Talk:Brisingr

Discussion

Hey everyone! I just wanted to have a discussion on the upcoming book. So, Christopher Paolini has stated that a dead character is going to "rise" up. Who could this be? Is it a good guy or a bad guy? How about Brom, Garrow, a person from Carvahall, or some other person? What do other people think? *Why does everyone think Orik might be a rider? Read my edit (hopefully not over-edited). If it was erased, it was said during Eragon's training that humans, dragons, and elves share a bond through magic, and that dwarves weren't included.

• • I think the reason why everyone thinks that Orik will be a rider is because he is the only character who is not already a rider that talks to Saphira like an individual. Although, I agree that Orik will not be the next rider. I think that Orik will become king of the dwarves. If this happens, and Arya becomes queen of the elves, then Eragon will be the person who connects the races. There will be harmony in the land, and then Eragon can leave. This is my theory, but I'm not basing that on anything. What do you or others think?
  • Orik cannot be the next rider, nor will any dwarf......as it is stated that dwarves do not share the connection with dragons that elves and humans share. Now with him being king and all....in ELDEST when hrothgar is killed and is being mourned orik says-"now the leaders of the clans will gather together and choose a new king from among THEM" now if he is refering to the dwarf clan leaders......then orik cant be the next king because he isn't a clan leader. Although after that he also says that hrothgar made him his heir. If this is a monoarchy like a humans well....then he will be king.
    • First of all, if you look at the Wikipedia is not page, you will clearly see that Wikipedia is not a "crystal ball," i.e., it's not a place for unverifiable speculation. This means that the majority of the article should be removed. Secondly, speaking of removing content, you might not be very familiar with what happens when an edit is made. Wikipedia's servers store a copy of the article every time an edit is made. In response to your concern about being "overedited", you could have included a link to the differences page (like this) to show everyone the changes you made. Finally, an formal decision has been made on many pages (for example, Talk:Episodes of Lost (Season 2)) that Wikipedia is not a fansite. This is not a Wikipedia policy for all articles, but it definitely deserves to be. Neither the article on Empire nor it's talk page should be used as a "fan site" for discussion about the book. All of that should be conducted on fan sites. For a list of fan sites, please see the article on Eragon. Thanks. — MATHWIZ2020 ^{TALK | CONTRIBS} 23:11, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
      • However, almost all of the people who come to this article look for speculation and rumours for what could happen. Anyways, this article is 'crystal ball' speculation, whatever it contains, because this article contains info prior to its release. Moreover, you may have seen the article Prior speculation on Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince. How come that is still kept, event though it's blatant speculation, none of which was confirmable prior to it's release. Also, there is a section of speculation in Harry Potter: Book Seven which is tagged with {{OriginalResearch}}. Maybe we could do the same here. So, even though I won't restore the speculation till I hear your response, I feel the speculation is an important, and frankly, the only notable part of the article even though it goes against WP:NOT. But for archival purposes, I am adding this link to let all people who wish to see the speculation:

Click here to see the speculation prior to the release of the book--May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| r 3 $ |-| t |-|) 08:40, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

• • • • • After seeing Harry Potter: Book Seven, I adopted a similar style for this article. Thanks for the link! --M@thwiz2020 16:33, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

I'm very sorry this is not warranted usage of this space, but I just wanted to tell you peeps that I am creating a fourm at http://s10.invisionfree.com/InheritanceTrilogy/ so that any and all SPECULATION can be fourmized....................:P but it is not complete, i will inform you when it is......DR7

• I want to know something. Why is a whole bunch of information deleted from this site? Even the confirmed details were deleted! Is there a reason why all the questions are unfit to be on this site? Why are some examples of speculation not allowed, but others are? What is going on? I don't want to change anything back because I am not sure about the "rules" that were violated, and some new information was added that I don't want to delete. Please explain what and why this all happened. I am completely confused and outraged at the same time, for over half of the article is suddenly gone. --Evil Canadian

• I want to know why a lot of people think that Selena was "loose". How many guys did this woman have kids with? Morzan, Brom, and Ajahad are just a few names that this woman has supposed to have had children for. I will be supremely supprised if this is how Paolini depicts the mother of the protagonist of this epic. --Evil Canadian 23:23, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

• THis article should not be named empire yet. It should be reverted to "book 3(untitled)" for it is likley to be named that, not that it is As always, speculation should be on the discusion page, and not on the article page. Please revert back to that title. The pointer outer 20:18, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

• To The Pointer Outer,

First, the door is to the left, and secondly, if the main article does not have speculation on it, then their would be nothing on it because the book is not out yet. And thirdly, I like the name Empire and it should be titled Empire instead of lousy book three. The page discussion should be for this kind of stuff, stuff that does not make sense, stuff that needs explaining, pr stuff that should be argued about. -Chris P.

• About the theories of Brom's sword being under the Menoa tree: sorry to break it to you, but Brom's sword has been distroyed. Rhunon told Eragon that the Forsworn had distroyed all the Riders' swords. Even though she was surprised to see Zar'roc, it does not give hope that maybe she was mistaken on Broms sword also. Brom had gone to Rhunon and asked her to replace his lost sword. Since his sword has been lost, and "lost" is another word for "nevermore," it is logical that Broms sword had been distroyed. It is gone and it is not underneath the Menoa Tree.

• Sorry to break it to you too, but it was stated in Eldest that all but TWO swords were destroyed and were held by the two oldest elven families in Du Weldenvarden. That was why Rhunon was surprised to see Zar'roc. So when Brom said his sword was lost, he could have meant it literally- somewhere unknown. And i don't think it was literally under the tree either. The two oldest elven families, Brom's old sword, and plus, the Menoa tree was originally a girl, and she was around before the elves became immortal so she is very old, too. K.G.

I know what evil Canadian means!I had a friend over the day before it was moved and we were going to study it the next day.68.196.121.7 11:06, 9 April 2006 (UTC)Lalalalad

I think the dead rise up means that guy, whats-his-face, Murtagh's teacher (Tornac)

I was looking through Eragon yesterday, and i found out that selena died. Murtagh was telling Eragon that when news reached him that Morzan was killed, Selena came back after being gone for many months. She was very sick and within a fortnight, she died. And then in Eldest, we find out that Selena was also Murtagh's mother. This also means whoever Eragon's father actually is, is dead. Personally, i think it's Brom and he died as we all know. i also did some calculations with my friend, and we realized murtagh's age is only about 18 because he said to eragon that he escaped at his last birthday when he turned 18. That means morzan was killed 15 years ago because Murtagh got his scar from Morzan when he was 3. So when you think about it, Brom came to Carvahall 15 years ago, Eragon was born 15 years ago, and after morzan died, Selena returned to Murtagh and she died. many events happened at that time and that is one reason i think borm is eragon's father. K.G.

Speculation

The rumors on the article page make things messy.

• Important things that people have over looked.

Selena, Eragon and Murtagh's mother, talked to Solumbum. She was also one of the three people that Angela told their fortune too. This could be significant, because as of now we still don't know that much about Selena. People also overlook what Eragon represents in contrast to Murtagh and Galbatorix. Eragon represents all of the fallen Dragon Riders. He has, without intention, borrowed from many of the improtant riders of the past. He has the original rider's name, Eragon. He also has a dragon named after Brom's old dragon and for the majority of books one and two he used Mrozan's sword. He uses Oromis's and Gleadr's training and as a result he represents the Riders as a whole. He also represents a connection between all of the races. He is a human (and part elf thanks to the Dragons), trained by the elves and bound by their magic, and part of the Dwarven clan of Orik. These facts are going to be very important in the upcoming conclusion to the story!

Incidentally, I was given to believe that the gift under the menoa tree was the elven powers granted to Eragon by the dragon dancers. Anand 23:32, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Moved from article:

• Roran will be the third dragon rider because Eragon is in the middle,Murtagh is the Eldest and

as Roran and Eragon are distant relatives they all might possess royal blood.

• • correction-eragons the youngest and roran would be in the middle
• Eragon and Roran will kill the Ra'zac.(Arya might help out)
• The next Rider may be Arya, and her dragon (likely green) may become Saphira's mate. This may create the additional impetus necessary for Eragon and Arya to become romantically involved as well.
• Eragon's lost sword may be replaced by Brom's old Rider sword

IT CAN'T BE BROM'S SWORD BECAUSE HIS SWORD WAS DEYSTROYED!!!!!! (Telioty)

OK, In the books, it NEVER said Brom's sword was destroyed. Brom said it was LOST! Meaning a lot more than just possibly DESTRYOED!!! Many things can be interpreted from this saying of "LOST" wiht no explanation.

i think brom "lost" it because he had a vision or something and he saw that someone in the future would need the weapon so he put it somewhere for safe keeping until it was needed.

• We may find out about the one who cannot lie, and he may tell Eragon his true name
• The weapon under the Menoa Tree might be the first Eragon's sword
• Eragon may learn the forbidden secrets of how Galbatorix grows stronger
• Oromis (a.k.a. Togira Ikonoka) may die.
• We may see Vroengard, which is possibly the location of the Vault Of Souls
• The Quote that follows tells how Eragon and Murtagh are indeed brothers, however, one might be one means that one is more like the father, the other line states that one might be two which is the mother

While two may share two,
And one of two is certainly one,
One might be two.

