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Allende was not a fucking Marxist.

Your goddamned citations don't even prove the shit...and this article has zero protection? Quelle surprise... 70.29.99.120 (talk) 05:23, 5 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You're engaging in historical revisionism and denial, my foul-mouthed friend. The PS party that Allende belonged to declared themselves to be Marxist–Leninist in November 1967, nearly three years before Allende was elected president, and, not to mention that he was also aligned with the Unidad Popular movement, which included the Communist Party of Chile, which is (not surprising) also Marxist–Leninist in orientation. And of course he hosted Fidel Castro in 1971. 2601:8C:4500:4680:9165:F232:710C:168A (talk) 03:51, 5 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

To 70.29.99.120 (talk) 05:23, 5 July 2018 (UTC) of course HE was a MARXIST![reply]

You fool!

What does it matter what label someone works under? He intended to improve the lot of some people but since 1953 he should have known that people who nationalize an asset (like Mossadegh in Iran) are not tolerated. Just these days, the unsealing of so far secret papers in Australia reveals that the Australian organisation Asis operated in Santiago since 1970. The aim was described as 'destabilizing.' It was approved by the Australian government's Billy McMahon. Allende was to be removed and what label you stick is quite immaterial. Allende's descendents may have a claim against the Australian government. 2001:8003:A070:7F00:B427:80FC:E382:591E (talk) 06:32, 22 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Of course Allende was a Marxist, if only in the broadest sense. The Marxists were the anti-imperialists. They and other socialists were the ones opposing apartheid in South Africa, United States, etc. They supported the struggle for independence and self-determination in Vietnam and all over the world.

As Allende told the UN: "We had foreseen problems and foreign resistance to our carrying out our process of changes, especially in view of our nationalization of natural resources. Imperialism and its cruelty have a long and ominous history in Latin America and the dramatic and heroic experience of Cuba is still fresh. The same is the case with Peru, which has had to suffer the consequences of its decision to exercise sovereign control over its oil.

In the decade of the 70s, after so many agreements and resolutions of the international community, in which the sovereign right of every state to control its natural resources for the benefit of its people is recognized, after the adoption of international agreements on economic, social and cultural rights and the strategy of the second decade of development, which formalized those agreements, we are the victims of a new expression of imperialism -more subtle, more sneaky, and terribly effective- to block the exercise of our rights as a sovereign state."

How was Allende not a Marxist? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.253.73.146 (talk) 18:09, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The weapon

Why does both articles Salvador Allende and Death of Salvador Allende says that he shot himself with an AK-47? that weapon is obviously incorrect. Allende's weapon was a AKMS, a underfolding stock variant of the AKM.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/leopoldovictorvargas/29247078691

https://twitter.com/desde_1965/status/1330097873963413507?lang=zh-Hant ColorfulSmoke (talk) 13:10, 31 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

most sources say it was a AK-47. If you find sources saying otherwise then add them. Twitter and Flickr posts are obviously not acceptable Bedivere (talk) 15:22, 31 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nobody in Chile believes Allende killed himself

This regardless of political affiliation. Those who support Pinochet are happy that he was killed.

Why would Allende take his own life? This would only happen if Allende saw himself as a criminal. Thus suicide would be an easy way out. Of course, this plays in to the Western narrative of socialists being evil. 89.253.73.146 (talk) 17:41, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Can we just settle his manner of death once and for all???

Chilean courts repeatedly ruled his death as a suicide, after two autopsies of his body clearly showed that he died by suicide. His family had also long accepted that he died by suicide, and mentioned that he had suggested the possibility of taking himself out days before the coup. And yes, he did have an AK-47 and carried it around in several pictures. He even said in his last speech that those were his "últimas palabras". He planned to do it. ^[1]^[2]^[3] David Jiang (talk) 18:31, 3 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "Chilean court confirms Allende suicide - CNN.com". Edition.cnn.com. Retrieved 2012-09-12.
^ "BBC News - Chile inquiry confirms President Allende killed himself". Bbc.co.uk. 2011-07-19. Retrieved 2012-09-12.
^ "Admite hija de Allende suicidio de su padre". El Universal (in Spanish). Mexico City, Mexico. August 17, 2003. Archived from the original on October 14, 2012.

Alleged CIA coup backing

Describing the 1973 Chilean coup as "CIA backed" exaggerates the CIA's role. 2600:1700:19E0:36C0:152D:2060:20CE:1482 (talk) 07:16, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[1] "Chilean court confirms Allende suicide - CNN.com". Edition.cnn.com. Retrieved 2012-09-12.

[2] "BBC News - Chile inquiry confirms President Allende killed himself". Bbc.co.uk. 2011-07-19. Retrieved 2012-09-12.

[Allende-3] "Admite hija de Allende suicidio de su padre". El Universal (in Spanish). Mexico City, Mexico. August 17, 2003. Archived from the original on October 14, 2012.

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