User talk:TUF-KAT/archive 8

A nice and shiny barnstar!

A nice and shiny barnstar for your exceptional edit here: [1]. Cheers! --HappyCamper 01:55, 21 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for telling me the little story about the bookstore and that edit. If you like, swap the picture with this one so it looks better on your front page. :-) I think the other one has a higher resolution. --HappyCamper 03:57, 21 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

User Categorization

Hello! We are working on a new system that will categorize the users. Please take a moment to move your user page into the category Category:Wikipedians in Virginia and removing your name from the Wikipedia:Wikipedians/Virginia page.

To add your name to the category, please use the tag [[Category:Wikipedians in Viginia|TUF-KAT]] to sort yourself correctly.

--skraz (talk) 01:54, 22 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Template:LedZeppelin

I'm recommending your Led Zeppelin template for deletion. Nice but too redunant, plus double standards regarding the existence of some templates over others has been brought up. Cjmarsicano 06:19, 22 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

American popular music

I just saw your rewrite of American popular music and the song clips you added to it. There's nothing before the section on jazz, though, so I wondered if you think a fair-use clip from something earlier would be a good addition. I've got a couple of CDs of recreations of minstrel show music that were put out by music historians. Let me know if you'd like a clip from one of these added; this is something I'd planned to do for minstrel show and blackface anyway. BrianSmithson 18:52, 22 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, which do you think would be best?

"De Boatman's Dance", credited to Daniel D. Emmett. Well played and includes music and lyrics, but it's not too well known today.
"Old Dan Tucker", by Daniel D. Emmett. Well known song, but poorly performed. Lyrics and instruments.
"Zip Coon", by Thomas Birch. Well known song, and my recording of it is spirited and well played, but it's instrumental only.

I also have recordings from a Civil War reenactor band; these are also billed as historically accurate, though they are performed not as stage numbers but as a wartime band might perform them in camp. If this sounds like a good option, there are all sorts of songs to choose from, all well played. BrianSmithson 02:24, 23 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I uploaded a clip from "Old Folks at Home" by the Civil War re-enactors. It's short, but I didn't want to flout fair use. I decided on this one over "Old Dan Tucker" since the latter doesn't have the plantation/racist lyrics, and I don't want us to be accused of trying to whitewash the period's music. "Old Folks" is a nice tune, well known, but it also includes material that is objectionable today. (Incidentally, a couple of the clips on the page are probably too long -- one is over a minute and a half, and another a minute or so.) BrianSmithson 02:00, 24 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

MDAC

Heya, thanks for the feedback... any chance of helping with the general copyedit? I'm not the best with this stuff these days... :( 203.134.166.99 03:19, 23 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It's cool... anything that seems to be an issue, edit it anyway and I'll keep an eye on the change and modify if necessary. I'm thinking that the history section is somewhat crufty... any ideas on how resolve this? - 203.134.166.99 03:37, 23 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Heya, me again :-) I've done a large copyedit on the MDAC article, only not sure if I've missed anything. Is it better now? - 203.134.166.99 07:51, 26 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks mate! Great to see collaboration is still live and well in this place :-) 203.134.166.99 03:16, 30 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Crossed footnotes at Blues

Hi. I think you added the footnotes to Blues. The first 2 footnotes are crossed ie 1 goes to 2 and 2 goes to 1. I'm not sure whether the footnotes should be reversed or the links swapped. Nurg 10:10, 24 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Your message

Hi, I got your message and left comments on that article. OmegaWikipedia 13:30, 24 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Spoo!

Spoo has just been featured! Thanks for your support! --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 05:13, 25 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hellogoodbye

Does this group fit the WP:MUSIC guidelines? You seem to be pretty active in this area, so I thought I'd check with you. Joyous (talk) 20:16, 25 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Al-Sirât

Could you delete Talk:Al-Sirât? It's one comment by a vandal user. I contacted two other admins about this, but neither have acted nor commented in response to my request. freestylefrappe 21:48, 27 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I just don't see a point in its existence. Zero content=Zero purpose. "Mamaddun was a pretty offensive guy"...why shouldnt it be deleted? Blanking will retain the original message. freestylefrappe 23:13, 27 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Footnote 3

I used Footnote 3 it on Fauna of Australia, you may also want to consider just using innotes for repeated references to one source. --nixie 01:18, 29 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Album infobox template