• Roran may be the logical successor to Galbatorix, as he and Eragon may possess the "royal blood" that still flows in Palancar Valley. It is noted in the books how Eragon and Roran are different from the other people in Carvahall.
• In Eragon's first premonition in Eragon: Deathwatch, the two people walking arm in arm are Eragon and Arya, and the man on the beach is either Galbatorix, Roran, Murtagh, or Oromis.
• The Vault Of Souls was, according to Solembum, to be used by Eragon when he was in need of great power. We have yet to see how this is achieved.
• The two dragons circling in the chapter "Deathwatch" could be Saphira and the third Green dragon who could become Arya's.
• The dream Eragon has in "Deathwatch" could be of him and Arya leaving the land Alagesia forever.
• Elva will play a much larger role in Book 3.
• Nasuada may be Eragon's half-sister because Ajahad is her father, but no one knows who her mother is and Selena might have been pregnant with Nasuada before she had Eragon making Murtagh the Eldest, Nasuada the middle, and Eragon the youngest.
• Brom is the most logical person who will rise again considering that the Inheritance Trilogy is very similar to The Lord of the Rings. Brom could be compared with the wizard Gandalf, who comes back in the second book of The Lord of the Rings trilogy as as an empowered leader. Brom probably will come back to life (maybe by the vault of souls) to help out Eragon, as Gandalf came back to live to help out his comrades.
• Linnea(the menoa tree) could be the one to rise again, she was around when the elves were still young and she might have met the grey folk and learned the name of the ancient language, thus being able to help destroy galbatorix.
• Both Eragon and Murtagh are the sons of Morzan, who was a powerful, albeit evil, Dragon Rider. Dragons chose to hatch for both the sons, and now they have become Riders. It therefore makes sense if the third Rider for whom the last (and presumably green) dragon will hatch will be the descendant of a Rider. The only old Dragon Riders we know are the king, Morzan, Brom and Oromis, and apart from Morzan it is not known if any of the others had children. The last Rider may be an entirely new character if it follows the pattern of Morzan's sons, or it may be an existing character with no blood ties to the old order of Riders.
• Roran will become King of Men. This might be true especially if he is a descendant of King Palancar.
• Orik will become King of the Dwarves, as he was adopted by the late dwarf king Hrothgar.
• Arya will become Queen of the Elves, as the only heir of Queen Islanzadi.
• Nar Garzhvog will become the King of the Urgals.
• We shall also see a lot more of Arya's earlier life and will understand why she secludes herself ,and behaves in such a haughty manner.
• Brom could be the one to come back because Saphira used dragon magic to transform his tomb. That magic, or maybe magic that happens later at the tomb, could resurrect him, as dragon magic is unpredictable.
• There are rumoured to still be dragons in Alagaësia. They could be hiding in the spine.
• in death watch two persons are eragon and arya going back to the ship 'dragon wings' towards VROENGARD and the person watching is roran.
• Faolin may have been Arya's love. This may be why she is so secluded. She refuses to answer Eragon when pushed on this matter.
• Eragon may become the Dwarf Clan Leader, as he is King Hrothgar's adopted son. This may cause tension between Eragon and Orik
• Orik may also claim the dwarven throne, as he was adopted before Eragon
• Eragon removes the missaid blessing
• The elves attack the empire

"*The weapon under the Menoa Tree might be the first Eragon's sword"

This may be true since we dont have an exact time line and it is highly possible that since the first Eragon bonded with a Wild Dragon he may have powers beyond that of those who's dragons hatched from those made after the Elves and Dragons ended their war (Urbanninja3)

The Quote "While two may share two, And one of two is certainly one, One might be two." could be seen as "While two may share two <Farthers> ,And one<Child> of two<fathers>is certainly one<Mother>,One<Mother> might be two<sons>". this sujests that even though Eragon and Murtagh share the same mother Eragon may have a different Father who could be Brom.

Elva who in the second book had aged very fast since Eragon's curse may have matured into an adult by book 3 when Eragon breaks the curse. however we do not know what Saphira's blessing may cause this could mean she is intended for the third and final egg having been marked by a dragon this could me that Elva (a matured adult) is the one who becomes involved with Eragon as the two Dragons mate. She may also be the key to the vault of souls because it is said she may play a greater role in the 3rd book (Urbanninja3)

Roran as Rider

I think this theory makes a lot of sense, as Roran is an even better leader than Eragon - on par with Nasuada, I should say. He's matured a lot, he is intelligent, loyal and brave, and he vows to avenge his father's death. Also, the idea of a family of Riders sounds like something an author would like, especially if Eragon and Arya marry, and their child becomes a Rider. Eragon's child would have such a history: father, grandfather, uncle and father's cousin all Riders, the mother a princess and the grandmother a queen. There is also a suggestion that Roran and Eragon are descendants of King Palancar through Selena and Garrow and Eragon's biological father was royalty among the Riders, which is heady stuff. Paolini definitely puts a lot emphasis on lineage in his books, and I think that this is a concept that would appeal to him when taken in the context of the books. I would really prefer Elva to become a Rider, but I somehow feel that Roran has better chances - better than even Arya, maybe. - Jessix, March 26th 2006 I just want to add something to your theory,Jessix.Evandar was killed at Illirea so could he have been a rider?```` Lalalalad [Evandar went out with the Elven army as their leader, their king]

However, if Roran is to have the bloodline of King Palancer, then he might be king of men. As said in the book, no one man should rule forever and if Roran is a dragon rider, then he would rule forever. Surely that was said for a reason, other than to help the conglict against Galbatorix.

Yes, having Roran as a rider does have a nice ring to it, but one must consider the book itself. In order for Roran to become the rider and a good plot to emerge, the last egg has to be obtained, it has to hatch for Roran, and Roran has to be trained!!! The time in the book would be a huge amount of time. Unless Eragon goes away for a year or so while Roran is being trained, the third book will be too much like the first one. There cannot be another "introduction to the Riders" section because Paolini is a better author than that. Also, there cannot be a sentence like "Many months went by while Eragon and Saphira trained Roran and his dragon." Paolini is too good an author to allow this to happen, and he cannot write a Roran version of Eragon (the book), for it would be boring, useless, and long. So, even though having Roran as a rider would bring closure to this special family, it does not make sense with Paolini's writing style and his choices for content. --Evil Canadian 03:13, 17 April 2006 (UTC) but what if he didn't have to train?(just asking)Lalalalad

Having Roran be the third rider does make a lot of sense, many could come to that conclusion. However, the one thing people over look is how Roran is related to Eragon, through Eragon's mother not Morzan. Therefore, Roran would not have the same bloodline that both Eragon and Murtagh have, which in turn may have been a factor in the dragons choosing them.

I don't think Roran should be the next Rider. He'd have to be trained. That would make the book way too long! Also I thnk that Nasuada will become the next rider. Paolini said that the next rider will be a bit of a surprise and Nasuada is possibly Eragon and Mutagh's sister. Also, I believe that the person standing on the beach(Eragon:Deathwatch)is Eragon whilst Roran and Arya walk hand in hand. This thereby(assuming Roran becomes King and Arya becomes Queen of their respective races)would unite the races of Alagaesia. Meanwhile neither is a Rider and Nasuada's dragon is female thereby making Thorne Saphira's mate and turning Murtagh good(he'll either turn good after Galbatorix is dead or during the "final battle"... please gimme some feedback on this extra bit. WRITTEN BY: A HUGE INHERITANCE TRILOGY FAN. <One little thing: the last egg is a male. Just to let you know:)>

I acctually do think that is extreamely possible, you summed it up so fast though, but it all made sense, I do think that your theory is something to think about, but why would Arya and Roran marrie, at least Eragon and her have somwhaat of a history. And besides, It would make more sense if Arya married another Elf. Also, not that I don't think it will happen, just that i think that Murtaugh and Eragon might not reunite, because Paolini also said that Galbatorix sealed his bond tight with Murtaugh, so another possibility is that the shred of love Murtaugh still has for Eragon might make him save Eragon in the last battle, therefor dying himself. Remember these are just theorys, so "A HUGE INHERITANCE FAN", punch in some more if I didn't get what you were trying to say. -vince.sg

Actually,roran just might be the rider.After all,he is going to Galbatorix's castle.What could happen is just that he and eragonould sneak in,but are broken up.Roran could stumble into where galbatorix is hidong the unhatched dragon egg.He would touch it and voila!But there also is the possibility that he encounters galbatorix and the king would convince him to stay with him for katrina.

i dont think that roran will be the next rider actually. he seems kind of blind to some things and out of it. Besides you would need someone who already knew something about dragons and magic because they cant waste a lot of time training someone totally oblivious to this concept and who only learned that they existed a few weeks earlier.

Unanswered Questions

• How does Galbatorix's and Murtagh's strength continue to increase each year
  • Maybe they store their energy in precious stones or steal it from their surroundings.
    • That wouldn't increase their physical body strength. Ω 19:54, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
      • they know a lot more about the ancient language than a lot of people so they might know a way to do that
      • They maybe found out where the vault of souls is and used it?
• What is the exact nature of Dras-Leona's religion
  • It's possible that the people of Dras-Leona worship the Ra'zac, as the give up parts of their body to Helgrind, where the Ra'zac live, and the Ra'zac have been revealed as eating humans.
    • Ah, but do they know it's the Ra'Zac, and not just some mountain spirit thing.
• What the weapon is underneath the Menoa Tree and where and what the Rock of Kuthian and the Vault of Souls is
• the rock of kuthian could be helgrind and the vault of souls could be on vroengard
• i think the vault of souls might be at helgrind, why else would there be two deadly creatures that guard it so carefully.
• the weapon under the menoa tree isnt really under the tree its with one of the two families
  • • you see roots doesnt just have to mean the roots of a tree it could also mean where you came from, like your origin which would be your family. so if you traced linneas roots back to her mother and father and then back to there parents you would get two families. with that being said since there are two families there might be two weapons but its a matter of eragon finding the right one. one of the weapons could very well be broms sword since it never said it was destroyed, just "lost." the second weapon could be the firsts eragons sword or something else.
• What is the fate of the last Dragon egg
  • It hatches, that's all that we know so far.
• Why did Galbatorix lose half of his army in the Spine
• Who will claim the Dwarven throne
  • Orik maybe? After all, he was Hrothgar's adopted son...
• Why will Eragon leave Alagaesia and maybe never return, though Alagaësia seems to refer to the continent in which the story takes place.
• What are the seven words are that Brom revealed to Eragon as he was dying
• Who are the Grey Folk

