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Tech News: 2020-41

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Recent changes

  • There is a new tool where you can see which home wiki users have in discussions on Meta. This can help show which communities are not part of the discussion on wikis where we make decisions that affect many other wikis.
  • You can now thank users for file uploads or for changing the language of a page. [1]

Problems

  • There were many errors with the new MediaWiki version last week. The new version was rolled back. Updates that should have happened last week are late. [2]
  • Everyone was logged out. This was because a user reported being logged in to someone else's account. The problem should be fixed now. [3]
  • Advanced item Many pages have JavaScript errors. You can read more and now see a list of user scripts with errors.

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 6 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 7 October. It will be on all wikis from 8 October (calendar).
  • Letters immediately after a link are shown as part of the link. For example the entire word in [[Child]]ren is linked. On Arabic wikis this works at both the start and end of a word. Previously on Arabic wikis numbers and other non-letter Unicode characters were shown as part of the link at the start of a word but not at the end. Now only Latin and Arabic letters will extend links on Arabic wikis. [4]

Future changes

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16:24, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Slip Capone

No idea how "2" was created. May have been an MW lock timing issue. I suspectyou will wanyt to look hard at the 'real' article. Capone appears notable, and the referencing is.... unusual. Fiddle Faddle 12:38, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Timtrent, I moved it because I thought it looked it could benefit from more incubation and better sources. (I could be entirely wrong). but when I did, the someone else made an edit, making the page again, albiet with only one history, so I moved it to the 2. I apologize for this. Starzoner (talk) 12:57, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
worry not. As far as I can tell, 2 was an accident of creation Fiddle Faddle 13:09, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Your thread has been archived

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Hi Starzoner! The thread you created at the Wikipedia:Teahouse, Template:Birth date and age, has been archived because there was no discussion for a few days (usually at least two days, and sometimes four or more). You can still find the archived discussion here. If you have any additional questions that weren't answered then, please feel free to create a new thread.


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Happy Halloween, Scooby-Doo!

I have moved the article back to draft space. This was moved to the draft space as a result of an AfD. Moving it back to the mainspace without any major changes to the article is against consensus found during that discussion. Please send the article to AFC submission. It says explicitly in the template on the page "Please do not restore this article to mainspace unless there has been substantial improvement to address the concerns raised in the deletion discussion." BOVINEBOY2008 09:32, 9 October 2020 (UTC)


more contented added and submitted. Bovineboy2008. Starzoner (talk) 14:19, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-42

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Problems

  • Because of the problems with the MediaWiki version two weeks ago last week's updates are also late. [6][7][8]

Changes later this week

  • Live previews didn't show the templates used in the preview if you just edited a section. This has now been fixed. You can also test CSS and JavaScript pages even if you have the live preview enabled. Previously this didn't work well. [9][10]
  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 13 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 14 October. It will be on all wikis from 15 October (calendar).

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15:23, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

List of Star Wars films for FL

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MfD nomination of Draft:The Mandalorian (film)

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Tech News: 2020-43

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Future changes

  • You will be able to read but not to edit the wikis for up to an hour on 27 October around 14:00 (UTC). It will probably be shorter than an hour. [12]
  • Advanced item In the AbuseFilter extension, the rmspecials() function will be updated soon so that it does not remove the "space" character. Wikis are advised to wrap all the uses of rmspecials() with rmwhitespace() wherever necessary to keep filters' behavior unchanged. You can use the search function on Special:AbuseFilter to locate its usage. [13]
  • Some gadgets and user-scripts use the HTML div with the ID #jump-to-nav. This div will be removed soon. Maintainers should replace these uses with either #siteSub or #mw-content-text. A list of affected scripts is at the top of phab:T265373.

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16:30, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

HBO template

Please don't add draft categories to mainspace templates. Thank you.★Trekker (talk) 09:50, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

★Trekker, I"m sorry but which page? Starzoner (talk) 12:42, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Detective Pikachu 2 (film)

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 20:17, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark 2

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 01:14, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-44

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Problems

  • You will be able to read but not to edit the wikis for up to an hour on October 27 around 14:00 (UTC). It will probably be shorter than an hour. [14]
  • Last week, links to "diffs" from mobile watchlists and recentchanges were linking to page-revisions instead of diffs. This has now been fixed. [15]

