Talk:Hackerspace

Makerspace vs Hackerspace on Google Trends

Please note that as of August 2017, Google Trends shows that the keyword Makerspace has far exceeded the frequency of Hackerspace by 300%, beginning in 2014.

This could be a determining factor to distinguish Hackerspace from Makerspace. The term Makerspace would benefit from its own entry due to its increased use, popularity, and common distinction for serving a broader purpose, separate from a Hackerspace. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mark R. Havens (talk • contribs) 21:33, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia follows trhe usage in reliable sources not in general google searches or other general searches which may not be reliable. If recent reliable sources largely use the term "Makerspace " then so should Wikipedida, but not if RSs still prefer "Hackerspace". If the two terms have come to have different meanings as used by reliable sources, they should perhaps have separate articles, or separate sections in a single article. See also WP:COMMONNAME DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 23:10, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

• Any such measurement would have to look at Hackspace too. Although the 300% figure is a proportion, the volumes are so low as to be far from robust. It seems that Makerspace dominates in the US, but the UK favours Hackspace. Andy Dingley (talk) 23:18, 5 December 2019 (UTC)

Naomi Wu Image

I believe the image of Naomi Wu in this article should be considered for removal. It's an appropriate image for her own personal page, (and arguably for the Women in STEM page) where it also appears. However, it doesn't have anything to do with Hackerspaces, even if using her workshop as a facsimile for a hackerspace is the purpose of the image the focus of the image is not on the space itself. Captainfixalot (talk) 11:28, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

Merger proposal: Fab lab into Hackerspace

I propose merging Fab lab into Hackerspace since they seem to be very overlapping topics. Fab lab is already listed in the Hackerspace article as a variety, and has its own section there. Sauer202 (talk) 16:40, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

I'd strongly insist against that proposal. There are important differences between the three terms: Hackerspace: Strong emphasis on IT and the digital world. Makerspace: Machine / workshop centered space. - "Hackerspace" for the physical world. FabLab: Makerspace with strong emphasis on sharing of knowledge. Tasso.Mulzer (talk) 11:24, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

Oppose a merge and would agree with Tasso.Mulzer about the importance of keeping these three subjects very distinctly clear and as their own separate articles. They could probably all use a lot of work and expansion, but no need to merge them together. Cheers! 98.155.8.5 (talk) 22:44, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

Merger proposal: Library makerspace into Hackerspace

I propose merging Library makerspace into Hackerspace since they seem to be very overlapping topics, and content seems duplicate about what one can do on a makerspace. A makerspace is a makerspace, and I think whether it is part of a library or not does not warrant a separate article. In my own experience, there are many examples of makerspaces being co-located with a library, but it is still "just" a makerspace. I suggest what is unique about makerspaces in regards to being co-located with libraries can be incorporated in the Hackerspace article, for example as a mention in the sections #Facilities or #Variations. Sauer202 (talk) 08:43, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

Requested move 15 October 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: no consensus. (closed by non-admin page mover) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 17:43, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

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Hackerspace → Makerspace – Per the above discussion "A Hackerspace is not a Makerspace", a hackerspace can be regarded as a subset of makerspace"

Makerspace is broader, since it both refers to physical and digital fabrication, while hacking seems more focused on programming (whether focused on digital fabrication or programming workarounds).

Hacking can also be more ambiguous, since its etymology can have various meanings, for example:

• Hack (computer science), an inelegant but effective solution to a computing problem
• Hack (computer security), to break into computers and computer networks
• Hacker, a computer expert with advanced technical knowledge
• Hacker culture, activity within the computer programmer subculture
• Cybercrime, which involves security hacking

And many more. As seen, in the contect of hackerspaces, however, I believe the term "hacking" is often meant in the positive meanings "to be creative", or "to be good at something", or "to make something work", rather than the malicious, secretive or mystical meanings sometimes associatied with the word hacking.

Therefore, due to Makerspace being a broader and clearer term, I think it would be more fitting to have Makerspace as the main title of this page discussing these two closely related topics, since digital facbrication is a subset of what can be done at a makerspace. A makerspace can be suited for creative building or construction of anything (digital, physical, et cetera). Sauer202 (talk) 09:03, 15 October 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 19:39, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

Oppose the move. I think that it would be better to split this page into Makerspace and Hackerspace. Gusfriend (talk) 02:14, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

Oppose per Gusfriend. Seems like they're two different topics.  — Amakuru (talk) 10:33, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Split into two articles instead? — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 19:39, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

In regards to the option of splitting into two different articles, what is the difference between a hackerspace and a makerspace? As I have laid out above, hackerspace seems to be a subtype of makerspace (or even the same thing). Can you please lay out how you view them as different? P.s. The article about Life hack indicates once again that "hacking" can be used in the meaning to fix something, mend, or making a workaround. I don't see the big difference to a makerspace where one can make or fix stuff. Sauer202 (talk) 11:17, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.