There is a discussion going on at Template talk:Album infobox about changing the Album length section to correspond to the WP:MoS. Since you have been a regular contributor the Album project where it is used, I thought that I would drop you a note to look there for the discussion. Jkelly 00:20, 30 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Me again. I thought that you might be interested in Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_comment/Pop_music_issues. On the Talk page I made some comments on the Project as a whole that I would very much like your input upon. Jkelly 01:59, 21 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I just discovered two seperate articles on "The Star-Spangled Banner"

Someone wrote one for Whitney Houtson's version ("The Star Spangled Banner (Whitney Houston song)"), which I listed on AfD. We really need to get this under control; I think this is the point where, if we want this project to look like a respectable encyclopedia and not a free-hosted fansite, we need ot put our feet down and do something about it. --FuriousFreddy 02:16, 30 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

About that guideline

Tuf-Kat, considering this is a proposed guideline, does Freddy have the right to list the articles for deletion? When this policy gets passed, then of course do that, but Freddy was premature and shouldnt have done that until the policy got passed. Also, O Holy Night was already listed for deletion, but survived. So it really shouldnt be listed again. Can we take it off? OmegaWikipedia 05:08, 30 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

What is considered good faith? So articles can be nominated again? So if these articles survive the vote, Freddy will keep nominating them until he gets what he wants? OmegaWikipedia 12:23, 30 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

"And Pilate washed his hands before the crowd"

...or however the verse goes.

I completely give up on trying to reign in the pop diva fans' work; I shouldn't be wasting all my time trying to discuss something with someone who isn't listening. For now, I'm just going to work on helping establish the notablility guidelines asa preventive tool This isn't about me wanting things "my way" (I think you understand that); it's about trying to make things consistent and keeping the music side of things as fre as possible of fangush (<--that article might need to be deleted or redirected. I found it when visiting Wikipedia:Fancruft, but boy is it on-the-level). --FuriousFreddy 00:24, 2 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Metal Changes

I would just like to draw your attention to my comments on Talk:Heavy metal music and hopefully get your blessing on some of the changes I plan on carrying out (with the advantage of knowledge gained from years of listening to real metal and participating in online metal communities, knowledge that people here by and large seem to be lacking)... I apologize if this is considered bad protocol (I'm new here), but you seemed like one of the more active posters on the talk page and I'm eager to begin on the extensive revisions that need to be made. First off, I plan to change header of the taxobox to Metal music (both because the name is less ambiguous and because the information is more accurate and comprehensive) now or when I'm closer to finished working on it. Again, sorry if I'm stepping on anyone's toes or if this is the wrong place to bring this up, in which case I hope you can direct me to an appropriate forum to proffer my suggestions that gets responses a little more frequently than the talk page.67.4.153.153 05:36, 2 October 2005 (UTC)Alex[reply]

MedCom

Hello, I'm sending this message out to all users listed as inactive at WP:MC. Some of you have been on leave for quite some time, and I'm hoping one or two of you may return to active (every active editor has a case assigned). I know some of you are busy with other wikimedia stuff, like Angela Anthere and Danny, and some of you are busy with academic stuff, like MacGyverMagic and ClockworkSoul. However I still want to leave this message in the hope of perhaps getting some more of you on hand. It's by no means mandatory though, so don't worry. -Acting Chair, R e dwolf24 (talk) 01:57, 3 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Categorisating musicians

I need to ask someone, and as you created Category:Musicians by instrument long ago... how should one think, do you say, about people who play more than one instrument? Should they be listen for every instrument they play, or just the most important one? One of my current examples is Arto Järvelä - mainly a fiddler, but also plays mandolin (esp. mandola) and nyckelharpa on stage and on record. Regarding him playing kantele, I only read, never heard him playing it. He also does sing a little bit, but I wouldn't categorise him as a singer - his main field is as an instrumentalist, and his homepage doesn't even mention his little singing, his focus is the instrumentalist's. If I went for my gut feeling, I would choose the happy inbetween and categorise him as fiddler, mandolinist and nyckelharpist but ignore the kantele and vocals.

Any thoughts? Would you say there is a standard? / Habj 12:48, 3 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The easy way out would be to include everything... esp. when trying to categorise articles that other people have written. I agree that is not so good as a general method, though. / Habj 00:24, 6 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Belgium

I have resubmitted Belgium for peer review. Do you think the objections you gave the last time it was FAC have been correctly addressed? If no, don't hesitate to let me know. Vb 16:07, 6 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

oops!

