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Bryan Whyte (motivational speaker)

I can't see the problem about this article, except that it is about person from Uganda , who might be unknown to you but I provided multiple sources about his activity, which is remarkable for people of his age. Yes, he is not a lame soccer player or pseudo celebrity. He just works for his country and for its people. I read all the articles about him and there is a page in Wikipedia about the foundation he runs. This foundation helps thousands of people. I will reinstate the page and you ay contact me anytime to discuss it. --Drjmarkov (talk) 15:15, 28 March 2023 (UTC)-[reply]


Blank and redirect

Hi Fram, please do not blank and redirect my ship articles. We both want to improve Wikipedia, but we often disagree diametrically on how to do that. Although I often do not get my preferred outcome, I think these disagreements should go through the PROD/AfD process. That way other editors that have access to different databases than I do or to library resources I don't have, have a chance to improve an article, an outcome that I believe we both want. Thank you. Acad Ronin (talk) 04:23, 5 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Acad Ronin: thank you for reaching out. I'll put the ones I believe to be problematic (as stand alone articles, I have no issue with the veracity) up for AfD (not all at once obviously). Some people complained at the AfDs that no alternatives like redirection where tried first, so it's a bit "damned if you do, damned if you don't" here, but I guess people will drop that specific complaint now. Fram (talk) 08:48, 6 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

February 2023

Hi Fram. I just wanted to get your opinion on something. I read that the band Taproot has a new website for their merchandise (http://taprootmerch.com). On their official Facebook and Twitter pages they said it was their offical store. I tried to add the link to the Wikipedia article about them Taproot (band) under "External links" but someone named "Revirvlkodlaku" kept deleting it. Would you consider that link to be acceptable to add to the article? Thanks for your time. T Yorke (talk) 05:19, 5 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Even with confirmation that it is the official store, I don't believe such a link to be acceptable. External links should provide real information, not a shop. Fram (talk) 08:49, 6 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

OK thanks. T Yorke (talk) 20:20, 6 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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I saw you put that up for speedy deletion: thanks. It comes out of a sock farm that I'm trying to document at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Dictations. Take care, Drmies (talk) 22:15, 14 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I'll try to keep an eye out for them. Fram (talk) 08:01, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

About COVID articles in China

Hello, Fram. I want to remind you of some things about the COVID situation in China. First, Wikipedia is officially blocked in China since 2019 (before the pandemic), so wikipedia users in China just can't go from one neighborhood or town to the next, collect the necessary information and send it to wiki HQ. People there could not leave their own neighborhoods sometimes, much less travel between cities. It is also hard for journalists outside of China to go there due to cross-border travel restrictions. The Chinese government has such a complete control over the media that any independent source will have incomplete information on some localities and next to nothing on a few others. I am not trying to be a "government mouthpiece", I am just filling in information gaps. Please talk to users FIxer88 and Rethliopuks, who know more about this topic than me. I would like to start working on other topics.Ziping53 (talk) 16:15, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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CSD C1 notices

Hello, Fram,

Most of these speedy deletion notifications are because of a change on ONE article (Starhemberg) that had a cascading effect...such is the house of cards that is the Wikipedia's hierarchical category structure. The date or location gets changed on one article and a dozen categories are suddenly emptied. I can omit you receiving these notices if you like but I think you prefer receiving them in case a category has been changed or emptied out of process. Still, I feel sheepish filling your talk page with CSD notices so just let me know if you would like to stop being notified.

Thank you and have a good week! Liz Read! Talk! 23:00, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Liz: thank you! I don't mind the notices, as they sometimes allow me to refill incorrectly emptied categories. For these "current country, older years" ones, I have mostly giving up arguing with the hardliners who only want the "older years, older country" combination and can't seem to accept that both approaches have their use and are correct depending on your point of view ("what happens in current geographic location X before it was established as such?" is of interest to many more readers than "what happened in no longer existing geographic entity in year X", but the latter is what the hardliners will only accept). Fram (talk) 08:45, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Template

Sorry about that. Didn't notice you somehow were identified as the creator of the article. Clearly it was the UPE/COI editor. Onel5969 TT me 13:23, 2 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Fram undoes changes without consultation

Biography must not be abused to harm charity association.

Fram does not even write a word when undoes changes.

How do i stop the abuse of Fram ?