  The grey folk were the people before the elves and the ones who sealed the magic into words.  (Telioty)

• What is Eragon's true name (which is needed to open the Vault of Souls)
• What happened to the first Eragon - if he is still alive, and, if not, how he died
• In Eragon's first premonition (in Eragon chapter "Deathwatch"), who are the two people walking arm in arm, where are they going, and who is the man left on the beach?
• Why does Eragon need to open the Vault of Souls? * Also concerning the Chapter 'Deathwatch' we have yet to learn who the two airborne dragons were.* What happened to Saphira's parents (How when both are dead, especially since her father was a dragon of a Rider who was killed by the Forsworn)
• what color is the last dragon egg?
  • Green.
• After Galbatorix stole a dragon hatchling and indoctrinated Morzan, "[they] hid themselves in an evil place where the Riders dared not venture" (Eragon:Dragon Tales - Brom's story). Where is this evil place, why is it never mentioned and not on the map, and why wouldn't the riders dare to go there?
• What did Angela tell Selena? What was Selena's fortune?
• Does the character returning have to be a person? Could it be a dragon? Maybe the green dragon? Maybe the first Saphira or Galbatorix's original dragon.
  • Both of those dragons were killed.
• In Eragon:Flight of Destiny, Saphira rants, "Oaths betrayed, souls killed, eggs shattered! Blood everywhere. Murderers!" This is the only other time, besides in Solembum's advice about the Vault of Souls, where souls are mentioned. Is this a coincidence, or is the fact that souls can be killed significant?
  • Maybe Saphira is referring to the Du Fyrn Skulblaka, where the Elves killed all her kin.
• What exactly happened to Selena.
  • Murtagh said that she had returned but died soon after but im not so sure i believe it,one i dont want to and two murtagh is kind of shady and we dont know a whole lot about him either.
• What did Trianna do to Eragon when he couldn't look away from her snake bracelet's eyes? What was she trying to accomplish?
• What will happen between Eragon and Az Sweldn Rak Anhuin, for they have a feud with each other?
• In Eldest:Reunion, Eragon is having trouble coming to grips with Morzan being his father. He asks Saphira if Brom thought that Eragon might "emulate Morzan." Saphira says, "Of course not," but refuses to state why she thinks so and she refuses to meet Eragon's eyes. What does Saphira know about Brom's intentions for going to Carvahall, and why won't she tell Eragon about it?
  • no one knows what brom toldher but she probably doens't wat to tell him because she's afraid it will distract him from the task at hand.
• Will Murtagh choose where his loyalties lie or stay a servant of evil until he dies?
  • Murtagh can't "choose" to defect to the Varden, because Galbatorix knows his true name, and therefore controls him.
  • It is possible that Murtagh me break his oath throwing his own life away in defending Eragon giving him a chance to slay Galbatorix (Urbanninja3)
• Who was the old, blind beggar whom Angela offered a fortune telling (but he refused)?
• How did Brom meet Selena, what was his relationship with her, and how significant is it when Brom said "Enough to miss her when she was gone." (228 Eragon:A Costly Mistake)?
• Was the Rock of Kuthian where they hid?
• What happened to the first Eragon??

A note inferred from Eragon: Roran has a polished rock. Could it be a fourth dragon egg? Paolini would not mention it without purpose. I think this was more Roran forgeting Eragon and Eragon feeling hurt, because of similar objects, this is pretty ironic, but I don't think it was done on purpose, and It seems a very unlikely thing to happen, especially since it was left there and Carvahall is now destroyed.

roran i do believe, wont be the be the next rider, in book 2 he feel;s bad about killing to soldiers who would have killed him given the chance.

• • WHEN is the third book coming out? Thats a question I'd like answered!

rb-

In 2007 (Telioty)

What month in 2007??

no one knows

i think arya should be rider of the green male dragon. she is an elf, and then that would resolve the problem of the redundancy of only males being riders in this time period. i also hope eragon and arya get togther --70.181.130.23 03:57, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Under the Menoa Tree

This is complete speculation, but I have to write it down and have it criticized. The Grey Folk were the race who created the Ancient Language. Therefore, they must know the name of it. If Eragon was to meet a Grey Folk, he could learn this word and have control over all who use the language. This is all the magic users in Alagaesia, including King Galbatorix. Now, about the Menoa tree. The Menoa Tree is really the elf Linnea. She lived in a time before he elves were immortal. Oromis had said to Eragon that the Grey Folk were around when the elves were a young race. Since the elves have been immortal for a great span of years, wouldn't that make Linnea part of this young race? Is it possible that the Menoa Treen is old enough to have met a Grey Folk and have learned the name of the Ancient Language? Could that possibly be the weapon found under the Menoa tree? --Evil Canadian 03:39, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Maybe linnea will be the soul that is brought back to life since she wasnt actually killed she just turned herself into a tree. Its just like shes trapped in a cage and if they can find a way to unlock it they bring her back to life. She would be the weapon under the menoa tree and if she had met the grey folk and new the name of the ancient language she could help destroy galbatorix.

Roran's Polished Rock

• Will whoever mentioned just above that "Roran has a polished rock" please give book and page references (it's mentioned above that the book is Eragon, but not the page). Thank you. - JackInTheBox

Eragon, Page 62 ^^^^But if he does have a polished rock, and it is a dragon egg, and Roran will be a rider, why hasn't this "egg" hatched for him?

Maybe because, according to page 62, he left it behind in Garrow's house, and then it was either lost or destroyed when the ra'zac attacked Garrow and destroyed the house.--May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| ŗ 3 $ |-| ţ |-|) 15:40, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

DR7>.< OK, first of all, your right about the rock being left behind, but i think that the "rock" was nothing but that, a rock. and as for it being destroyed, it also said that the eggs were very strong and hard, so i doubt that the smashing of the house would destroy a egg. and if you are right and it was a dragon egg, how can roran become the next rider if it was destroyed?????? DR7>.<

Wait, that doesn't mean that Roran can't be the next Dragon rider. It was just a freaking worthless polished rock, the dragon egg is still in a different possession, so he could still be the next dragon rider, we have yet to find out.

Thanks for the page reference! It's so not a dragon egg.

1. If Eragon could find it, Galbatorix could. Moreover, Galbatorix would have known if there was a fourth egg to begin with.
2. It should have resembled Saphira's egg, which would have made Roran try to sell it (thus bringing it to everyone's attention so when Saphira's egg appeared they'd see the resemblance), or which would've meant that Roran at least would have recognized Saphira's egg.
3. If Roran's meant to be a Rider, the rock/egg would have hatched long ago.

JackInTheBox, April 15th 2006

And, he could bounce it in his hand for crying out loud! Unless the dragon inside will only be about 4 high when it's fully grown, then it is not a dragon egg. Also, I think the only significance of the rock was to show that Roran was trying to leave things that would bring back memories of either Eragon or Carvahall, for some reason. --Ω 13:39, 16 April 2006 (UTC) But remember two things:one,that Paolini never mentioned the size of the rock and 2:he didn't mention if Roran slept with it.68.196.121.7 19:18, 6 May 2006 (UTC)lalalad

DR7>.< First of all, Roran will not become a rider, this is because he may be royal blood, but that would only make him king of the land.. secound of all his "polished rock" is not described in any way, shape or form like the dragon eggs.. and his egg would have already hatched because of the presence of another dragon.... so roran is not the next rider. As for arya, there is a better chance of that because of the magic thing. and maybe the elf who fought Eragon in Elsmeria could become the next rider. i personally think that Brom should come back and take the position.. but he is dead and unless Eragon can call his soul back from within the valt of souls, that will never happen.. DR7

If this "rock" or "egg" was a dragon egg then when Eragon's egg hatched he would have relized that Roran's rock was a dragon egg. He would not just leave it there if it was. Now who has a better answer than that?

i agree, good point but back to what the person before you said about aryas magic. it was said that your magic is the color of your dragon but you can change the color but that would require you to have or have had a dragon. So Arya might have had a dragon in the past. But elves already have magic so it could have just been green to begin with for no specific reason at all.

Crystal Ball

I would say that this article differs from the Harry Potter articles for a number of reasons. This is filled with suggestions and ideas from fans, not with actual known facts about the next novel (see Prior speculation on Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince.) However, I believe that this style of writing provides some valid ideas about the next book. The article requires editing for consistency and style, and I am prepared to continue doing this, but it requires a lot of work. I have added a clean-up template to bring in outside help. However, there is one section that I do not believe adds to the speculation: comparisons between Inheritance and Star Wars and LotR. I feel we should delete this. Others? Ck lostsword|^queta! 17:25, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

I agree. It does not improve the article in any way (that I can see). I say delete it. (11987 07:27, 27 April 2006 (UTC))

Delete it and I will copy and paste it again and again until you are tired of deleting it.

Why do you want it up anyway? Whats so good about it that you feel inclined to do anyting to keep it up? (11987 08:26, 30 April 2006 (UTC))

It sometimes helps me on my speculation.

I wouldn't have come up with half of my ideas without it.

Yes, but we could find comparisons for almost every book, but we don't always have to note them. (11987 20:33, 5 July 2006 (UTC))

Speculation Page

I just came up with a possible solution for all the speculation. Would it be possible to create a independent page for all the speculation/theories/original research/similarities and on this page just have all of the facts and statements made by the author. i would be happy to create a page and move all of the speculation to that page. Does anyone else agree/disagree with this plan? (11987 10:03, 2 May 2006 (UTC))

We could create a sub-page of the article. However, a simple page move might be more effective. The only problem is, there would be very little left on this page. If we include a Known Facts section at the top of this page, perhaps including interviews with Paolini and other related text, whilst keeping the speculation at the bottom, I think it is fine as it is. The current article is conspicuously lacking in actual, citable fact. Another problem that I have seen is the lack of order and structure to the article: "Unconfirmed Rumours" and "Speculation" are in essence the same section. I therefore propose:

1. A new section called Known Facts, which would include definite, citable information
2. A replacement of the old sections with Speculation, preferably with all new additions at least mentioned on this talk page first
3. A major revamp of the speculation section's content (I have already tried to start this), removing sections that repeat themselves, cleaning up, using subheadings, &c.