Sorry about the ScudLee RfA edit. I was looking at current ones and at the same time looking at old rejected ones to see what criteria different people used. I was watching a baseball game too. I guess I got confused. --Rogerd 01:04, 7 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Wikimusic

Hi, TUF-KAT, I saw you're interested in (classical) music. Maybe you would like to talk about the possible creating of a Wikimusic? There are no real plans right now, but we would like your imput! Please add you comment at this page, and put your name on the list if you want to stay informed. If you would want to, you can add your email as well. In front of you reaction I thank you for your enthousiasm. If you know someone who might be interested, don't hesitate, and give him/her the link! (http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/gebruiker:Effeietsanders/project:Wikimusic), even if they are not active on wikipedia. Spread the word!!! effeietsanders 14:06, 9 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Music of Greenland

thanks tuf-kat for your message :-) greetz, oscar 09:39, 10 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your support on my RfA!

Thanks for your support of my adminship!! I was surprised at the turnout and support I got! If you ever have any issues with any of my actions, please notify me on my talk page! Thanks again! Special thanks for FA/PR patrol! Ryan Norton ^{T | @ | C} 03:55, 13 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The History of the Medcom

Hey TUF-KAT... I've been working on Wikipedia:Mediation Committee/Old nominations/Successful and I couldn't find any nomination of yours of any sort. Strange as you were the chair at one point! Also, you've only edited WP:MC about three times... do you know where the email is appointing you or the successful nomination? Thanks... R e dwolf24 (talk—How's my driving?) 02:43, 14 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

wikipedians

Hello, i saw you made contributions to the bong page (or its talk page, and i invite you to read this and add your name or something else if you want. You may also want to put your name here: category:wikipedians by fields of interest under drugs/drug addiction. cheers! --Ballchef 13:15, 15 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Minstrel image

Hi, TK. I wondered if you had any more information on the image displayed here. Did the source you got it from give any idea who these minstrels might be? Maybe a troupe name? Thanks! BrianSmithson 17:19, 21 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Peer review?

I've seen the huge amount of work you're done on music articles. I've put up a request for peer review on an article to which I've made some major revisions, and even if it's not exactly your style I'd appreciate your taking a look and giving some feedback. Also, feel free to refer any other editors you think would be interested in posting an opinion. Thanks!

--keepsleeping say what 21:28, 25 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject World music

Its a shame this project is "inactive." I've had questions in the past couple months that a forum like this project would have helped with. Has this project been absorbed (for instance by WikiProject music genres or by WikiProject music)? What's a music fan to do? Smmurphy 11:36, 1 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I must chime in as well, if things ever get rolling again I'd love to help. - AKeen 08:27, 9 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

My RFA

Thank you very much for supporting my rather contentious request for adminship, but now that I've been promoted, I'd like to do a little dance here *DANCES*. If you have any specific issues/problems with me, please feel free to state them on my talk page so that I can work to prevent them in the future, and thanks once again! ALKIVAR™ 07:53, 8 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of victims of the American Civil War

Could you please revisit the discussion, read my comments there and consider changing your vote?

I think two reasons used to delete this are faulty:

This list includes information which would be lost if categorized. Categories cannot list the date and manner of death in a organized manner as lists do. Categorizing would lose the info.
Wikipedia is not a memorial doesn't apply as that rule is for people who do not deserve an article. These people played major roles in the American Civil War and therefore do not fall under the memorial clause of WP:NOT. They already have articles, and lists listing closely related people should not be deleted because they happen to be dead.

Thanks for your attention. - Mgm|^(talk) 10:09, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

FARC

Tuf-Kat when you nominate an article as a featured article removal candidate please remember to add {{farc}} to its talk page. Cedars 04:30, 20 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Children of Bodom Peer Review request

Hello, TUF-KAT. I am currently attempting to get an article on a metal band to featured status, and a first effort I have put the article on Children of Bodom (which has been my project for quite a while) up for Peer Review. The request can be found at Wikipedia:Peer review/Children of Bodom/archive1. Any feedback you might have is appreciated. Regards, --Sn0wflake 03:09, 21 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Blues

