Talk:Military dictatorship

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Military dictatorship article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Archives: 1: 12 months

This article has not yet been rated on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
It is of interest to the following WikiProjects:

Military history: Historiography

This article is within the scope of the Military history WikiProject. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks. To use this banner, please see the full instructions.Military historyWikipedia:WikiProject Military historyTemplate:WikiProject Military historymilitary history

This article has been checked against the following criteria for B-class status:
Referencing and citation: criterion met Coverage and accuracy: criterion met Structure: criterion met Grammar and style: criterion met Supporting materials: criterion met

Associated task forces:
/
	Military historiography task force

Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details.

Politics Mid‑importance

	Politics portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Politics, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of politics on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.PoliticsWikipedia:WikiProject PoliticsTemplate:WikiProject Politicspolitics
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

Template:WP1.0

5/1 Revision

Mostly I cleaned up grammar and miscellaneous wording stuff. However, I did delete the sentence:
Few Communist regimes are military dictatorships, and controlling the military so that it cannot challenge the party has been a persistent concern of these regimes.
Not because it was innacurate or controversial, but because it is basically repeated later in the article and it destroys the flow of the article where it was.
--Xinoph 23:03, May 1, 2004 (UTC)

Latin America and Cold War

The end of the Cold War didn't had much to do with the end of military dictatorships in Latin America. By the time Gorbachev started his government, there weren't that many dictators in Latin America and the fact the remaining few became democracies had a lot more to do with internal problems than external. For example, in Brazil the slow democratization process started way back in the 70s.

Possible false info?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_dictatorship#Current_cases

Did something happen recently to Canada, or is this info false?

Original research

This article seems to consist almost entirely of original research. Three prose sections only contain one inline citation between them, solely in the "Comparison with civilian dictatorship" subsection, leaving nothing in the "Creation and evolution", "Justification" and "Comparison with monarchies" sections. As for the list part of the article, there are only two citations, referencing the Shogunate and Shōwa Statist periods in Japan. Every single other entry is lacking in citations. This is pretty bad for such an important article to the understanding of systems of government. I'm asking people that contribute to this article to please cite your sources. I can try and help find some, where possible, but I have no idea where to even start with the prose sections. --Grnrchst (talk) 09:27, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Is Atatürk a Dictator

Every dictatorship is not bad. Every dictator is not Stalin or Hitler. As someone who loved Atatürk very much, I think he was a dictator and that doesn't have to make him a bad leader. The one-party rule between 1923 and 1946 was not democratic. (I don't think it should have either.) Considering that almost all cadres are soldiers, that makes it a military dictatorship. Mefekimya (talk) 15:14, 13 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Grenada

The People's Revolutionary Government of Grenada was a classical marxist-leninist one-party dictatorship, not a military dictatorship; unless we count only the 6-days regime of the general Hudson Austin (19 - 25 october 1983).--MiguelMadeira (talk) 21:43, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Issues

Why is Egypt's military dictatorship being shown as having ended in 2018, despite there not being any leadership changes that year? Rousillon (talk) 02:55, 5 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Another issue is that Zimbabwe is also shown as having been a military dictatorship from 2017-18. While it's true they had a coup, there was no junta or anything like that, no 'takeover', rather they put one of Mugabe's party rivals in power. Rousillon (talk) 03:01, 5 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion

The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion:

Flag of Afghanistan (1978–1980).svg

Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. —Community Tech bot (talk) 03:01, 7 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Haiti

1950-1956 and 1986-1990 were they really military dictatorships? Does anyone have a source? 181.224.194.45 (talk) 04:22, 24 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion

The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion:

General Ziaur Rahman.jpg

Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. —Community Tech bot (talk) 14:52, 23 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The former list

What's the point of not having the list? I want readers to know what are the modern and former military dictatorships but I don't know about you. Patriciogetsongettingridofhiswiki (talk) 04:34, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia has rules about original research. We don't get to decide on our own what all of the current military dictatorships are. Similar lists of dictatorships are typically deleted. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 05:01, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oh ok Patriciogetsongettingridofhiswiki (talk) 23:34, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Most of the list was supported by sources, the list should be restored, though perhaps without a list of current dictatorships. -- 2804:248:FB21:1700:8956:EFAC:33C6:12A4 (talk) 02:25, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The section was entirely unsourced. Even if there were inline sources for each item on the list, "military dictatorship" is both contentious and subjective, so it would require very strong sourcing to a much higher standard. There's a general consensus that lists of dictatorships are not viable and they are routinely deleted. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 02:40, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]