Talk:Advance Wars 1+2: Re-Boot Camp

Frequent deletions

Hello, I've noticed that this page has been repeatedly deleted by users.

As it stands, I do not believe this page should be deleted. Even if this an upcoming game, many of such games have seperate Wikipedia pages.

Instead of moving the page to drafting, I would prefer updating and improving the current wiki page. Fah112778 (talk) 11:24, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure @Scope creep is misinterpreting WP:FUTURE in this revert. That guideline says "In forward-looking articles about unreleased products, such as films and games, take special care to avoid advertising and unverified claims (for films, see WP:NFF)" which pretty clearly implies that articles about future films and games aren't flat-out forbidden. I think the more applicable guidance is in the essays at WP:TOOSOON and WP:Planned films, though neither give direct guidance for video games.

I did find some additional coverage (Game Informer and Kotaku articles on the E3 announcement and Game Informer and Kotaku articles on the delay), though it doesn't add too much. These sources, along with the IGN and Polygon ones in the article, are all listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Sources § Reliable sources. --Pokechu22 (talk) 19:49, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia has strict policies on this, and because they're is a predominance of future article, it is assumed that it is ok. Its not. I saw an article I reviewed in NPP about three weeks ago, the product wasn't coming out until October 2023, which is entireley unacceptable. The only reason I hear these increasinly strident calls is due to this being an likely undeclared paid editor, who is desperate to get the article into mainspace. They're desperate to promote it. Don't move back!! I can happly move it from draft if you want to work on it. scope_creep^Talk 20:08, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Please point out a specific policy that says that; it doesn't seem like WP:FUTURE does per my quote above. Also remember to assume good faith - wanting an article on the most recent entry in a series which has been inactive for over a decade does not imply that one is a paid editor; they can just be a fan of the series. (I myself don't have a direct opinion on a draft versus a mainspace entry.) --Pokechu22 (talk) 20:18, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

That is not reason for it. The editor could have asked to move it to Draft, or a sandbox and worked on it there for a couple of weeks until the gap was closes. But they've been complaining about it. I see you restored the redirect as well. It has already been in draft and redirect has been restored four times since it was drafted on the 24 June. scope_creep^Talk 20:43, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

@Fah112778: Can you wait for four weeks until the game is out? scope_creep^Talk 20:52, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

@scope creep, I'd to assert that I'm no shill. This is the first Advance Wars game in the last 13 years, a video game series that I first played almost 20 years ago and still enjoy today.

I worked on this first step toward this page in good faith; any additional improvement would surely be welcome. If you believe that such work would be better of in a draft, fine by me.

But I still fail to understand your insistence on deleting this page in particular while many similar wiki pages regarding video games remain.

If you want to maintain your stance regarding future games or works of art, try deleting those pages and see what happens. I predict several pointless edit wars.

But if your main reason for deleting the article is due to its lack of quality or a similar reason, then I suggest pointing out that it is a stub article somewhere while we, as the community, work on making it better.

Wikipedia is an excellent source regarding almost anything and I believe this article is in line with that principle. Fah112778 (talk) 22:00, 18 November 2021 (UTC)