You have been a big editor of the Blues article. I think you are the one who paid that much attention to references and footnotes. I think a robot came and throw them all over. Would you mind checking whether they are still well referenced. By the way, I have tried to improve this article particularly with respect to its comprehensiveness. However my English is far from brilliant and I still think the article is a bit lengthy. Do you think one could promote this article to the featured status. I would appreciate your mind about this. Thanks Vb 09:45, 22 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/Hollaback_Girl

I noticed that you cast a vote on the FA nomination for Hollaback Girl, and you don't seem to have been notified on your Talk page that User:Raul654 has cleared and restarted the nomination. If you want to recast your vote, you should do so at the article's new FA page. --keepsleeping say what 04:28, 25 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Phishing

Hello,

I saw you moved phishing to the featured article review, but then said it appeared to be taken care of and decided not to put it into the f.a.r. I want to point out that the issue has not been taken care of. the image needed for that article is a pd image that can be used to identify phishing so the article can be placed on the front page. may you please put the discussion into the f.a.r. -- ZeWrestler ^Talk 02:54, 26 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I was looking at some of the images proposed in the original discussion. I was thinking maybe a fish hook with an '@' sign at the end. Similar to the lines of this picture [[2] only with the '@' instead of the envelope. Something along the lines of the following image if we could get someone to create a pd version of it. this or this. If you can do anything to get an image along these lines, that'd be great. if not, i'll have to wait until finals are over before I could make something. --ZeWrestler ^Talk 03:41, 26 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

You have a lot of barnstars

Wondered if you'd come across Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2005/Candidate statements? Just thought it might interest you...why not add your own?

List of Merit Badges

TK: I collect BSA merit badges and would like to write and article on it. Would you mind if I merge your MB list into the article? Also, I made this correction..."I edited the caption for the photo with the merit badge sash because the caption was wrong. The MB listed as "Indian Lore" is in fact "Wood Carving". The Indian Lore merit badge has a headdress on it. Rlevse 18:55, 28 November 2005 (UTC)"Rlevse 19:06, 28 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

TK-Re your response--Point taken. I'll just link your article to mine, which I should have up by this weekend (3-4 Dec 2005). Hopefully, I'll recall to let you know when I'm done. People collect everything imaginable dealing with Scouting--position patches, merit badges, OA flaps, uniforms, books, etc; it's quite a cottage industry. I have over 1000 MBs in my collection.Rlevse 14:30, 29 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The Lemmy Kilmister Public Service Award

It is with honor and all due respect that on behalf of myself and previous recipient Alf, to bestow upon you The Lemmy Kilmister Public Service Award.

This award is given in appreciation of your music related articles and editing. As a recipient, you are welcome to make suggestions and comments regarding any other editor you feel is deserving of this prestigious honor. Keep up the good work, noble editor! Hamster Sandwich 23:18, 29 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I'm here to add my thanks for your contribtions to music articles, in all the areas you cover, not only Rock 'n roll. Alf ^melmac 23:28, 29 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

PLease feel free to forward the award to those editors you have suggested. I have looked at some of the editing they have been engaged in, and I must admit, they have contributed some outstanding work! Spread the love, noble editor! See you round the wiki! Hamster Sandwich 02:44, 2 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Classic Rock

Hello. I was wondering if you would like to participate in my classic rock survey. I'm trying to find the most liked classic rock song. There is more information on my user page. Hope you participate! RENTASTRAWBERRY ^{FOR LET?} röck 02:55, 30 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Classic Rock

The list has been updated! If there are any edits you can make to get rid of red links, feel free to make them. Thanks RENTASTRAWBERRY ^{FOR LET?} röck 00:24, 1 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The Waterboys

Thanks for the compliment, and the advice. I took it, as you can see here. Jkelly 06:54, 1 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Athens Music

Here are links to some of the a capella group's websites. There is history information on them...Noteworthy, Accidentals, UGA School of Music...there are links on the school's website to it's major ensembles like the Redcoat Marching Band, etc. If you need any more info, let me know and I'll see what I can come up with. *Exeunt* Ganymead | Dialogue? 22:21, 2 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Phishing

I have created a public domain image to look like an e-mail from a phisher and placed it at the top of Phishing. Let me know if you think this satisfies the issue of not having a free-use image to illustrate the concept. Andrew Levine 04:47, 3 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Merit Badge Collecting

TK: I finished the draft of my Merit badge collecting (BSA) article. Could you look at it and let me know what you think and look it over for typos, etc? I'd also like to know if you think it has Featured Article potential. Rlevse 22:45, 3 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