Changes later this week

  • There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Future changes

  • Since the introduction of the interface administrators user group in 2018, administrators couldn’t view the deleted history of CSS/JS pages. Now they can. [16]
  • There was a problem with the Change Tags. The software would apply the "Reverted" tag to any page actions such as page-protection changes if they came directly after a reverted edit. This has now been fixed for new edits. [17]
  • The Reply tool will be offered as an opt-in Beta Feature on most Wikipedias in November. Another announcement will be made once the date is finalized. [18]

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17:37, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-45

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Recent changes

  • You can no longer read Wikimedia wikis if your browser uses very old TLS. This is because it is a security problem for everyone. It could lead to downgrade attacks. Since October 29, 2020, users who use old TLS versions will not be able to connect to Wikimedia projects. A list of browser recommendations is available. All modern operating systems and browsers are always able to reach Wikimedia projects. [19]
  • Advanced item There is a new automatic tracking category available: Pages with non-numeric formatnum arguments. It collects pages which use the {{formatnum}} parser function with invalid (non-numeric) input, e.g. {{formatnum:TECHNEWS}}. Note that {{formatnum:123,456}} is also invalid input: as described in the documentation, the argument should be unformatted so that it can be reliably and correctly localised. The tracking category will help identify problematic usage and double-formatting. The new tracking category's name can be translated at translatewiki. [20]

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from November 3. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from November 4. It will be on all wikis from November 5 (calendar).
  • Administrators and stewards will be able to use a special page (Special:CreateLocalAccount) to force local account creation for a global account. This is useful when account creation is blocked for that user (by a block or a filter). [21]
  • The Reply tool will be offered as an opt-in Beta Feature on most Wikipedias on November 4. This change excludes the English, Russian, and German-language Wikipedias, plus a few smaller Wikipedias with special circumstances. You can read the help page and the troubleshooting guide for more information. [22]

Future changes

  • A discussion has been restarted about using a Unicode minus sign (− U+2212) in the output of {{formatnum}} when it is given a negative argument. [23]
  • In the future IP addresses of unregistered users will not be shown for everyone. They will get an alias instead. There will be a new user right or an opt-in function for more vandal fighters to see the IPs of unregistered users. There would be some criteria for who gets the user right or opt-in. There will also be other new tools to help handle vandalism. This is early in the process and the developers are still collecting information from the communities before they suggest solutions.

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16:08, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

"Draft:2028 United States presidential election" listed at Redirects for discussion

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Your draft article, Draft:Demolition Man 2

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 17:18, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Pirates of the Carribean 6

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 19:28, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Maze Runner 4

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 00:08, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Tenth generation of video game consoles

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 00:09, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-46

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week

  • There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Future changes

  • You can see reference previews. This shows a preview of the footnote when you hover over it. This has been a beta feature. It will move out of beta and be enabled by default. There will be an option not to use it. The developers are looking for small or medium-sized wikis to be the first ones. You can let them know if your wiki is interested. [24]
  • From November 16 the categories will not be sorted in order for a short time. This is because the developers are upgrading to a new version of the internationalisation library. They will use a script to fix the existing categories. This can take a few hours or a few days depending on how big the wiki is. You can read more. [25][26]

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15:49, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Polygala gerrardii

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 00:19, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Unreal Engine 5

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 17:39, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-47

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  • Listings on category pages are sorted on each wiki for that language using a library. For a brief period on 16 November, changes to categories will not be sorted correctly for most languages. This is because the developers are upgrading to a new version of the library. They will then use a script to fix the existing categories. This will take a few hours or a few days depending on how big the wiki is. You can read more. [27][28]

Changes later this week

  • If you merged two pages in a namespace where pages can't redirect this used to break the merge history. This will now be fixed. [29]
  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 17 November. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 18 November. It will be on all wikis from 19 November (calendar).

Future changes

  • The Community Wishlist Survey is now open for proposals. The survey decides what the Community Tech team will work on. You can post proposals from 16 to 30 November. You can vote on proposals from 8 December to 21 December.