I am fully prepared to make most of these changes, and I'm sure that 11987 will be equally happy to help. Any comments? Ck lostsword|^queta! 17:21, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

I think that is a great idea and would be happy to help with whatever I can. I can definetley start the Known Facts secion soon and then help the Speculation ssection. (11987 22:30, 2 May 2006 (UTC))

Adding a edit block for Book III

Who here thinks that the administrators should block anonymous users and newly registered members from editing Book III due to the persistent adding of speculation?Arlika1507 11:07, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

See above. Also uses of protection. Whilst it could be useful, it is very unlikely that this would happen. Sorry! Ck lostsword|^queta!|_Suggestions? 14:48, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Well at least it can be said that this is the most standardized place of information for Book III on the net, thats a good thing.Arlika1507 17:38, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Speculation

An anonymous user stated under the speculation heading that, "In order to kill Galbatorix, Eragon may need to kill himself." Due to a lack of any sort of reasoning for this statement, I've removed it. I don't quite understand where this concept came from and so I'm offering the decision to be open made. For the time being, I've removed it. Aznph8playa2 21:59, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

can we keep anything that doesnt have anything to do with the book out of here please. THAT INCLUDES THIS PAGE AND THE ONE AFTER AND BEFORE IT. thanks(64.252.114.56 00:27, 6 March 2007 (UTC))

Deletion of speculation

I've deleted all speculation that is not related to anything confirmed by Paolini or verifiable sources. If I deleted anything that is legitimate in that fashion, please restore it. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not some discussion board where opinions are stated loosely. Speculation belongs on the discussion board, and please keep it there. The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:68.198.239.81.

We have had this discussion repeatedly before, and I believe that the time has come to resolve it finally. We cannot have single users deleting and reverting the section. I feel that a straw poll of user opinions is necessary to provide an overall view of opinions on removing the speculations on this page. In the mean time, I have reinstated the speculation on the page; please do not remove until his discussion has been concluded (2 July 2006?). Ck lostsword|^queta! 09:24, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

July 2nd sounds good for me. (11987 01:12, 1 July 2006 (UTC))

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Support deletion

1. I have to support the deletion of speculation. There is way too much of it, and people keep adding more. The speculation does not improve the article, and it is all original research and SPECULATION. I believe it should be deleted. (11987 16:26, 25 June 2006 (UTC))
2. Delete all speculation as wikipedia is not a crystal ball. Or at the most, keep all speculation on this page.--May the Force be with you! Shreshth91^{(review me!)} 17:22, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
3. Please delete most or all of it! For heaven's sake, it seems like every single possibility has been covered. I think the stuff that Paolini has confirmed should stay, but not much else. BTW, is there an Inheritance wiki? We could transfer the speculation there if people really want to keep it all someplace. — 75.4.98.151 02:47, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Oppose deletion

1. See above (Crystal Ball. I believe that much of this fan information provides valid ideas about what might happen in the next book. However, the information that is included must be carefully vetted for style and repetitions, and it would be preferable if most of the speculation were kept on this page, with only some very likely 'facts' on the main article. Ck lostsword|^queta! 09:24, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

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Final result

Support Deletion - 3; Oppose Deletion - 1. I have deleted the speculation section. Thanks everyone - not a bad numbre of responses! Ck lostsword|^queta! 12:42, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Why can't we just get along?

Come on! Just keep the speculation there! It's not doing any harm. Here's an idea. Make a page called Inheritance 3rd Book Speculation! There's nothing wrong with that.

We've already discussed this. If you have a problem with it, you should blame yourself and everyone else who didn't vote for not voting. (11987 06:47, 4 July 2006 (UTC))

I talked to people and they want the speculation to stay. 5 people to be exact on my neopets guild.

And 4 people voted. That's not a large enough sample.

I'm really sorry, but as wikipedia is not a crystal ball, and thus, speculation is not allowed. If you want to have speculation, you should do so on speculation forums, or at the most, on this page (the talk page). --May the Force be with you! Shreshth91^{(esperanza elections!)} 15:48, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

THEN MAKE A PAGE CALLED SPECULATION FOR INHERITANCE BOOK 3! I have nothing to do without the speculation there! I'm bored to death!

NO article on Wikipedia can contain speculation, so we can't create a separate page for speculation. --May the Force be with you! Shreshth91^{(esperanza elections!)} 15:53, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

What about the before Harry Potter book 6 page (something like that)?! That's an artical without facts!

I didn't know about that and if i did i would try to delete it. But the fact is we voted, and the vote caused the speculation to be deleted. 5 people on neopets won't help you now. Besides, that harry potter page should be deleted. No speculation! (11987 16:11, 4 July 2006 (UTC))

The page was Prior speculation on Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, and was nominated for AfD thrice, but not deleted. I'll nominate it for deletion.--May the Force be with you! Shreshth91^{(esperanza elections!)} 16:46, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Done.--May the Force be with you! Shreshth91^{(esperanza elections!)} 17:20, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

It's been there for a while though...

Its been nominated, and so far it seems like its going to be deleted.

Why did I mention it?!

Deal

Ok. We'll copy and paste the speculation onto here, and people can add stuff.

Onto the Talk Page? (11987 16:19, 4 July 2006 (UTC))

Yes.

I think that can be allowed. Just not on the article page. (11987 16:24, 4 July 2006 (UTC))

That seems perfectly fair to everyone. Thanks 11987! Ck lostsword|^queta! 19:11, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Great. :-)

Speculation

This section is based on speculation over events of the forthcoming third book in Christopher Paolini's Inheritance Trilogy. As such, none of the following information can be regarded as fact, merely the opinions of those who contribute to the article.

Concerning How a Person Is Chosen To Be a Rider

• It is commonly thought that a person's parentage affects their chances of becoming a Rider. However, many, or even most, of the Riders had might not have Riders for parents. Probably the best reason is that it still depends upon a dragon in its egg to choose any given person as its Rider. Hence there exists no absolute chance of the above being true. This idea may have taken root from the fact that both Morzan's known sons became Riders.
• Paolini confirmed in a March 2006 interview that when a dragon and Rider become linked, the Rider's magic immediately takes on the color of the dragon's scales. However, this does not mean that if you are a magic user born with green energy, you cannot be paired with an amethyst-colored dragon, for example. On being linked, your magic will automatically change from green to purple - although you can change colors at your will. Paolini states that although Eragon's magic is blue, he could produce red fire if he wanted to. So far, however, Riders have chosen to use the automatic color - their dragon's color. Oromis uses gold magic, Murtagh's energy is ruby-red, and Eragon's is bright blue. Shruikan is black, although the dragon that actually chose Galbatorix might have been another color; the union between Galbatorix and Shruikan isn't a true dragon-Rider union, so Galbatorix's automatic color may still be that of his original dragon, though he may have chosen to change it after so many decades.

Concerning Isidar Mithrim, the Star Sapphire

• It has been suggested by unconfirmed sources allegedly "close to Paolini" that Eragon and Saphira will mend the star sapphire. This will give it the ability to hold massive amounts of magical energy, perhaps giving Eragon the strength to kill Galbatorix.

DR7 >.< Ah, perhaps the final battle between Eragon and Galbatorix will take place on the newly repaird sapphire and Eragon will draw power from the power it took to repair it in some way... and with that new power end the evil kings life and rule....DR7 >.<

• it could be his true name because i dont think brom ever told eragon what they meant, so it could be and he just doesnt know it and thats why he was able to lie to durza.

Concerning the words Brom told Eragon before he died

• The words may be the name of the ancient language
• The words COULD NOT be Eragon's true name, because after Brom's death, Eragon thinks to himself that he could not tell Durza his true name because he "Does not know it himself."

   it could have been his true name or at least part of them but he might not know because brom didnt tell him what the words were.

• The words may be Galbatorix's true name
• The words may be the spell that nearly destroyed life on Alageasia once.
• The words may be the way to draw energy straight from light, fire, etc.
• The words may be Brom telling Eragon that he is his father. <If they where then why did Eragon believe Murtagh when he said that Eragons father was the leader of the forsworn? --82.5.75.13 21:45, 22 February 2007 (UTC)>
• The words may be Brom's ressurection spell

Concerning the next Rider

• Both Eragon and Murtagh are the sons of Morzan, who was a powerful, albeit evil, Dragon Rider. Dragons chose to hatch for both the sons, and now they have both become Riders. It therefore makes sense if the third Rider for whom the last dragon will hatch will be the descendant of a Rider. The only old Dragon Riders we know are Galbatorix, Morzan, Vrael, Brom and Oromis, and apart from Morzan it is not known if any of the others had children. The last Rider may be an entirely new character, or a character that has already appeared in the first two books.
• The next Rider may be Arya Dröttningu, and her dragon may become Saphira's mate. This may create the additional impetus necessary for Eragon and Arya to become romantically involved as well. Arya is also of royal blood and Angela predicted that Eragon would love someone of noble birth. However, this is thought unlikely because Arya has three times rejected Eragon's attempts to court her. Some argue that she will be chosen because her magic is green. However, the revelation made by Paolini in the March 2006 interview (over live chat) means that Arya may not necessarily become the next Rider just because her magic is green - another may be chosen, and their energy would then automatically give green magic. Proponents of the Arya theory also argue that she has green eyes, although the significance of this is debatable. Another reason why she may become the next Rider is that she is a complete Mary Sue.
• Roran is a likely candidate, as he shows leadership abilities and is the cousin of a Rider - this would make a family of Riders: Morzan, his sons Eragon and Murtagh, and their cousin Roran. It is likely that Nasuada, Murtagh, Eragon, Arya and Roran will be the main leaders in the war (apart from the reigning royals Islanzadi, Galbatorix, Orrin and Hrothgar's likely successor Orik), and it is therefore suitable that Roran's power is enhanced by a link to a dragon.