See my modified article and its talk page. Thanks for the tips! Rlevse 13:55, 4 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I've submitted it for Peer Review, any suggestions would be appreciated. I hope to have it submitted for a Featured Article one day. Rlevse 14:09, 4 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

TK: I got really fast and constructive response on the Peer Review. Thanks for suggesting it. I feel the article really is really good now. I plan to leave it in PR until this weekend. Then maybe I'll submit it for FA, or is someone besides me supposed to do that? Thoughts? Rlevse 00:38, 6 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Sources for Uruguayan rock

Hello, some time ago you added a fair bit of content to Uruguayan rock. As you may be aware, we are currently trying to improve Wikipedia's accuracy and reliability by making sure articles cite the sources used to created them. Do you remember what websites, books, or other places you learnt the information that you added to Uruguayan rock? Would it be possible for you to mention them in the article? Thank you very much. - SimonP 17:36, 4 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

A & B-class articles on music, Featured articles first project

Hi,

I've been meaning to contact you regarding the Featured Articles First project- how are things going? Shanel & I have been contacting WikiProjects as part of the sister Work via WikiProjects scheme, and we are keeping track of FAs that are reported by individual WikiProjects. I realise this duplicates your work, but it may help when we come to organise the articles into a cohesive whole, as well as aiding in indexing and double-checking.

I recently left a message at WP Music, and someone there suggested I contact you directly regarding A-class articles. We are trying to find articles that are close to FA standard (A-class) or getting there (B-class) that may be suitable for publication. I would see the A-class as being OK to publish, assuming we want our encyclopaedia to be several thousand articles. The B-class are usually lacking some content/balance and often refs, but may be "usable" for a "beta testing" version of the published version (WP 0.5, or 0.8 or whatever they decide on). Can you come up with a list of A and B-class articles, as assessed by yourself? This would be a great help to us, as I expect that there are lots of music articles that meet these descriptions. Thanks, Walkerma 20:40, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Frankie Valli birthdate

Hi! Frankie Valli's birthdate, according to mainstream sources, is 1937 (i.e. The Internet Movie Database and The World Almanac. But 801greg says that he was born in 1934. He has a "mug shot" of Frankie Valli at http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/fvallimug1.html, which I suspect is not authentic. Meanwhile, this site, http://www.planetshoup.com/easy/seasons/otherquest.shtml says under "Miscellaneous" that Valli was 19 when he recorded an album with the Four Lovers in 1956. And the 1937 birthdate is more mainstream and relevant, so I think we should accept 1937 as the correct birthyear. What do you think? Marcus2 16:56, 10 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Long-ago page move question

See Talk:Me First & the Gimme Gimmes. There's a little confusion about where the page should live. Jkelly 22:15, 10 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Our ancestors

Most of us trace our musical origins to the B's, but, past the B's, everything, and I mean everything is due to The Fans, Pylon, and Vietnam. The Fans had records on db (Danny Beard = db records). Their single "True," in particular, is a fantastic distillation of half of what Athens would be (avail. on "Squares Blot Out the Sun," a db sampler). Vietnam was never recorded. The Fans split up, with Kevin Dunn remaining about the scene as a solo act (Kevin Dunn and the Tribe of Women were on db). Alfredo Villar, the singer of The Fans, went back to his day job.

The other thing is Pylon. There just are not words for how important they were/are. REM's favorite band is Pylon. The B-52's favorite band is Pylon. Everyone's favorite band was/is Pylon.

The other huge starting point is in Atlanta. The Hampton Grease Band, despite being Atlantans, was a kick off to the whole idea that we could be weird and successful. Although they claim that "Music to Eat" sold fewer albums than any in Columbia history (not true, as a Yoga instructional record undersold them), they looked successful to us because they had integrity and played and got to pay their bills that way. In particular, although that band's career was very brief, Bruce Hampton never went away. Both in The Late Bronze Age and Aquarium Rescue Unit later, as well as the various incarnations as Hampton B. Coles and Colonel Bruce Hampton, he was a magnet for musicians. Furthermore, Glenn Philips, who played guitar with the Grease Band when he was 15 years old, stuck around and continued to gig.

