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Reviewer: Mujinga (talk · contribs) 02:13, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]


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What a spectacular hat - I shall take this on for review. Mujinga (talk) 02:13, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV ()
3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant ()
Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Copyvio check

Earwig doesn't turn up much although "with a widened interest in world politics and a cosmopolitan circle of friends." could be phrased differently

Images

  • Pix are all relevant and appropriately licensed - actually though for File:Recollections of full years (1914) (14786297583).jpg per this chart I would recommend adding PD-US-expired since it is taken from a book published in the US before 1928
  • It's not a pass/fail issue, but for accessibility reasons I'd recommend adding alt descriptions per WP:MOSALT

References

  • Looking good overall
  • Anderson, Greta (November 1, 2015). and Waldrup, Carole Chandler (April 6, 2016) just need the year, not day and month
  • Taft, Helen Herron (1914). Recollections of Full Years. ISBN 9780722243220. - this could be put into a Selected works section

Prose

  • I always do the lead last - it is a decent summary of the article, nice one
  • per MOS:SURNAME, "Nellie's many siblings" should be "Herron's many siblings" and same in other cases eg Taft/William (and in the lead)
  • "She wished to write or perform music, but neither developed" - repetition of "but" from the previous sentence, could just use "and"
  • " Among the people she invited were William and his brother Horace." should be " Among the people she invited were Taft and his brother Horace."
  • "William attempted to court Nellie" could just be "Taft courted Nellie"
  • " Lifelong self-doubt caused Nellie to avoid commitment to William" - is lifelong necessary to add here?
  • "a position which she had gotten for him " - is gotten ok to use on wikipedia? just flagging it up since as a Br-Eng speaker it seems informal, but it doesn't appear at Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Words to watch
  • "William's career came to a crossroads in 1906 when President Roosevelt considered nominating him for a position on the Supreme Court, while at the same time momentum grew for a Taft presidency. Nellie was vehemently opposed to William taking a position on the Supreme Court" - repetition of "position on the Supreme Court"
  • "she removed the trophy heads that Theodore Roosevelt had mounted on the walls" - don't need to link Roosevelt again, I suppose Theodore is necessary to differentiate him from his wife
  • "Though Nellie did not identify as a feminist, she supported women's rights and used her position to advance the cause" - could link feminist and women's rights

Spotchecks

  • 3 "while her mother was the daughter and the sister of U.S. congressmen" - fine
  • 7 "As a teenager, Nellie would rebel against the societal expectations for upper class women; by the age of 15 she had secretly begun smoking cigarettes, drinking whiskey, and gambling." - fine
  • 1 "As a young adult, she worked for her father in his law office. She balanced this with her social expectations following her debut, which she enjoyed despite considering it to be frivolous." - i think this could summarise the relevant sections better. they say: "She dreaded her debut but found the season that followed it more enjoyable than she had anticipated" and "the pleasures of the social world which she professed to regard as 'frivolities'"
  • 2 "William's career came to a crossroads in 1906 when President Roosevelt considered nominating him for a position on the Supreme Court, while at the same time momentum grew for a Taft presidency. Nellie was vehemently opposed to William taking a position on the Supreme Court, fearing it would end any further political aspirations. She personally met with Roosevelt and discouraged him from nominating William in a half hour discussion" - fine
  • 1 "Nellie took an interest in everything relating to her husband's presidency, and she maintained her own opinions on important matters. Though she did not believe that women should be "meddling" in politics, she spoke publicly on her beliefs, even when they contradicted the positions of her husband. She managed his appearance and scheduling to ensure he maintained proper presentation, and she would provide him with political information such as names and statistics as he needed them" - fine
  • 18 "  In June 1912, she attended both the Republican National Convention that re-nominated her husband and the Democratic National Convention that nominated his opponent Woodrow Wilson. She took a front-row seat at the latter in order to deter speakers' criticism of her husband." - fine
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