• The next rider could be roran because when he and eragon go to helgrind the egg might be there because Galby thought the Ra'zac could protect it better than anyone else. That would make it possible for roran to get the egg when they rescue Katrina. DR7 >.< Do you honestly think that Galbatorix would trust the third egg to them????? Come on....DR7 >.<
• The next Rider could be Nasuada, as of the fact that she is leader of the Varden and a formidable force in her own right, and her dragon and Saphira may mate. This would also give her long life, which would make a sexuemotional relationship with Murtagh-- or even Eragon-- possible.
• Elva may become the next Rider, as she will obviously play a major role in "Empire" although we have yet to see what that role may be. She also has the mark of the dragons on her forehead, which could connect her to dragons in some special way.
• The next Rider may be Katrina. If Galbatorix moved the eggs for safety after Saphira's was taken, he may have entrusted them to the Ra'zac, his powerful and loyal servants, in Helgrind, an impenitrable fortress for all but those with wings. Murtagh may have been taken to the eggs or the eggs taken to him for testing when Thorn hatched. Katrina is also in Helgrind. It would be possible that she makes contact with the egg and it hatches for her. This would explain Eragon's 'Deathwatch' vision, the male and female boarding a boat, two dragons overhead, and a man crying out in anguish. If the man is Roran, it would make sense that he cries for the love that is being taken from him.
• The next Rider may be a female elf to keep the balance, as both Eragon and Murtagh are male humans.
• It is also possible the Vanir may be the next Rider since Eragon said that any of the elves, even Vanir, would make a better Rider than him.
• The next rider may be Eragon and Murtagh's brother/sister. (See below in "Other") If the second book is titled "Eldest", and we look at the proper mechanics of english, then there must be at least 3 siblings. Eldest is a superlative adjective and must refer to one out of a group of 3 or more. If there were only two brothers the author would use the comparative form, "Elder." Murtagh says that Zar'roc should have gone to Morzan's "Eldest son, not his youngest." This means that there are at least three children in the family, with Murtagh being the oldest and Eragon younger than Murtagh the next sibling may be older or younger than Eragon. So even though there has been no hinting that there is another sibling it is very likely that a third sibling will be the next rider. It might even be Nasuada herself because both her and Eragon's mother left them when they were young.
• If the new rider is Eragon and Murtagh's brother/sister then the chance is Galbatorix may persuade him/her to join forces with him
• It could be possible that this is Nasuada, whose mother died is the final rider, the quote of the Raven could also pertain to her all her mother is the same as Eragon's all three Eragon, Murtagh and Nasuada would be half-siblings and she could possibly be the final rider.
• The chances of Arya being the next rider are good. She is a female elf, which would create more of a balance among the riders. And it would ease some of the tensions between the elves and the varden because they feel as though elves are better suited to be riders so are a bit upset about two new human riders. As mentioned above it would take too much time for training a new rider, unless the new rider already has proper training, which Arya has, which would make her a perfect candidate. Arya is on the "good side" as is Eragon, therefore their dragons would be possible mates.

Concerning the third dragon

• The green dragon egg contains a male, as confirmed by Murtagh in Eldest
• The third dragon may mate with Saphira and produce another offspring.
• Murtagh might try to protect the Varden by giving them the third egg, thereby allowing the next Rider to be chosen from within the Varden's ranks.
• Christopher Paolini has confirmed that the third dragon will be green and will be featured on the cover on his next book (Jan. 2006).

Concerning Eragon's new weapon

• Eragon's lost sword may be replaced by the weapon under the roots of the Menoa tree.
• The weapon under the Menoa Tree might be the original Eragon's sword. This sword may be set with sapphires. It may once have been Brom's sword before his Saphira's death. Brom obviously lost the sword at some point, because in Carvahall the only Rider sword he had belonged to Morzan.
• What if Solumbum, when he said 'roots', meant origin (which is a definition of root), and Eragon would have to go to one of the oldest elven families (possibly related to the person who sang herself into the menoa tree, whatever her name was) to get a sword (remember, someone said that if there were any remaining Rider swords, they would be protected by elven families). Maybe Brom's old sword? He lost it, remember?
• The Dwarfs and Elves may work together to make Eragon a new sword matching Saphira's scales.
• The Weapon might have been the "gift of dragons, Eragon's new guise in 'Eldest"
• Oromis might give Eragon Naegling (the gold sword the elves made him) before he dies (it is not confirmed wheather Oromis & Glaedr die but it is possible).
• It is possible that since there are 2 swords other than Naegling. One of them could be blue and Eragon could inherit that sword. That sword could also be Brom's who could possibly be Eragon's relative (such as a grandfather).

Concerning the Quote of the Raven, Bladgen

• Interpreted to mean Eragon and Murtagh are indeed half-brothers

While two <Children> may share two <Parents>

And one <Child> of two <Parents> is certainly one

One <Mother> might be <Mother to> two <Children of different Fathers>.

So this may mean that Eragon's Mother, after leaving Morzan, had a relationship with Brom and Eragon is Brom's son. Alternatively, it could refer to Eragon's own rationalization of his upbringing:

"While two <sons> may share two <parents> And one <parent> of two <parents> is certainly one, One <role> might be <held by> two <people>".

This reflects how Eragon chose to think of Morzan only as his sire, whereas it was Garrow (Morzan's brother-in-law) who raised Eragon, fulfilling the social role of a father.

Concerning the Vault of Souls

• The Vault of Souls was, according to Solembum, to be used by Eragon when he was in need of great power. We have yet to see how this is achieved. It could be similar to Aragorn (in The Return of the King), where he enters the "Paths of the Dead" and bind the souls to help him fight the forces of evil.
• Perhaps when Eragon yells his name into the vault of souls he will be able to contact Brom's spirit, and Brom will tell him the he is not Morzan's Son, but his own, thus empowering Eragon and relieving him of his dark lineage.
• Maybe a group of Dragons will re-emerge in Alagäesia from the Vault of Souls and join forces with the elves, dwarfs and humans in battle.
• We may see Vroengard, which could be the location of the Vault of Souls
• It is possible that Helgrind is also the Vault of Souls.
• Utgard Mountain may also be the location of the Vault of Souls.
• The Vault of Souls may be located at the gates of Doru Araeba
• The soul of Brom may somehow come and guide Eragon to the Vault of Souls, where he finds the soul of Eragon (the first rider) and therefore gains the power to defeat Galbatorix.
• Eragon finds the Vaults of Soul and finds the soul of Vrael, giving him enough power to destroy both Murtagh & Galbatorix.
• the vault of souls may be the weapon underneath the menoa tree ( Eragon could use a soul to learn new abilities giving him the ability to defeat Galbatorix)
• Murtagh may have used the vault of souls to get so much stronger.
• Eragon might consult the dead for advice, as Allanon does in The Sword of Shannara.

Concerning the Rock of Kuthian

• The rock of Kuthian is the Vault of Souls because that's what Solembaum told Eragon.
• The Rock of Kuthian could have been an old name for Helgrind, before the Ra’zac lived there.
• The rock of Kuthian may be the rock Eragon used for scrying in Vision of Perfection

Concerning Eragon's dream in the chapter "Deathwatch"

• The two people going back on the ship 'Dragon Wing' towards Vroengard may be Eragon and Arya, and the person watching may be Roran or Murtagh.
• The two dragons circling in the chapter "Deathwatch" could be Saphira and Murtagh's dragon, Thorn. The third Green dragon could become Arya's. (See Regarding the next Rider above) Or it could be Shruikan, who was freed after Galbatorix died.
• The dream Eragon has in "Deathwatch" could be of him leaving the land Alagäesia forever as prophesized by Angela, with Saphira and the green dragon circling.
• Someone important could die in "Empire" thus explaining why the man on the beach in the chapter "Deathwatch" let out an 'aching cry'.
• As Eragon perceives that one of the veiled people in "Deathwatch" is a woman, it seems very likely that the next Rider will be female.
• The two people boarding the ship could be Roran & Katrina.

Concerning Eragon's Romantic Life

• Eragon may marry Arya and become the next leader of the Riders. However, Angela prophesized that he would leave Alagäesia forever.
• In the first book (Eragon), the herbalist Angela talks of Brom's failed love. Perhaps Brom and Arya were in love but it was not to be. This would explain why Arya is so desperate to not have a relationship with Eragon because of past memories; however, it is suggested or hinted in the books that Arya misses her bodyguard Faolain more than any other. Having been among mortals for seventy of a hundred years, she has apparently fallen into the human habit of keeping pain semi-secret.
• Eragon can marry Nasuada since she is the ruler of the Varden and closer to Eragon's age.
• Katrina may become the last of the Dragon Riders, forcing Eragon to mate with her even as their dragons couple.
• Arya may discover that they are meant to be together, a possible reason being that she has been the egg courier for so long, hence dragon magic being unpredictable as it is, led to the dragon (Saphira) developing a link with her. Hence when Eragon became the dragon's (Saphira's) Rider he came to share in this connection with Arya.

