Talk:Short-term memory
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Biological Basis
I don't have time to make the edits, but just wanted to post a warning that the mechanisms outlined under this heading (exhaustion of neurotransmitter stores) are inconsequential at best. The neural correlates of short term memory have been researched in extensive detail, and catalogue a suite of evolutionarily conserved mechanisms involved in synapse potentiation. This review details 50 years of said research: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22496389 Niubrad (talk) 12:32, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
- Neurons have memory true (facilitation, habituation etc) but both organized and random circuits have memory in the form of reverberation, propagation. What article discusses short-term memory as a non-mental phenomenon, i.e. as a property of systems that process and represent information (i.e. systems that are not trivial or stochastic)?.
http://www.scholarpedia.org/article/Memory.Mrdthree (talk) 08:21, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
Comment
form of evidence cited in favor of thjjyjfghe separate existence of a short-term store is that anterograde amnesia, the inability to learn new facts and episodes, affects long-term memory while leaving short-term memory intact. Other evidence comes from experimental studies showing that some manipulations (e.g., a distractor task following learning) affect only memory for the 3 to 5 most recently learned words of a list (presumably still held in short-term memory), whereas other manipulations (e.g., semantic similarity of the words) affect only memory for earlier list words (Davelaar et al., 2005)
Someone who understands this statement should conclude the paragraph with an explanatory sentence. My sense is that most people aren't able to make the connection between these two facts and the question of whether there are two separate stores.
- I have tried to clarify this paragraph with some additional information about the experimental procedures used to dissociate short vs. long-term memory processes. Please comment or add questions if it's not clear. Just1n cas3 01:14, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Keeping references and notes
The way this article keeps citations and references seems a little inefficient since the section 'notes' only has authors and year, and a 'bibliography' section has the full references, but is not accessible via links from the main text. Maybe the full references should be added to a single section that can be linked from the main text. I will move a few as I read the article. The official recommendations for citing sources in Wikipedia do not seem to be too strict. --Sjara (talk) 22:30, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
Vs. Working memory
I'm not sure the way STM is distinguished from working memory is clear or helpful. Most modern books on the subject seem to use the terms more or less interchangeably, or see WM as the more modern term for STM. The term is different, it implies active processing, but I think Baddeley intended WM to replace STM - the same thing but more detailed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lord Spring Onion (talk • contribs) 22:18, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
It is 2021 and the memory article reads that they are the same. But, the short-term article says they are different. Can someone knowledgeable clarify this, please?
George Rodney Maruri Game (talk) 03:04, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
Working memory vs. Short-term memory
Working memory vs. Short-term memory There is no consistency in the information provided in these articles Quoting article «Working memory»: «What we now call working memory was referred to as a "short-term store" or short-term memory, primary memory, immediate memory, operant memory, or provisional memory.[5] Short-term memory is the ability to remember information over a brief period of time (in the order of seconds). Most theorists today use the concept of working memory to replace or include the older concept of short-term memory, thereby marking a stronger emphasis on the notion of manipulation of information instead of passive maintenance.»
Quoting article «Short-term memory»: «Short-term memory (STM) (or "primary" or "active memory") is the capacity for holding a small amount of information in mind in an active, readily available state for a short period of time. The duration of short-term memory (when rehearsal or active maintenance is prevented) is believed to be in the order of seconds. Estimates of short-term memory capacity are 7 plus or minus 2 units, depending upon the experimental design used to estimate capacity. A commonly-cited capacity is 7±2 elements. In contrast, long-term memory indefinitely stores a seemingly unlimited amount of information. Short-term memory should be distinguished from working memory which refers to structures and processes used for temporarily storing and manipulating information (see more details below).» 89.180.22.209 (talk) 00:54, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
I believe that the information about Miller (1956) should be included in the introduction. His MIT paper about short term memory was extremely crucial to the future information and studying of short term memoryMonica Devin Smith (talk) 01:06, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
Episodic memory
Episodic memory is used in this article without being defined appropriately. Candy (talk) 01:11, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
- Hi Candy! I made a wikilink of episodic memory - do you think that is enough? If not, please be bold and add a definition! Lova Falk talk 10:17, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
Hi Lova Falk. The link seems fine. I would have done it myself but I was in a big rush at the time. Thanks. :)
Ultra short-term memory
I think this should be mentioned. Paradoctor (talk) 21:32, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
- reference? Dbrodbeck (talk) 22:32, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
Where goes Memory in the information processing sense?
For computational neuroscience and neural network theorists, definitions of memory do not reference information "held in mind" they reference information processing definitions of memory; the persistence of information (in a system) over different time periods. For instance the application or explanation of psychological data in terms of animal models or computational models all assume that the information "held in mind" has a counterpart in neural signals. Moreover the term is generalized beyond the psychological meaning to mean any system that store information temporarily has a short-term memory. Does wikipedia deal with these contrasting meanings? 63.175.124.34 (talk) 08:08, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
Suspect Baddeley anaphor
Within Baddeley's influential 1986 model of working memory there are two short-term storage mechanisms: the phonological loop and the visuospatial sketchpad. Most of the research referred to here involves the phonological loop, because most of the work done on short-term memory has used verbal material.
I presume 'here' means [baseline expositions of] Baddeley's model, because it's self-defeating, otherwise. — MaxEnt 22:24, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
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