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15:35, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Community (film)

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 01:45, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Songbird (upcoming film)

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 01:06, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Untitled Jurassic Park series

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 15:48, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-48

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Recent changes

  • Timestamps in Special:Log are now links. They go to Special:Log for only that entry. This is how timestamps work on for example the history page. [30]

Changes later this week

  • There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Future changes

  • Advanced item The Wikimedia Cloud VPS hosts technical projects for the Wikimedia movement. Developers need to claim projects they use. This is because old and unused projects are removed once a year. Unclaimed projects can be shut down from 1 December. Unclaimed projects can be deleted from 1 January. [31]

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17:17, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

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Ways to improve Alyssa Wapanatâh

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I have tagged the page as having some issues to fix, as a part of our page curation process and note that:

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Tech News: 2020-49

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  • Advanced item The Wiki Replicas can be used for SQL queries. You can use Quarry, PAWS or other ways to do this. To make the Wiki Replicas stable there will be two changes. Cross-database JOINS will no longer work. You can also only query a database if you connect to it directly. This will happen in February 2021. If you think this affects you and you need help you can post on Phabricator or on Wikitech. [34]

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17:43, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Reply

Sorry if it came off as me looking to spite you or anything, that was definitely not the intention. I'm hoping we can still collaborate on future articles. Rusted AutoParts 02:28, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2020-50

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  • You can now put pages on your watchlist for a limited period of time. Some wikis already had this function. [35][36]

Changes later this week

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  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 8 December. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 9 December. It will be on all wikis from 10 December (calendar).

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16:14, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Untitled Wanted sequel

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In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 20:04, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

why did you do that?

we were discussing that for weeks and there was the consensus. why did you revert?Arglebargle79 (talk) 00:07, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

sorry but link? Starzoner (talk) 00:08, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
Timeline of the 2020 United States presidential election

Arglebargle79 (talk) 02:40, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Who is we?. Starzoner (talk) 02:58, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

@Zzyzx11, and some others.Arglebargle79 (talk) 03:22, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

No, see Talk:Timeline of the 2020 United States presidential election#Isn't this supposed to be the 2017-2019 page? I do not recall "some others" in the previous Talk:Timeline of the 2020 United States presidential election#Split this in three? discussions, nor do I currently agree with how Arglebargle79 split the page differently than what was originally proposed. Zzyzx11 (talk) 09:52, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Draft: The High Republic (film)

Hi! I saw your draft, draft:Star Wars: The High Republic (film). The draft was created with not much evidence, but yesterday HUGE Star Wars news came out and a High Republic series, headed by Leslye Headland, was in production. It's called The Acolyte. There ought to be a bunch of sources out there and let me know if you want me to find them. Anyway, I thought you might want to change the draft content to fit the new news. If you want to keep this draft instead, a different draft could be created. Either way, please let me know. Thanks and happy holidays, Dswitz10734 (talk) 20:59, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

up to you. Starzoner (talk) 21:09, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

Lightyear

Letting you know there’s a duplicate draft at Draft:Lightyear (2022 film) Rusted AutoParts 03:49, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of Diary of a Wimpy Kid (2021 film) for deletion

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Nomination of Night at the Museum: Kahmunrah Rises Again for deletion

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Nomination of Cheaper by the Dozen (2022 film) for deletion

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Your draft article, Draft:Peggy Jo

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21:33, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Please comment out categories

Per WP:USERNOCAT, your many, many user subpages should not be placed in article categories such as Category:Pleurothallis. Please comment out the categories for all those user subpages using one of the methods in the guideline page that I linked. Thanks in advance, UnitedStatesian (talk) 06:26, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

Alyssa Wapanatâhk moved to draftspace

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Your draft article, Draft:Spencer (film)

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Your draft article, Draft:The Chain (film)

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Your draft article, Draft:Mamma Mia! 3

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Your page moves

Please make meaningful moves, and not ones that are attempt to "get rid" of names, such as what you did around the Boba Fett series. Both Draft:Untitled Boba Fett series and Draft:The Book of Boba Fett should be retained for their history at those names right after a move. At some point down the line, they probably can be deleted properly through CSD of AFD, but right after a move they are useful to retain. If you wanted to make new redirects at articles names that have yet to be created, just do that. Don't move a draft there to get that namespace. Please be more cognizant of your actions in the future, as they are being viewed as unhelpful/disruptive. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 16:23, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Favre1fan93, ok. Starzoner (talk) 16:42, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:TrollsTopia

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Your draft article, Draft:Untitled Jumanji film

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! Nathan2055talk - contribs 00:15, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

Allium pyrenaicum

I notice you moved the existing article Allium pyrenaicum to Allium Pyrenaicum and overwrote the text with a redirect, then moved your own draft to Allium pyrenaicum. I have reverted those changes. If an article on a subject exists, please edit it. Do not attempt to expunge it and replace it in that manner. William Avery (talk) 09:44, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