Concerning Eragon's becoming stronger

• Eragon could become as strong as Murtagh or stronger.
• Eragon finds the Vaults of Soul and find Vrael's soul expanding his power enormously.
• Eragon might unlock the Vault of Souls and attain Eragon's (the first Rider) soul, therefore giving him the power to kill Galbatorix.
• Eragon may meet and be taught by a surviving member of the "Grey Folk" race, who might be Nasuada because of her and her father's strange skin tone and body build(never explained by Paolini himself).
• I have to add, GREY folk. Nasuada is of a DARKER skin color. Hence, although Paolini never confirms the fact that Nasuada is not a Grey being, I think we can hypothesis that she is not, because she is such a different character. That would be too off the scheme of things, I think that if Eragon does meet some of the Grey Folk, they are going to be entirely new characters altogether.
• Eragon could learn to take energy and power from light, fire, and water. Oromis did not know how to do this, but said that one could get great power from these things.
• Eragon may be able to draw energy from enemies, such as Galbatorix's common soldiers. I don't see why he didn't before though, during the battle at the Burning Plains. He was capable of drawing power from living beings, and that would be a two and one situation, he would gain power and also kill the soldiers. Why hasn't he done this before?<Galbatorix's wizards were protecting them>
• Eragon may meet one of/the last of the Grey Folk and learn more than with elves. He could learn how to get energy from non-living sources or learn the true name of magic.
• Eragon may use Brom's diamond tomb to store immense amounts of energy.
• Eragon's ability to pull magical energy from living creatures could be a source of great power for defeating Galbatorix.

Concerning Galbatorix's continuous increase in power

• Oromis mentioned that he did know how Galbatorix continues to increase his power. He also said that it is possible to draw energy from light, fire, etc., although Master Oromis does not know how this is done. Galbatorix may be using this technique to empower himself.
• There have been references to moving and replicating one's identity (soul) into another person's body. It may be that Galbatorix has found a way to imprison the souls of those he kills, in the same way that sorcerers use spirits to gain power.

Other

• It is suggested that Morzan cannot be Eragon's father because during the trilogy Eragon is fifteen to sixteen years of age, while it is mentioned that Brom killed Morzan twenty years ago. Although it is never mentioned, most fans believe Murtagh to also be less than twenty, therefore Morzan cannot be his father either.
• Brom may be Eragon's father and Selena his mother. This would explain why she took the baby to Carvahall and why Brom was always looking out for Eragon. Brom also said that he knew Selena well enough to miss her when she left. Eragon's dragon (Saphira)is named the same as Brom's and also the same color.
• Brom may be Eragon's relative
• Surda may expand to fill the dying empire thus in a way Eragon "leaves" Alagaesia "forever"(the empire is the bordering kingdom, not Alagaesia!).
• Eragon may move to Surda or Vroengard or Du Weldenvarden, because these are separate from Alagaesia and would thus fulfill Angela's prophecy that he would leave Alagaesia forever.
• Also fulfilling the prophecy of Eragon leaving Alagaesia is possible having Arya take the throne as queen of Ellesmera for her mother. Then Eraogn and Arya having a relationship and him becoming king. They live together and they left Alagaesia.
• Roran and Eragon will go and slay the Ra'zaac to save Katrina and Sloan. Sloan will see Roran in another light and be happy with the marriage. Sloan will give Katrina back her inheritance.
• Roran may be the logical successor to Galbatorix (The King of Men), as he, Eragon and Murtagh may possess the "royal blood" that still flows in Palancar Valley. It is noted in Eragon how Eragon and Roran are different from the other people in Carvahall. This might be true, especially if they are descendants of King Palancar. Murtagh is similar to Eragon in many ways, and was brought up in the king's palace.
• If Murtagh is Eragon's only sibling then the title of book two would be "Elder", not "Eldest", according to the rules of grammar, elder means older of two, while eldest means older of at least three. This may mean that Eragon has another brother or sister, though Eldest may have been referring to the fact that Glaedr is the eldest to Shruikan and Saphira. Eldest may also mean Saphira is the eldest of the last three dragons. Even if the statement applies to the rules of perfect grammar, 'The eldest of the two' is sometimes used as a figure of speech.
• Galbatorix might capture Eragon and have him drugged. Galbatorix then might have force Eragon to join him the way he did with Murtagh - in the Ancient Language.
• Galbatorix may turn good again. (not plausable)
• The green dragon may belong to a enemy, but the dragon falls in love with Saphira.
• Eragon may force Galbatorix to free Murtagh and Thorn from his oaths.
• The name of the dragon who presided over the treaty with the Elves may be discovered.
• A wizards' duel may occur (perhaps between Eragon and Murtagh or Galbatorix). <this idea of a "duel" isnt very likely becuse the fighters would need to gain control over the others mind wich would more be a battle of minds rather than a Wizards duel because to attak the other with fire or by throwing objects would be a pointless waste of energy since the Wards protecting the fighters would prevent harm the only way one would win is to gain control of the others mind wich leaves his own mind exposed and mean the other could strike back and neither would risk this so the only way to win would be to burn the other users energy down until it kills them + if the two were evenly matched it would probably result in both their deaths because i will take about the same ammount of energy to block the attack as it does to throw it out they may do this while battering each other with swords at the same time but to just stand their and fight in such a way would seem rather pointless because it would be a two page repeat of "Eragon threw out a volley of fire wich stop short of Murtagh by about ten feet Murtagh fliched as the energy was lost but returned with his own volley of fire"..ETC >
• Eragon and Az Sweldn Rak Anhuin will come to an agreement, which may involve either the clan or Eragon being banished from the Dwarf world.
• Murtagh may die for breaking an oath made to Galbatorix in the Ancient Language.
• Eragon and Roran may kill the Ra'zaac, possibly assisted by Arya Dröttningu.
• Orik may succeed Hrothgar.
• Eragon repairs the curse he mistakenly placed on Elva, and Saphira repairs the Star Rose of Tronjheim which was destroyed in the battle. The former may wait until later; Elva's burden might force her to become a Dragon Rider.
• King Orrin of Surda might be slain, as so far the leaders of two of the factions have died from one cause or another, and he might follow the pattern. Queen Islanzadi might be exempt from this chain of events however, as Islanzadi is not going into battle herself.
• King Orrin discovers gunpowder in his chemical experiments, giving the Varden primitive muskets and cannons for use in battle.
• If Galbatorix is defeated, Murtagh and Thorn may emerge from their forced allegiance to the king and return to the Varden.
• Murtagh may succeed Galbatorix and become the main enemy after Galbatorix is defeated by Eragon and the Last Rider.
• We may witness a double dragon duel between Saphira and the third dragon vs. Shruikan and Thorn.
• We should also see a lot more of Arya's earlier life and learn why she secludes herself and behaves in such a haughty manner. (Perhaps she was romantically involved with Fäolin, one of her escorts, who was killed by the Urgals under Durza's control when Arya was captured.)
• Eragon could possibly learn a spell that can release Shruikan from Galbatorix's black magic therefore allowing Eragon to overpower him.
• The village of Carvahall may establish a new village in Surda where their skills in farming, blacksmithing, herding, and carpentry will supply much needed resources to the Varden.<this is basicly confirmd in Eldest>
• Eragon may be Brom's son as their dragons are named the same and also the same colour. Murtagh would definitely be Morzan's son as their dragons are named the same and also the same colour.
• Eragon may succeed Hrothgar as he is a member of his Dwarf clan.
• Eragon has rightfull claims to most of the factions, As a member of Hrothgar's Dwarf clan, he could succeed as its ruler. He also is the sucessor to lead the Varden, (there have been hints that Narsuada might retire or die as leader), and if he defeats Galbatorix, he has a claim to the Empire (another idea is the royal blood from Palancar). The other claims, which are weaker, are over the Elves, as a rider, and over the Urgals, as he would be high up according to their system of battle-honour. This could mean Eragon gets pestered to rule over everything, and then leaves to escape this, or any other possibility.
• One idea is that someone important to Eragon dies, probably defending him (Arya/Murtagh), and then Eragon somehow gains access to Galbatorix's mind, and uses energy from Galbatorix to resurrect this person, killing Galbatorix at the same time. Another take would be Eragon resurrects the race of dragons using such a power, or rights another wrong somehow. (It is likely that the someone close to him who dies was Brom.)
• Murtagh and Nasuada could actually be in love and this love along with Murtaghs love for Eragon could cause him to go against his oaths, killing Galbatorix and almost dying himself. <M.E.- murtagh isnt going to do anything his true nature was revealed in the chapter "Eldest." > <it might b possible driven by compassion for Eragon his only closest living relative saves Eragon by taking a death blow for him alowing Eragon to finish Galbatorix>
• Vrael might be related to Eragon because when Islanzadi gave Eragon the title the Leader of the Riders, she said it was his inheritance. ( This is only because he is destined for that title because he may ((Depending on weather Saphira mates)) be the start of a new Dragon Race)
• Eragon could learn how to cure Oromis and Glaedr of their disabilities and Oromis' sickness.
• Joed may use the passage he and Brom used to steal Saphira's egg to steal the last green one.
• Angela's prophecy of Eragon leaving Alagaesia may not come true. (Angela Claimes the Dragon Bones dont lie meaning Eragon WIL leave however this could mean tht Alagaesia ceases to exist when Galbatorix dies and the Elves and Surdans exapnd into Alagaesia)<Urbanninja3>
• I believe that when saphira AND Eragon heal the star sapphire it will enable the gem to hold vast amounts of power (could be a super weapon)(but its too big to carry) which will help them defeat the empire. <Urbanninja3>
• How could Oromis be kept secret all these years if he was a dragon rider. Galbatorix would have to know. Unless he became a dragon rider after the fall, secretly finding a dragon egg.

(Oromis metions that the FORSWORN broke something within him he has to have been around before the fall and he could quite easily hide in Du Weldenvarden because the Elves have remined hidden here for so long without being botherd by Galbatorix) The possiblity that there were other eggs is also very unlikely becuse the Dragons would have know to give every egg to the elves during the war because it may have turned the tide of the battle)<Urbanninja3>

Look...

-Roran could succed Orrin as King of Surda

DR7 >.< Why wouldn't he just succed Galbatorix?

We graciously allowed speculation to be allowed on the talk page, but if people keep adding speculaton to the main article, im gonna request it be protected. Which means people cant edit it. (11987 02:21, 14 July 2006 (UTC))

But that would mean all of the people that don't keep putting it onto the mail artical wouldn't be able to add things.