I'm a stinkin' expert on Athens 1980 - 1986. After that, I quit my band and wandered away to academia, but I was one of Them back then. Geogre 01:47, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Just to state what I hint: I got involved in the Athens/Atlanta "scene" late by everyone's standards (and that's always the case, no matter when you begin, "You weren't here when things were really cool"), in 1981. At that point 688 in Atlanta (a "punk" club that had openned its doors to a full week of Iggy Pop playing whenever he felt like it) and "the new 40 Watt Club" in Athens were the west and east poles of the world. Other clubs were opening nearly every week, but all of them have a small place in the History of the scene except for one: The Uptown Lounge in Athens. The reason that's important is that it began just as a sandwich shop/bar (folks would get $0.25 pitchers of beer and watch "Batman" every afternoon) that started having acts, used every penny to invest, and eventually had a stage, then bought the old Georgia Theater (capacity around 2,000). When the 40 Watt Club got moved from a large venue to a garage-sized space, Uptown Lounge was moving to the Georgia Theater (a movie theater), which allowed the scene to keep going and to actually become more profitable. (The 40 Watt was originally Pylon's practice room above the offices of the UGA newspaper, "The Red & Black." It was then a very small space down the road. Then it was a large place on the main street (Broad St.). Then rents went up, and it went back to the small space, where I think it still is. The small space can be seen in an REM video from "Green" -- the song that goes, "I will tear you/ Inside out!") Anyway, my band's album came out in 1986, and I quit the music scene soon after. At that point Pylon was "broken up" again. They would come back. They were legendary for refusing multiple record contracts back in 1980, when Gyrate came out, and they set the stage for acts being very nervous about corporations. (Hence REM's amazingly generous contract with Warner: they insisted, and they got it.) Ummm, I suppose The Police are an important feature, too, inasmuch as they gave REM their big break by having REM open for them during the Zenatta Mandatta tour (or however it's spelled), and Stuart Copland's brother ran IRS Records and signed REM. Hmmmm. Anyway, our album did well in a minor league way (sold 10,000 copies, which is huge for a tiny independent) and got on 240 radio stations (bless the colleges with no rotation schedules). (We have no Wikipedia article, although we do have an AMG entry, and that's how I'd as soon keep it.) Geogre 13:01, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Vic Chesnutt image

Hi. I was given permission to use the Vic Chesnutt image on Wikipedia from his record label. I guess that makes it copyright free. Christianjb 08:06, 12 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Gee, that's tough. I'll have to email the record company and ask them to remove all copyright.Christianjb 08:06, 12 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I just emailed his record company to ask if the copyright can be removed or if they can provide a substitute picture. I'll let you know as soon as I get a response. Thanks. Christianjb 08:06, 12 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Pictures

Ummm. Hmmm. Well, I have pictures of my own band performing that I can scan (actually, I think I have them digital already) that I can send out to PD or GFDL, but they'd be of "largely unknown by now band performing in Athens." If I can find my old 45's, there are covers that could be used (e.g. Pylon's "M-Train b/w Crazy" single) or the original REM "Radio Free Europe b/w Sitting Still" 45 on Hibtone Records. (My 45's are in storage.) Is the cover of REM's "Chronic Town" fair use? If so, that's probably the record that most exemplifies the Mitch Easter and Don Dixon-influenced "Athens sound" of the early 80's. You have a Pylon shot. I never got to see the Side Effects. I knew Ellis, but I didn't go to their reunion show(s). A cover from the movie "Athens, GA Inside and Out" might be applicable (not the best film, IMO; we all groused about who wasn't in it and, more importantly, who was in it (Barbeque Killers...those jerks...and Flat Duo Jets...grrrr! (although Flat Duo Jets were White Stripes ahead of time and with a bit less talent)). I wish the Athens, GA website licensed its photos, since there are numerous locally important features that could enliven things, like a picture of Legion Field. Legion Field is where many, many of the acts would play for next-to-free during 1979-1981 for UGA students, thereby building an audience. I don't know if there are shots of the new-old 40 Watt that are government, but those would be vital, too. Geogre 17:52, 12 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Okie doakie. I went through my old picture album, and here are some helpful pictures, sort of. I took them with an instamatic camera, so don't expect great quality, but they are functional:

Anyway, use them, if useful. Geogre 18:23, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Image galleries

You have in the past commented on Image Galleries nominated for deletion. Most galleries are nominated because the nominators feels that galleries violate WP:NOT. The William-Adolphe Bouguereau gallery has been nominated for deletion (here). A proposal to modify WP:NOT is here. Please join either or both conversations and comment as you see fit. Dsmdgold 16:20, 13 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Merit badge collecting FAC