It might be useful to re-familiarise yourself with the occasions when it is acceptable to move pages without leaving a redirect, at WP:PMRC. William Avery (talk) 10:07, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

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Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! adamstom97 (talk) 19:30, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

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Your draft article, Draft:Twister (upcoming film)

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Pleurothallis

Hi I’ve pinged you but I’m not sure if it worked. Pleurothallis attenuata doesn’t currently have a reference and Pleurothallis aurantiolateritia has a misdirected ref. I’ve patrolled the others. If you want to ping me when you’ve fixed these two I’ll pass them as well. All the best Mccapra (talk) 08:20, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

Double check citations

Hey, you might want to double check your edits when you are filling out citations. Here, you added the author's name twice. I think a bot will fix it, but you should try to catch it when you can. BOVINEBOY2008 18:41, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

Hey Bovineboy2008, OOF sorry. I just clicked edit, then clicked on the ref, and used VE's automatic citation software, and just added it. didn't "touch" the citation. Starzoner (talk) 18:42, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
No worries, I figured it was something automated! BOVINEBOY2008 18:44, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Untitled Aladdin spinoff

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Your draft article, Draft:Paddington 3

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Quality control on plant articles

Your article Acianthera herzogii has that name as title and lead, then another taxon in the Speciesbox and then another species in the categories. Declangi (talk) 22:31, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

Its called synonyms. I fixed it. Starzoner (talk) 22:37, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

Pleurothallis cactantha

Needs a source Mccapra (talk) 09:20, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

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Disappointed

I am disappointed you did nothing in response to User talk:Starzoner/Archive 4#Please comment out categories, or even acknowledged it. It looks like it is an issue for WP:ANI. UnitedStatesian (talk) 22:20, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

UnitedStatesian, I'll get to it now. Starzoner (talk) 22:29, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
Thanks! UnitedStatesian (talk) 02:29, 31 December 2020 (UTC)


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Pleurothallis cactantha moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, Pleurothallis cactantha, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Onel5969 TT me 12:46, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

It was a synonym of another species anyways. Starzoner, please check the status of each name against a database like Plants of the World Online before moving additional species articles out of draft space or creating new species articles. IPNI is not a database of accepted names, it just lists all published names, whether or not they are currently accepted; IPNI is not an acceptable reference for a single-reference article. It would also be more helpful to expand existing articles than to create thousands of one-sentence stubs. —Hyperik ⌜talk⌟ 23:53, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
@Onel5969:/someone, can you help with some more? These are all unaccepted synonyms/not active in Plants of the World Online. This is a huge amount of clean-up needed and not sure if there may be some sort of option for rolling edits back on a larger scale?
The past guidance provided here is extensive, largely unheeded, continually problematic, and I'm not sure how best to proceed. Thanks, —Hyperik ⌜talk⌟ 02:31, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
Hyperik, would be happy to help, but IPNI looks like a reliable source. Can't find any issues with it being discussed on WP:RSN. Is there a discussion about this source? Regarding these now existing articles, not sure how to contribute in fixing them. Take Pleurothallis viridiflora - would I move that to Specklinia viridiflora, and then change the genus in the infobox to Specklinia? As well as changing the source to this? Onel5969 TT me 03:25, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
IPNI is a reliable source, it just can't be used as a reliable source that a particular name is the currently accepted name. Your steps laid out are correct as a start. Aside from the text and speciesbox, the taxon category and taxonbar also get updated to the new name and Wikidata item. The distribution/range listed in the text and categories also needs to be compared to POWO, because IPNI typically only lists where the holotype was collected rather than listing its entire distribution. The stub template needs two blank lines after the last category, and should be updated to "Epidendreae-stub" rather than the coarser "orchid-stub". Also "species of orchid plant" is a bit awkward, so I've also been changing that to "species of orchid". (Which is essentially the whole article being rewritten.) Thanks! —Hyperik ⌜talk⌟ 03:45, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
Hyperik, thanks for the info, but while willing, I think it best if I leave the changes to those who know far more about taxonomy than I. After looking at several, I'm afraid I'd just muck it up. Onel5969 TT me 14:54, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
@Onel5969: Thanks for asking! Yes, complex. It's problems like this that there's good reason to have a bot review process. —Hyperik ⌜talk⌟ 15:21, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
just stop right here. I'll manually fix them all. Starzoner (talk) 02:38, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
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