Yup, but we'll unprotect it to add REAL info. We made a deal, so people like you should keep it. (11987 23:53, 14 July 2006 (UTC))

So is it going to be protected or not? I vote for not.

I've got to say that protceting seems a bit excessive. However, there seems to be some case for semi-protecting, banning non-users from editing. I would agree to this, but not to full protection. Ck lostsword|^queta! 16:19, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

That's not fair.

Im not saying were gonna ban it; this is a warning. speculation doesn't belong on the articles page. Please dont overreact. I mean, its not fair that people like you r going back on our deal, is it?(11987 23:00, 16 July 2006 (UTC))

I never agreed to anything and since this page is open to so many people, you should not protect it or do anything that would not allow people to make additions or changes.

Look, dont spaz out. all i ask is that speculation be kept on this page like we voted on, but not the article page becuz speculation is not technically allowed on Wiki. Please, dont get worked up over nothing. Just a simple request. (11987 02:47, 17 July 2006 (UTC))

Just keep it unprotected people!

There will not be any protection of the article, please see WP:PPOL#Uses for reasons. If a highly visible and vandalized article like 2006 FIFA World Cup was not protected except once or twice, why should this comparatively _{insignificant} article be protected. --May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| ŗ 3 $ |-| ţ |-|) 15:14, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

I dont really care, the problem hasn't persisted. Dont add speculation to the main article. That WAS the deal' dont even try to deny it. Kepp speculaton here. (11987 22:21, 17 July 2006 (UTC))

who put this as top-importance?

I did, and it obviously is; it's a book in the series the project is all about, for Christ's sake! An it receives a lot of speculation which needs to be cleared up, and replaced with proper verified info.--May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| ŗ 3 $ |-| ţ |-|) 14:29, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, we decided to keep the speculation here, so people can put all of their crazy ideas without people taking them off...like my one theory about the piece of a green dragon egg that eragon stepped on.

List of Speculated Possible Titles

With some relatively quick work, I generated this alphabetical list of words that start with e and have six letters:

1. eacles 2. eadish 3. eadwig 4. eagles 5. eaglet 6. eakins 7. ealing 8. earful 9. earing 10. earlap 11. earlet 12. earned 13. earner 14. eartha 15. earthy 16. earwax 17. earwig 18. easier 19. easily 20. easing 21. easley 22. easter 23. easton 24. eatage 25. eatery 26. eating 27. ebbing 28. ebcdic 29. ebitda 30. ecarte 31. ecbole 32. eccles 33. ecesis 34. echard 35. echini 36. echium 37. echoed 38. echoes 39. echoic 40. eckert 41. eckley 42. eclair 43. eclegm 44. econet 45. ecorse 46. ecosoc 47. ecowas 48. ectomy 49. ectopy 50. ectype 51. ecurie 52. eczema 53. eddied 54. eddies 55. eddish 56. eddoes 57. edenic 58. edessa 59. edgier 60. edging 61. edible 62. edirne 63. edison 64. edisto 65. edited 66. editor 67. edmond 68. edmund 69. educed 70. edward 71. eelpot 72. eeprom 73. eerier 74. eerily 75. efface 76. effect 77. effete 78. effigy 79. effing 80. efflux 81. efform 82. effort 83. effray 84. effume 85. effuse 86. efreet 87. eftpos 88. egbert 89. egeria 90. egesta 91. eggcup 92. egging 93. eggler 94. eggnog 95. egling 96. egoism 97. egoist 98. egoity 99. egress 100. egriot 101. ehlite 102. eiffel 103. eighth 104. eighty 105. eileen 106. eirene 107. either 108. ejecta 109. elaeis 110. elaine 111. elance 112. elanet 113. elanus 114. elaphe 115. elapid 116. elapse 117. elated 118. elater 119. elavil 120. elbert 121. elbing 122. elbows 123. elcaja 124. elders 125. eldest 126. elding 127. eldora 128. eldred 129. elegit 130. elemin 131. elench 132. eleven 133. elevon 134. elfish 135. elicit 136. elided 137. elijah 138. elisha 139. elison 140. elisor 141. elissa 142. elites 143. elixir 144. elkins 145. elknut 146. elleck 147. ellery 148. elliot 149. ellora 150. elmira 151. elmont 152. elmore 153. elnora 154. elodea 155. elohim 156. eloign 157. eloise 158. eloped 159. eloper 160. elsass 161. elspar 162. eluant 163. eluate 164. eluded 165. eluent 166. elvers 167. elvira 168. elvish 169. elwood 170. elymus 171. elyria 172. elytra 173. embale 174. embalm 175. embank 176. embark 177. embase 178. embers 179. emblem 180. embody 181. emboli 182. emboly 183. emboss 184. embrew 185. embrue 186. embryo 187. embusy 188. emerge 189. emeril 190. emesis 191. emetic 192. emeute 193. emigre 194. emilia 195. emilie 196. eminem 197. emmaus 198. emmett 199. emmove 200. emodin 201. empair 202. empale 203. empark 204. empasm 205. empery 206. empire 207. employ 208. emptor 209. empuse 210. emrods 211. emulge 212. emydea 213. enable 214. enamel 215. enamor 216. enarch 217. enatic 218. enbrel 219. encage 220. encamp 221. encase 222. encash 223. encave 224. encina 225. encode 226. encore 227. encyst 228. endear 229. enders 230. endian 231. endict 232. ending 233. endite 234. endive 235. endoss 236. endrin 237. endure 238. enduro 239. endyma 240. enemas 241. energy 242. enerve 243. enface 244. enfant 245. enfire 246. enfold 247. enform 248. engage 249. engagé 250. engaol 251. engels 252. engild 253. engine 254. engird 255. engirt 256. englut 257. engore 258. engram 259. engulf 260. enhalo 261. enigma 262. enisle 263. enjoin 264. enkidu 265. enlace 266. enlard 267. enlink 268. enlist 269. enmesh 270. enmity 271. ennead 272. ennius 273. enodal 274. enopla 275. enosis 276. enough 277. enrace 278. enrage 279. enrank 280. enrapt 281. enrich 282. enring 283. enrive 284. enrobe 285. enroll 286. enroot 287. ensate 288. enseal 289. enseam 290. ensear 291. ensete 292. ensign 293. ensile 294. ensoul 295. ensued 296. ensure 297. entail 298. entame 299. entero 300. entice 301. entire 302. entity 303. entoil 304. entomb 305. entrap 306. entree 307. entrée 308. entune 309. enured 310. envied 311. envier 312. envies 313. enwall 314. enwind 315. enwomb 316. enwrap 317. enzyme 318. eocene 319. eolian 320. eolith 321. eonian 322. eonism 323. eosdis 324. eozoic 325. eparch 326. epaule 327. epeira 328. ephebe 329. ephori 330. ephors 331. ephyra 332. epical 333. epigee 334. epigon 335. epilog 336. epimer 337. epirus 338. epivir 339. epizoa 340. epoche 341. epogen 342. eponym 343. epopee 344. epping 345. epulis 346. equals 347. equant 348. equate 349. equery 350. equine 351. equity 352. erased 353. eraser 354. erbium 355. erebus 356. erenow 357. erfurt 358. erhard 359. eringo 360. erinys 361. erivan 362. erlang 363. ermine 364. ernest 365. eroded 366. erolia 367. erotic 368. errand 369. errant 370. errata 371. erring 372. errors 373. ersatz 374. erucic 375. erving 376. eryngo 377. erythr 378. escape 379. escarp 380. escent 381. eschar 382. escher 383. eschew 384. escort 385. escout 386. escrow 387. escudo 388. esdras 389. eskimo 390. esloin 391. esmond 392. esnecy 393. esodic 394. espace 395. espana 396. espial 397. espied 398. esprit 399. essays 400. essene 401. essive 402. essoin 403. estate 404. esteem 405. esters 406. esther 407. estill 408. estral 409. estray 410. estrin 411. estrus 412. esture 413. etalon 414. etched 415. etcher 416. eterne 417. ethane 418. ethene 419. ethics 420. ethide 421. ethine 422. ethion 423. ethiop 424. ethnic 425. ethnos 426. ethoxy 427. ethule 428. ethyne 429. etnean 430. etoile 431. etowah 432. etymon 433. euboea 434. euchre 435. euclid 436. eudora 437. eugene 438. euless 439. eulogy 440. eumops 441. eunice 442. eunomy 443. eunuch 444. euonym 445. eupnea 446. eureka 447. europa 448. europe 449. eustis 450. eutaxy 451. evaded 452. evanid 453. evelyn 454. evened 455. evener 456. evenki 457. evenly 458. events 459. everse 460. evilly 461. evince 462. evista 463. evoked 464. evolve 465. evreux 466. evzone 467. ewenki 468. exacta 469. exacum 470. examen 471. exarch 472. exceed 473. except 474. excern 475. excerp 476. excess 477. excide 478. excise 479. excite 480. excoct 481. excuse 482. excuss 483. exedra 484. exempt 485. exequy 486. exeter 487. exeunt 488. exhale 489. exhort 490. exhume 491. exiled 492. exilic 493. exists 494. exitus 495. exmoor 496. exocet 497. exodic 498. exodus 499. exogen 500. exolve 501. exonym 502. exosat 503. exotic 504. expand 505. expect 506. expede 507. expend 508. expert 509. expire 510. expiry 511. export 512. expose 513. exposé 514. expugn 515. exsect 516. exsert 517. extant 518. extasy 519. extend 520. extent 521. extern 522. extill 523. extine 524. extirp 525. extort 526. extras 527. exuded 528. exuvia 529. exwife 530. eyalet 531. eyebar 532. eyecup 533. eyeful 534. eyelet 535. eyelid

Of course, this list is not exhaustive and doesn't include proper nouns. And some are very, very unlikely to be used. --DrZeus 01:03, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Wow. This was "quick"? It would be interesting if the title ended up "eunuch" or "exwife". :) Putting an extra space between each item would make it into a 1-column list, but that would make the page a whole lot longer.--Spyderchan 02:14, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Um, apparently you had some free time!

