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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Red-tailed hawk (talk | contribs) at 04:03, 21 December 2022 (→"Man-hour": Reply). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Good articleAmerican Airlines Flight 191 has been listed as one of the Engineering and technology good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
July 9, 2011Good article nomineeListed
February 18, 2012Peer reviewReviewed
Current status: Good article

"Man-hour"

Encouraging @Jonchache, Ahunt, DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered, and Zaathras to discuss here and try to reach a consensus instead of continuing the edit war. ––FormalDude (talk) 23:51, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

As a note to anyone wishing to join the conversation, there's been quite a bit of back-and-forth on Jonchache's talk page, which I would invite editors to read. NekoKatsun (nyaa) 23:55, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This dispute is already under discussion at Wikipedia:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard Jonchache (talk) 23:55, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
You can note: Wikipedia:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard requires: You must notify any editor who is the subject of a discussion. - Ahunt (talk) 00:06, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The requirement was satisfied in my talk page where the dispute was initially discussed. Jonchache (talk) 00:09, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
No, it is very specific, you need to notify each individual person involved on their own talk page, as those involved may not be watching your talk page. The page even provides a specific template for that purpose. I would recommend you do that, or you will next get accused of trying to make an end-run around the existing consensus. - Ahunt (talk) 00:14, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, thank you for the heads up. Jonchache (talk) 00:22, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
WP:NPOVN is for drawing attention to existing discussions about neutral point of view issues, and there was no formal discussion occurring, hence my prompt. Plus this is a content dispute that has essentially nothing to do with neutrality. ––FormalDude (talk) 00:30, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That is your point of view. The proper noun is "man-hour" which is the widely accepted term for the given definition in the article. therefore, it is a point of view issue. Jonchache (talk) 00:35, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That's not what NPOV means. If it were, everything would be a NPOV issue. There's no side that is being taken by using "man-hour" instead of "person-hour" or vice-versa because they both mean the same thing. It is fundamentally a style issue as evidenced by our MOS:GNL guideline. ––FormalDude (talk) 00:38, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
"Man-hour" is extremely natural English, whereas "person-hour" is generally clunky. I will point out that it's policy that if a rule prevents you from improving or maintaining Wikipedia, we should ignore it. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 01:55, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That seems pretty subjective. ––FormalDude (talk) 03:48, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
WP:IAR seems subjective? — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 04:03, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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