Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/TheLastOfTheGiants
TheLastOfTheGiants
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16 December 2022
– Clerk assistance is requested in the case below.
Suspected sockpuppets
- Aristeus01 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- QuidditchCup53 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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I blocked Aristeus01 yesterday for a week, for persistent edit-warring on multiple articles. Today, QuidditchCup53 is created - with a surprising amount of knowledge about Wikipedia - and twice restored Aristeus01's edits. I have indeffed QuidditchCup53 as indistinguishable from a sockpuppet but could use a CU to see whether I need to extend Aristeus01's block (and check for sleepers). Black Kite (talk) 20:49, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
Comments by other users
- Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.
- I would like to draw attention to the fact that QuidditchCup53 and Aristeus01 have the same user pages, while TheLastOfTheGiants' socks haven't had one. Although we can see a similar motto on Giants' and Aristeus' user pages when they first created them ([1], [2]), that's not a sign for connection with Giants. Why would they return after so long? Giants' wanted to restore his own writings to articles on multiple accounts. Gyalu22 (talk • contribs) 07:26, 17 December 2022 (UTC)
- Any chance this might be a joe job rather than sock- or meat-puppetry? –Austronesier (talk) 21:52, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
- Now that we established @QuiditchCup53 is not a sockpuppet can we please have another look at the decision to block him. I believe WP:IJME is in case here and having him indeffblock is not making anyone look great. If other concerns are still considered such as joe job or meat I am fully opened to any investigation you would like to make. However I strongly affirm that it's a waste of time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aristeus01 (talk • contribs) 21:35, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
- It has been established that they're not a sockpuppet of you, not that they're not a sockpuppet (which they almost certainly are). Black Kite (talk) 23:40, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
- Is there evidence for that? Edit: sorry, I don't mean to sound argumentative, I am genuinely worried we "got the wrong guy". --Aristeus01 (talk) 11:48, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
- It has been established that they're not a sockpuppet of you, not that they're not a sockpuppet (which they almost certainly are). Black Kite (talk) 23:40, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
- Clerk endorsed - but you could just block the master anyway. It's pretty ducky. MarioGom (talk) 21:35, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
- It is, but as it is a nationalist dispute Q53 could be someone who read about the issue online; it's happened before. Black Kite (talk) 21:40, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
- Checking...-- Ponyobons mots 21:43, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
- Based on CU log data I think QuidditchCup53 is more likely related to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/TheLastOfTheGiants. Behavioural evidence needs evaluation-- Ponyobons mots 21:46, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) To be clear, Aristeus01 is Unlikely to be related, unless there's WP:MEAT afoot.-- Ponyobons mots 21:53, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
- Nationalist POV is the same from both accounts (and the same as LandOfTheGiants). Q53 is indeffed anyway. May be worth moving this to LandOfTheGiants SPI archive. Black Kite (talk) 21:52, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
- Clerk assistance requested: Can this be moved to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/TheLastOfTheGiants and QuidditchCup53 tagged as suspected? They certainly love their wall of text appeals.-- Ponyobons mots 22:14, 16 December 2022 (UTC)