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Dear Filingpro, if your edits are supposed to be a requests for comment, then you should follow these guidelines. Markus Schulze 11:28, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
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Page move
There is a requested move discussion open at Talk:Voting system#Requested move 11 February 2017, which may be of interest to you. Homunq (࿓) 15:14, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
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Watch voting method?
You made a comment there a while back, but haven't participated in various discussions since then relating to your comment. Cheers, Homunq (࿓) 19:14, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
- You wrote something and then deleted it. Your participation would still be welcome. Homunq (࿓) 17:27, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
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Answer
I answered on Rob page.
Hi Filingpro, I'm taking a break so I am not answering anyones answer to my posts, I'm just clarifying some stuff I previously wrote before leaving for few weeks.
Reason I brought game theory was because it is a direct consequences of what you were pointing. So I thought that the only way to show that the claim that there was noreal effect wasn't appropriate was to show the uses of what you have reported. Since he was merely using the initial formula providing some other mathematical models which would directly include neutral was important. In the beginning you were giving one case, but you ended up with your example of the 5 voters and by the same token you settled it. In short, you were right, I was wrong... the initial wording as it was was misleading and take only in account cases per cases,... directly by the formula... it is only from models which take into consideration the different scenarios we should be wording this, because it's a poll, election, etc... so we can not merely relying on the initial formula. I should have looked at it more closely before claiming that the wording could have been considered as accurate. My apologies. Yaḥyā (talk) 18:22, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
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| Davinci was known to use simplified techniques and it is only because of this he excelled in many disciplines (efficiency). The language you have used and graphical representations to back up your position was simple and understandable by everyone. Yaḥyā (talk) 18:33, 12 December 2017 (UTC) |
Thanks!
- Apology accepted (also not needed because a inquisitive debate I think ok and it seems you kept an open mind). I think this question is like the Monty Hall problem because many people (including PhDs) get the answer wrong at first and are sure they are correct!
- Yes I think game theory a good point to show the real effect.
- I'm glad the 5 voters (3 candidates) case was more clear. That is helpful feedback.
- Yes I think well said re formula vs election. Helpful summary-->? The formula receives as input the final tally of support and oppose for just one candidate, and outputs a single score. The election receives as input ballots from N voters each with 3C possible combinations of markings, and outputs an ordered list of winners. When we speak of the outcome of the election to the individual voter we must adhere to the correct mathematical model to make true statements.
Enjoy your leave. Filingpro (talk) 23:03, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
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Nomination for deletion of Template:Comparison of preferential voting systems
Template:Comparison of preferential voting systems has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Nigej (talk) 10:59, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
This edit inserts a false claim.
https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=2009_Burlington_mayoral_election&diff=prev&oldid=944147610 "In IRV, there is no tactical incentive for a voter withhold or falsify their second choice." 69.5.112.154 (talk) 19:38, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
The statement is true for the Burlington election and any three candidate election, but I revised it to be true for any election. Thank you. Filingpro (talk)
No, the statement is clearly a false statement for any RCV election which does not elect the Condorcet winner. So it is not true for Burlington 2009, nor is it true for the Alaska election in August 2022, nor is it true for Minneapolis Ward 2 in 2021 (but the last case was a cycle, so no method would have removed tactical incentive to vote insincerely). Do you research this or just make it up? 69.5.112.154 (talk) 02:58, 31 January 2023 (UTC)