TK: I have put this article Merit badge collecting (BSA) up as a Featured Article Candidate. Many improvements have been made this week. I thought may like to look at it again and if so inclined, vote on it. Thanks Rlevse 00:27, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

BD2412's RFA

Tuf-kat, thanks for supporting my adminship bid - I'll do my best as an admin to help make the reality of Wikipedia rise to the level of the dream! BD2412 T 03:48, 15 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Blues

Thanks for your comments on Blues. Now we need to get the article on the main page! Vb 14:36, 15 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

coke la rock-first rapper?

on his talk page you said: He is indeed a real person, an influential figure in old school hip hop and he was, IIRC, one of the Herculoids. Calling him the first rapper is a tremendous overstatement, however. Tuf-Kat 04:13, Apr 13, 2004 (UTC)

If not him, then who was the first rapper? I have read in various books that he was the first hip-hop rapper.Urthogie 16:27, 17 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Here is a citation for his being called the "very first MC":

Rap and Hip Hop: The Voice of a Generation by Sherry Ayazi-Hashjin, The Rosen Publishing Group (1999). Others can be found by searching Google Books. Smmurphy^(Talk) 17:49, 17 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Im with you on that, and heres another source: Sacha Jenkins, Elliott Wilson, Jeff Mao, Gabe Alvarez, Brent Rollins, Chairman Mao, Gabriel Alvarez (December 1999). Ego Trip's Book of Rap Lists (Paperback), 352, St. Martin's Griffin. ISBN 0312242980. Any response, TUF-KAT?--Urthogie 17:52, 17 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

help with peer review

heya, ive noticed youve done a lot of great work on music-related articles, I was wondering if you could help with the article on rapping? thanks so much. --Urthogie 20:25, 18 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

COTW: Culture of Sudan

This article is now the Collaboration of the Week! Thanks for your support. — ₀₉₁₈^BRIAN • 2005-12-18 21:34

Roy Buchanan

Hey, I was looking through Wikipedia:Harmonious editing club and recognized your name from somewhere. I must have either run into you before or seen some of your edits/comments elsewhere. I was directed to a discussion going on at the article on Roy Buchanan, and it seems to be getting a bit heated. If you think you can comment on the editing between the two parties or know of someone who may be able to help, I think it would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. -Dozenist talk 05:20, 20 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Tumbling Dice

I already have a "seal of approval" from Deltabeignet for putting up Tumbling Dice on FAC (2nd attempt). I want a second opinion from another wikipedian working on musical articles before I put it through again. I'm No Parking and I approved this message 06:40, 23 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Gettysburg Address

I think I may have addressed your suggestions & hope you can now support this article's candidacy. Thanks for your helpful input. Kaisershatner 15:51, 23 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

World music project

Thanks for including me in the project! I must say that after giving the material a cursory look I think it is a bit confusing. The articles listed, however, seem good. Badagnani 00:29, 24 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums

I now see what you meant about the compilations. I think we should set a rule that there should be no articles on any and all greatest hits albums, compilations, mixtapes (I almost quit Wikipedia when I saw that giant pot of Snoop Dogg mixtapes a month ago; I tried to ignore it for quite some time), etc...unless they include new singles. Otherwise, you're right about us not needing them (I don't even think we'd need the consolidated page -- imagine a consolidated page for, say, all of the The Beatles greatest hits albums). Or, maybe, if we don't have them deleted, we should get rid of any that are just stubs. I don't know. What do you think? --FuriousFreddy 21:02, 24 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

My RfA

Hi T-K! Merci, Choukran and Thank you for your kind support on my RfA. I also thank you for the same support you gave once to Gnawa and Gnawa music. Cheers -- Szvest 17:29, 25 December 2005 (UTC) ^{Wiki me up}[reply]

Sorry

I just wanted to say I'm sorry that the WP:MCOTW was not able to help with Veterinary medicine. Unfortunately, it's just too far out of our fields of expertise. There must be veterinarians on Wikipedia though who would be willing to tackle it! — Knowledge Seeker দ 04:51, 28 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent...good luck! — Knowledge Seeker দ 05:22, 28 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Organized Konfusion AFD

