User talk:Cheffounet

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Speedy deletion nomination of Social BPM

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Please work on the article in your sandbox instead of main article space. Once it is fleshed out with appropriate citations and no copyright violations, you can move it to main article space. ~Amatulić (talk) 21:35, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Also, you can reply here or on my talk page. Don't create sub-pages in other people's user spaces if you want to communicate.

The topic of your article probably merits inclusion in Wikipedia, it's just that we are really strict about copyright violations, which yours was, in spite of your stated intent to improve it. You can continue working on your userspace version, User:Cheffounet/Social BPM, at your leisure without worrying about someone coming along and deleting it. If you do that, drop me a note when you think it's ready and I'll gladly review it. ~Amatulić (talk) 23:34, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Amatulić,

The article on Social BPM is now ready for review. Hope everything is conform to Wikipedia policy.

Best Regards

Thierry Cheffounet (talk) 09:38, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It isn't quite ready yet. See Wikipedia:Articles with a single source. Even the single source you cite is a dead link; you need to fix that. ~Amatulić (talk) 16:54, 16 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It would be magic to publish the Social BPM article exactly on the day when Cuba has lifted the travel ban!

http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/news/international/Cuba_lifting_hated_travel_restrictions.html?cid=33742416 Cheffounet (talk) 07:36, 17 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia! France3470 (talk) 03:40, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia's ideals are about to die.

http://www.salon.com/2012/10/23/is_wikipedia_going_commercial/

But utopian ideals often become diluted when put into practice on a large scale and inevitably fail.

-> like in business a large scale needs a workflow as a backbone

To bring Wikipedia back to an oasis from commercialization, it’s not the commissioned editors that should be given attention, but rather the reasons for their success — abrasive discussions, convoluted guidelines, impersonal communication, and so on. In other words, people would be much less likely to pay for an edit if learning the ways of Wiki-world was a painless task. Wikipedians may be their own worst enemy; if they can’t learn to get along, the empire they’ve created may deteriorate.

-> publishers of new posts need a Social BPM workflow explaining them on a more friendly manner how to prepare their posts

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Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia! Jethro B 18:37, 28 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Wikipedia idea is about to die with the kind support of the editors refusing innovation

Hello!

The Wikipedia idea is about to die.

http://www.salon.com/2012/10/23/is_wikipedia_going_commercial/

Your old fashioned bureaucratic editing language herited from the last century might be useful to tell about the Mormons but not to carry innovative ideas.

On one hand one is not allowed to copy excerpts from books or articles. On the other hand one needs to respect existing sources. Innovation killed.

What do you think would have been Moise's reaction if Wikipedia would have asked him to document his sources to write the 10 commandments?

My sources here for Social BPM are wisdom, knowledge, experience, existing articles, and INSPIRATION.

If it helps I can enter INSPIRATION in the sources.

Social BPM is a powerful concept that could be useful for many applications.

If I manage to deliver an european concept of Social Media avoiding the pitfalls of Facebook with suicides and turmoil will you approve my article?

I will not change one word now. I can wait until Wikipedia goes commercial.

Best Regards

Cheffounet (talk) 02:28, 29 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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I, Jethrobot ^{drop me a line} (note: not a bot!) 02:34, 29 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Social BPM in Action

Great feedback, many thanks!

Firstly, I can only apologize for my compulsive behaviour, here the explanation http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acting_out (indeed this is my first and only article so far on Wikipedia as a translation, got to grips with your strange logic of lacking sources although I did clearly refer to the english version and explained it was a 1:1 translation)

Secondly, thanks for your comments regarding the difficulty to edit on Wikipedia. The Jews have managed to keep their religion intact over thousands of years. Not sure if despite or thanks to persecution. Your religion is a bit too complicated for catholics to understand. Same complexity as editing a Wikipedia article. Same values of truth and wisdom. Maybe the Jews have experimented to launch a 'pagan catholic' flavour . In fact I am watching the jewish religion television on Sunday mornings. So yes, with values and money behind the Wikipedia concept it will never be commercial. Great!

Here my theory about the catholic religion and how the Mormons are trying to fix it: http://46.4.200.140/webcentral/Colt?objid=312 ID : coltRoger Password : coltRoger12 Clck on the pictures to activate linked documents

The article on Cuba cigar readers does not mention Social BPM simply because Cuba has been ahead of our time. Furthermore this has been a real INSPIRATION for me.

The scholarly article does not include statistics etc... but this is a tribut to the Italians who seem to do some real good work here. Anyway, these Italians have already been mentioned in books, slides etc... so no worries if you would like me to delete this reference.

No worries if you would like me to delete the slides.

My intention was to buy the books, read them and if needed adapt my post.

In the meantime I am doing something more useful for mankind. Driving the creation and roll out of an european Content Management system avoiding the pitfalls of Facebook (cyber-mobbing, addiction, suicide) but leveraging the useful technical capabilities like sharing pictures remotely permission-based and content fully under the control of the creator with nothing exposed on the web. Cheffounet (talk) 10:40, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. DGG ( talk ) 17:28, 13 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]