed ten people, but so far I have only seen 9 confirmed, so I presume the other number is either wrong, or just includes Essex himself. Accordingly I will now change the number in the introductiory part.(Lord Gøn (talk) 14:43, 1 July 2008 (UTC))
2 more shooters?
I saw a thing on youtube http://youtube.com/watch?v=uiU0Tc0EIwU that says the same location, hotel in new orleans, and same date, january 73, yet it says there are 3 black snipers, and the name it mentions is robert essex, possibly mark essex's brother. What's the deal with this? Does anyone know if the video is true? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Heatsketch (talk • contribs) 19:15, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
The video is not true and a third sniper was not killed the following day. Mark James Robert Essex was the snipers full name and he is believed to be the only sniper. Some witnesses claim to have seen another gunman who did not fit Essex’s description running through the hotel. Police in the stairwell next to the cubicle Essex was hiding in claim to have heard two different voices on the roof and two different calibers of rifles being fired despite Essex being found with only one. Some reports claim that after Essex was shot and killed police still received gunshots from the roof and returned fire to a shadowy figure on the ledge. Ballistic test of bullets and shells recovered showed that only one weapon was used, the one Essex was carrying. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.250.200.63 (talk) 02:12, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
Well you can clearly see three people moving on the roof very clearly in the video, which shows a gun battle on the rooftop of a 1970s Howards Johnson's. (How many of those could there be?) Were these police that were deployed on two tiers of the rooftop at some point?
You can view the time stamp on the version available on youtube (which I can't link here): 38:19.
70.127.15.182 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 22:20, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
- If you search deeply enough, this sources from initial confusions. TKOA is a very fascinating documentary, with superlative archive footage. However, it recites inaccuracies here and there regarding some of the cases - often to accompany condensed imagery/footage (and the directors must have known this). Whitman killed a man in a barber chair; thirty-two teenage boys in the basement of Gacy's home etc. It is the same with this case. That insertion has no base in fact beyond speculation regarding conflicting reports in the immediate aftermath of Essex's death. Ballistics proved all those killed died by the Ruger found near Essex's body.--Kieronoldham (talk) 04:36, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
Cultural References
I added this small section. Gil Scott Heron seems to regard Essex as a hero, which is a somewhat extreme view IMHO. SmokeyTheCat •TALK• 20:43, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
No he doesn't and you completely fail to understand Gil if thats the case. Fittingly (as its GSH) he tries to look into the reasons Mark Essex did what he did, years of racism. Gil by no means promotes what Essex did, he just thinks its important to understand where a man has come from. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.140.255.244 (talk) 23:04, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
- Other than the one line that is currently in the article, I don't think there is any other need to add info to explain the views of a racist mass murderer. Certainly, if his color was reversed it wouldn't even be considered. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.50.245.173 (talk) 14:20, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
Redirect Created
Since the subject is referred to as "Jimmy Essex" in "The Ultimate Sniper - An Advanced Training Manual for Military and Police Snipers" by Maj. John Plaster, I created the redirect. I don't think it conflicts with the existing article on James Essex as "Jimmy" wasn't a common nickname in the 1700's. Because the book that I am citing is pretty popular in public service, in legitimate sport shooting circles and among certain fringe elements, I figured the redirect would come in useful.FiReSTaRT (talk) 12:44, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
New Orleans Advocate article today
http://theadvocate.com/home/4828836-125/rampage-revisited
Cultural References
The Killing of America (1982) mentions the shooting at the hotel at length. But I don't know how to edit Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.157.152.183 (talk) 11:48, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
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"Racially motivated violence against European Americans"
The category is not valid and vague, especially since not all of Essex's victims were white, and "European-American" is a loose term given that it doesn't distinguish between recent immigrants or those with certain ancestry 2601:19B:100:AB50:0:0:0:D529 (talk) 03:44, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
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