Hiya,

Just bringing to your attention that the article Organized Konfusion which you initially created has been listed on WP:AFD on the extremely spurious grounds that an article on a totally different band of the same name was previously deleted. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Organized Konfusion. Cheers! --Stormie 06:16, 28 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

RfA

Thank you for your support in my request for adminship. I was promoted with a final tally of 31/1/1. Please don't hesitate to contact me if there is anything I can assist. --BorgQueen 22:15, 28 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Merit badge types (BSA)

TK: I've taken this article through one peer review and one prior FAC. It's been resubmitted and any input you could provide on the FAC page would be greatly appreciated. Rlevse 03:35, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

TK: Thanks for your truly valuable input on this article. I see both your and Naha's points about the wiki links. So, I've removed about 6 of the ones I thought were truly unneeded (like Hunting and Citizenship). Your last comment left me unsure of your status regarding the FAC: object/neutral/support? If you're still not supporting, please advise what your concerns still are. Rlevse 17:25, 30 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Nightwish/archive1

First of all, thanks for your constructive criticism towards Nightwish. It really gave something to work with. However, I believe significant changes have been made to the article since you voted oppose. Please consider review your vote, as I think you might want to change it. Soothing R 12:45, 1 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Guabina.ogg

I was wondering what this file is. Zach ^{(Smack Back) Fair use policy} 03:26, 11 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Musicboxes

There are still a coupleissues with tese, but I'm neither knowledgeable nor a parcipant in the wikiproject to feel competent at completing them.

It would be very easy to make a meta-template for use with subst: to generate the basic music box. it'd make new musicboxes creation much easier.
The taxoboxes are not completely harmonized
- Many are missing the middle sections (genres, charts, media anthem etc.) They are coded in yellow in the new pagelisting the boxes.
- A coupleafrican ones needs to be converted. They are in orange
- A color should be chosen for the background of header cells in there: at least three different are currently in use. My meta-template suggestion could solve this problem easily.
Actual, distinct taxoboxes similar to those for US state articles should be created for Quebecand Maritimes. The current ones just don't cut it.

Circeus 19:10, 12 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Santa Cruz Music

tuf-kat, a long time ago i was trying to create a wikipedia project for local music scenes. my attempts failed, partly because of the lack of notability of the artists i wanted to include, and partly because i could not find a strong wiki elsewhere to house my project.

last year i found out about wikicities, and i started a wikicity for Santa Cruz Underground Music. i know you follow music subjects, and i just wanted to let you know of my project. i don't expect you to do anything about it - just know about it :)

cheers, Kingturtle 23:03, 15 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

History of merit badges (Boy Scouts of America)

TUF-KAT: thanks for your support vote. Your inputs were very helpful! I made a change to the intro to refect the new title. Raul654 also made it an FA today. YEAH! Rlevse 18:53, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Featured music

Hi Tuf-Kat. I've been looking at your User:TUF-KAT/Featured Music Project/Status and User:TUF-KAT/Featured Music Project and I'm glad to see a standardised approach to the criteria for what makes a featured article, and I hope your ideas get a lot of support. I wonder if you could take a look at Kylie Minogue, a current featured article which I put a lot of time into writing about a year ago. I'm worried that it has become overpopulated with gratuitous images and have suggested on Talk:Kylie Minogue what I think should stay and go. I'm hoping other people will discuss but if it doesn't attract discussion I'll boldly edit. I would be extremely grateful if you could sometime review this article the way you have several others, but I would also be interested in your views specifically regarding the images and my suggestions for culling them. I think the page is starting to look like a teen magazine despite my attempt to imbue the text with something more meaningful, and I'd like to stop it from sliding into "fanzine". I'd be interested in your opinion, if you've got some free time to look it over. thanks Rossrs 13:27, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your reply. I understand that this is probably not a person/article that you are familiar with, and I appreciate your comments. Thanks for starting the feautured article review too. This will hopefully lead to the article going back in the right direction. cheers Rossrs 01:11, 21 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

ps - I like the idea of incorporating the sound samples into the article itself and I think I know how to do it, but I'm not sure. Could you please give me an example of an article where you feel it's been done fairly successfully to clarify what you mean? thanks Rossrs 01:31, 21 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ligadua

Hi, I noticed an article you created in 2002 is up for deletion here. Just wondering if you have a source on this, because nothing shows up on google -- Astrokey44|talk 05:14, 23 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]