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Melon...not a reliable source?

I noticed that you keep reverting stuff when it is referenced from the Korean online streaming platform Melon music. I don't understand it cause it is a fairly big streaming site that is pretty major when Korean music industry is concerned, so why is it unreliable? I wanna hear your thoughts on this.Waltzingmogumogupeach (talk) 01:45, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

Yes, not a reliable source other than for crediting otherwise it shouldn't be used for anything else likewise for every other music streaming services per MOS:ALBUM and WP:VENDOR. In addition, don't include partial composition for selected tracks only which was also the reason I reverted it, if there are no secondary reliable news sources for all tracks then don't include it, we are not not an indiscriminate collection of information nor a newspaper. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 02:04, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

Source

Hello. You have removed my changes with message that there is no source for the information, but the album was already mentioned and news article was in the reference list before my change, thus I did not add any additional reference. There is no Wikipedia page for the album yet, so I cannot make reference on it as it was done on previous releases. Let me know what type of reference you want so I can add it SunshineKSH (talk) 16:43, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

@SunshineKSH I had manually restored it after re-verifying it's sourced in the article, your edit was reverted not mainly due to lack of inline source but also due to formatting issues and also introducing inconsistency formatting to the article. An advice for you as a newcomer, you should test out your editing in your personal sandbox or WP:SANDBOX first to get yourself familiarise before editing any article, for copyediting, not much self-training is required however adding tables requires some training, you can read more about adding tables correctly by reading Help:Table. I had also added a Welcome menu in your talkpage, please take your time to read though the content by clicking every single links. Should you have any further questions on how to edit correctly without making mistakes such formatting issues, please ask them at the Teahouse instead where you would get a faster response. Happy editing! — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 17:03, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

Awards

Can I ask why awards cannot be listed by the time they were announced instead of their name? It is making big confusion to many fans, and we wanted to correct that if possible, so everyone can clearly see what happened when. Also, even if the alphabetical order mattered, the new added awards were totally removed when they had all necessary intonation and formatted as previous ones. SunshineKSH (talk) 21:50, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

@SunshineKSH Awards has always been arranged in alphabetical order all the while, it's the same for other Korean's artists. You write for general readers not exclusive for fans, if you're here for such then read WP:FANCRUFT. It was removed because I reverted it as you changed the arrangement in the same edit, unfortunately you have to add it back again without screwing up the arrangement. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 02:22, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

Edit request

Hello, BLACKPINK has won Global Artist in South America at Hanteo Awards today. Can you add it in you list? I will put the source below for your reference. Thanks a lot

https://twitter.com/Hanteo_HMAs/status/1624364856592994304?t=vdUX24rZE5whxbBBD_e_OQ&s=19 Inyourarea123 (talk) 12:42, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

@Inyourarea123 Do it yourself instead, why bothered publishing your edit when the infobox clearly has hidden comments in place warning against unsourced editing, which I doubt you did read them or did read it but pretended to WP:IDHT instead. And don't come and bs me that you can't edit the article, the article currently isn't protected nor is there such things as section protection, otherwise you wouldn't be able to published your unsourced editing, so do it yourself otherwise don't edit at all. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 12:53, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

I already added it on the main box. I saw that you added the award in the list but not in the main box Inyourarea123 (talk) 13:31, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

@Inyourarea123 If your English is bad and cannot understand what editors are communicating to you then you shouldn't be here per WP:CIR. The notes in the infobox clearly stated that any awards added in the infobox must exists in the main table and also be sourced reliably, of which you clearly and evidently failed to do so with this edit. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 13:38, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

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Thank you for editing and creating many articles on Korea Lightoil (talk) 04:33, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
@Lightoil Thanks a lot, happy editing! — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 04:58, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

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Clarification in Inserting Guest Appearances

Hello! I saw the reason why my edit was removed. But are guess apperances not meant to be counted? Not sure about this. Maybe we should put it especially for those who don't know? Shadyph (talk) 16:02, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

@Shadyph I'm not unsure which edit(s) nor which article(s) you were referring to. Regardless those details ain't important, as per consensus at WT:KO (dig through the archives), no guesting and/or one-time appearances for television shows (regardless of type) are allowed for inclusion for articles within the scope of WikiProject Korea regardless of the subject's occupation(s). This consensus doesn't affects cameo appearances for television series/dramas, of course provided it's sourced reliably per WP:BURDEN in turn WP:VERIFY. In short, only television shows' roles that are of permanent cast member, permanent host/MC, and contestant are allowed for inclusion, similarly provided it's sourced reliably per WP:VERIFY. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 16:24, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

MOS:TVCAST

Hi @Paper9oll! I just want to ask about section headers like "People related to...". I have edited a Filipino drama article and put these type of headers, however, my edits were reverted saying that we shouldn't put such headers according to MOS:TVCAST. May I ask what is your take in this? - jampol 08:39, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

@Jpmagabo9 It does looks like an improvement to me, however I couldn't find where exactly that edit you made had violated MOS:TVCAST, maybe it just isn't established format for Filipino-related articles (I'm not sure as I don't edit in that area, just my thoughts) hence those "regulars" see it as "alien formatting" hence they anyhow quoted the MOS for that you would have to resolve it with those "regulars" instead, just don't WP:EDITWAR and/or violate WP:3RR will do even if you're frustrated if their answers. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 09:00, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
Thank you so much! I'll take note of these. - jampol 09:06, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
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