This is fairly stupid but i must admit that this is effort or you must have used a letter engine. (Telioty)

LOL...i would laugh it the title was eyelid...but nice work...

Or Eminem lol, imagine that

Reality check

I, like most people, asume the last dragon egg will hatch for someone on Eragon's side however for that to happen the egg will have to be stolen from Galbatrix ,just like Saphira was, and then a rider will have to be found. The dragon will be more likley to hatch for one of Galbatrix's people. < more likely is that a person who is sick of Galbatorix's rule may steal it and send it to the verden>

Also, things like learning of his hearitige or his missprounced blessing affected Eragon more than the 7 words that brom told Eragon before he died. This seguests that they are most likley to be some simple words in the acient language that eragon could use if he needed, or somthing simmilar. Eragon's reaction didn't seem to segest that they were anything extremly drastic or important

Title?

I thought it was Empire. I thought everyone knew that. I seem to recall some sort of interview with CP where before Eldest was published in which his said the books were named Eragon, Eldest, and Empire. Would someone try to find it?

It doesn't make sense. The first to titels are linked to persons. i think the third one will keep this tradition. Maybe its the true name of somebody who we allredy know under her (or his) public name (but thats only fan-speculation *g*) 88.117.81.72 21:30, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

• Then maybe it was Emperor? Or maybe that's the name of the Green Dragon. I don't know... it was a long while ago (like I said, before Eldest came out). I do recall an interview (or whatever it was) that referenced the titles of all 3 books (the third obviously being to the effect of 'Empire'), but I can't find it on the Net.

Can We Call the Article "Empire?"

Hey I'm curious whether the title of the article can be changed to Empire. This seems to be the confirmed title of the book and the cover of the book says "Empire" (if that picture is legitimate). Just curious. Thanks, Demosthenes 1 14:35, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

It used be called "Empire" (see Requested move above), but was changed because that's not official, its just fan speculation. That cover is just some fan's drawing, so I don't know why its on there. I'll remove it.--Fyre2387 ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:35, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Alright thanks. I felt like there was something fishy about that cover. Does anyone know when the author will announce the title? Because "Book 3 (Inheritance trilogy)" bugs the heck out of me. Demosthenes 1 01:11, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Elves. And Galbatorix. And True Names.

If elves can sense true names (as Brom said), why can't they sense the true name of Galbatorix, thus controling him and possibly defeating them?--Perfect Shadow, Ultimate Wiki Form 19:50, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

(I think it requires that the person be willing to learn their name and for them to be within close proximity to an elf for quite some time)

It might be a straightforward contradiction, or perhaps mages can defend against this ability.

FleckerMan 82.71.38.163 05:49, 18 January 2007 (UTC): I was under the impression that elves can sense their _own_ true names, rather than other peoples... bracketed comment above makes sence, though.

In Eragon, Brom says that the Riders sometimes go on a quest to learn their own true name, or they can ask an elf.(However, they will not usually give this information freely.)So, Perfect's theory is plausible.....actually, its quite likely. Nice theory :)Zankou 22:36, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

well the elves could know his true name and they just dont want to tell anyone because they're in a secret alliance with galbatorix. stupid theory i know, no need to tell me, but i'm just putting ideas out there.

Sourcing Status

Because of the regular problems with speculation being inserted to this article, I’ve done some work with the citations. I’ve improved and confirmed the ones I could, and marked other information as lacking a citation. Citations for the notes so marked should be provided, or they will be removed from the article.--Fyre2387 ^{(talk • contribs)} 21:42, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

For those that don't seem to understand how this works, two things: first, don't just add random things and think you can get away with it with a cite needed tag. Secondly, don't remove the {{fact}} tag unless you actually add a citation.--Fyre2387 ^{(talk • contribs)} 04:41, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

release date

Does anyone out there have any clue when the book is scheduled to be released?

No. Christopher Paolini hasn't announced anything yet. When he does announce it, however, I'm going to speculate that it'll be on this page within half a second of him saying it. Demosthenes 1 01:13, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

I hear sometime this year (2007)

Katrina or Elva as Rider

I was surfing the net for information on book 3 and I found this site http://forum.eragonsite.com/index.php?board=4.0, even though most of the stuff on that site is less than reliable I couldn't help wondering if the green dragon rider isn't Arya as most people assume, even though Arya is a Mary-Sue. I think her not being the next Rider would be a dreadful mistake on Christoper Paloni's part as Arya is a elf with experience in fighting and magic and also if Saphira falls in love with the Green Dragon that would make Eragon possibly fall in love with the other rider, It would be illogical if the rider was Katrina (Roran's bribe) or Elva (Person who is cursed by Eragon in the ancient language)or an other female or male rider for example Roran because of those reasons.Arlika150792 11:32, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Nice theory, but nothing's been comfirmed. Wikipedia is about facts not maybes. Momoroxmysoxoff 17:56, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Sure it'd be nice if Arya was the next dragon rider and her and eragon fell in love, bla bla bla, i'm sick of her running away all the time, i like her character and i swear Eragon is going to drive her to kill herself if he proposes to her one more time. But i think elva is a more likely candidate for the next dragon rider, although if eragon fell in love with her, EW, hes like way older than her. But that curse he accidentally put on her may link her to dragons somehow.

Excerpt

There's an official excerpt of Book III in Eldest, D.E. Could somebody add that to the page? It would be really cool!

I Agree all of us who haven't got Eldest D.E. are kept in the dark about Book III chapter one59.100.208.174 14:16, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

It's not chapter ONE, it's chapter THREE and it's a real cliffhanger!

eragon the movie

it blows me away to see how horrible the eragon movie misrepresented the book. and after the unbelievable success of the harry potter and lord of the rings series from books to movies, i just knew we had another epic on our hands. i tried not to get my hopes up because i find i'm usually let down,(other than hp and lotr series) but i knew this series most likely would be put in the right hands. the directors of the movie should be ashamed of themselves and i'm sure chris paolini is disgusted at the chopped-up, horribly acted, third-rate cinematography, pathetic transformation to motion picture. way-to-go, another unbelievable movie experince is wrecked for me and everyone else who has read these books. luckily he hobbit is being made as i'm typing this. so now i have something to look forward too.

The movie simply SUCKED. They left out a lot of things and changed a lot of the places. I mean what was up with teirm being a bunch of burning trucks in a freakin swamp?! I was also really mad that they left out solemnbum. I have a feeling he is going to be a very important character in the third book and he told eragon some things that are going to be very helpful to him in the future.

Theories on Murtagh and Eragon

Most of you probably think murtagh is what like 18. Well i think that could be wrong. You see Brom said that he had killed Morzan 20 years ago. Then Murtagh later mentioned that he had gotten the scar on his back at the age of three from his father, Morzan. Now im no math genius here but that would mean Murtagh would have to be at least 23. But another point is that Murtagh said he escaped from galbatorix on his 18th birthday. I dont think it mentioned how long it has been since he escape. So if he had escaped recently that would mean that Morzan had to have been killed fifteen years ago at the most, which means Brom lied and he was probably hiding something. thats just a theory i was working on, but i think one of them has to be true im just not sure which one. either way people are hiding something important. I would really like to hear what you guys have to think about this.

dude morzon cant be eragons dad because if u read the sinopsis of eragon in eldest it says brom killed morzon 20 years ago and ummm hate to break it to u eragons not 20 i think broms erogons dad because slen eragons mom went away for a wile where she met brom got pregnet had her baby in cravahall and left that would exsplane why brom stayed there the whole time too

yea but i think it said that murtagh escaped on his last birthday when he turned 18 so that would mean moarzan would have to have been killed 15 years ago. so morzan could be eragons father techniacally if this is true but i still dont think he is.

Similarities to Other Books

THis trilogy contains many similarities to plot, characters, and themes from the Lord of the rings and the original star wars trilogy.

Lord Of The Rings resemblances

• Ra'zac-Nazgûl(Black Riders)
• Lethrblaka-Fellbeast(steeds of black riders)
• Eragon-very similar to Aragorn(name)<<<name similarities dont count. hes more like frodo, the person who no one thought could save the world but did. (well we hope eragons like that)
• Alagaësia-Middle-Earth
• Domia abr Wyrda-Bilbo's Translations from the Elvish(Silmarillion)
• Alalea-Aman
• Brom-Gandalf
• Murtagh-Saruman?
• Galbatorix-Sauron
• Roran and Katrina-Luthien and Beren
• Carvahall attacked-The Shire

Star wars

• Brom-Kenobi
• Eragon-Luke
• Oromis-Yoda
• Galbatorix-Palpatine
• Murtagh-Han Solo/Calrissian/Darth Vader
• Tatooine-Palancar Valley
• Inheritance plot-Star wars plot

Inferences ABOUT WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN IN THIRD BOOK(BASED ON TOLKIEN AND STAR WARS):

• Eragon will go to Oromis immediately.
• Oromis (and Glaedr?) dies.
• Brom's soul then visits Eragon.
• Eragon goes back, finds Roran, and attacks Helgrind.
• He defeats the Ra'zac and rescues Katrina.
• At some point, acity will be sieged by Galbatorix, and the elves ride to its aid.
• A final battle will be staged at Uru'Baen.
• Murtagh saves Eragon by killing Galbatorix.
• The Varden try to lure out the imperial army to help Eragon.
• Eragon leaves Alagaesia for Alalea.
• Roran becomes king of alagaesia.

Please note that these speculations are inferred only from star wars and Tolkien writings, and I put these here only because i have evidence from only tolkien and star wars.

Release date, anyone??

Man I'm sick of waiting for this. Any news on its release date??