How do i file a complaint against Fram ? Johnvandeput (talk) 14:09, 2 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please see WP:NPOV, WP:RS, and for all your messages WP:CANVASS. Going around posting to supposed opponents of people to get them to support you is not allowed on Wikpedia. And see WP:BRD: you made a bold change, were reverted, and then need to discuss it on the article talk page. You have not indicated why the Times article is incorrect. If you don't want the biography to discuss the charity, then everything about the charity should go. But wanting to keep the discussion of the charity when it is positive, but trying to remove it when it is negative, won't fly. Fram (talk) 14:12, 2 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, Fram,
I removed the single article that this category contained as it didn't say anywhere in its content that it was established in 1950. Liz Read! Talk! 01:35, 5 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keele World Affairs - deletion?

Hi, You've put this page down for euthanasia, saying: No evidence found of any notability. The KWA is ""Europe's Leading Series of Lecture Meetings on International Politics and World affairs". Isn't that notable? So why not leave it for a bit and seen how the site develops? Arrivisto (talk) 13:30, 6 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No, the KWA claims about itself that is the "leading series". Any organisation can make such claims about themselves, that doesn't give any indication of notability.
Fram (talk) 15:17, 6 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Deleted page

Hello! I’m confused to why you deleted my page? About the princess.Arberian2444 (talk) 15:06, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

She isn't notable, she is a very young child who hasn't done anything, but is worth a mention in the article of her father (where she was already included). The sources and awards you provided are not independent (and even then, former royal families or noble families congratulating one another with meaningless titles isn't an indication of notability either). It's not even clear if she, as a girl, is supposed to be the future head of the family (i.e. claimant to the throne), or whether they only accept male pretendents. Fram (talk) 15:09, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I looked on other pages and I’ve seen princes/princess who have their own page and are younger than her and aren’t notable that’s why I was a little confused.Arberian2444 (talk) 15:11, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Apart from truly notable ones (like the English prince Archie, or the heir to the actual throne in Luxembourg), we shouldn't have separate comparable pages. Fram (talk) 15:20, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

So would one be made for her once she’s older and inherits the “throne”? Thanks again!Arberian2444 (talk) 15:32, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If she would then get more attention, probably yes. Most such claimants have an article, as most of them get written about by newspapers and magazines. Fram (talk) 15:57, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

UEFA Youth final

Hi, I was wondering why you want to delete this page but not the other finals pages? Every season of UEFA has a finals page, Champions, Europa, Europa Conference and Youth. thanks Tomrtn (talk) 16:20, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps the others need deletion as well, I just saw this one when checking new pages and thought it better to redirect it. Fram (talk) 16:23, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
That's a lot of pages across quite a few football tournaments not only does UEFA pages have them but CONCACAF, OFC, AFC, CAF, CONMEBOL and FIFA tournaments have finals page also. Tomrtn (talk) 16:31, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
All youth tournaments? Or do you mean senior tournaments? Fram (talk) 16:35, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
all tournaments, this is a major tournament put on my UEFA.Tomrtn (talk) 16:36, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
All what? I don't see a page for e.g. a comparable Concacaf youth tournament final. Fram (talk) 16:37, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Please don't change your comment after someone has replied to it. And no, this tournament is way, waaayyy less major than the senior UEFA tournaments. Fram (talk) 16:40, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Can you rev and protect the Mckenna Grace article? That new photo is a professional, studio photograph and thus DEFINITELY a copyright violation. AUSPOLLIE (talk) 20:39, 8 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The proper venue to request protection is WP:RFPP, and Fram is not an administrator.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:53, 8 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Church of Saint Athanasius (Metaxades, Evros)

Hi,

Thanks for spotting the copyright issues with Church of Saint Athanasius (Metaxades, Evros). I didn't delete the article because I could only determine that the architecture section was a problem and opted to remove the section and apply revdel instead. I did see in the source site that you gave that the page is Part B. I tried the link to Part A on that page but I get a page not found. I am not sure if that Part A may be relevant. If the remaining part of the article is still problematic with respect to copyright, please let me know what I missed and I will take care of it. Cheers. -- Whpq (talk) 19:48, 9 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Nomination of VKG Royal Controller for deletion

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User:Dweisz94 has been reported at ANI

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.

This user has now been reported to ANI due to their persistent disruptive behaviour. I just thought I'd notify you of the discussion as you were involved in them at least once in the past, with them directing a personal attack toward you: Special:Diff/1143238219

AP 499D25 (talk) 01:41, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Well spotted. I started on it in my sandbox a few weeks ago and couldn't find enough on her so left it. Just writing a monastery article I cleared it out of my sandbox and did a test to see if anybody would notice! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:16, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. It could well be that there are sources in older newspapers, but for now she was the epitome of passing mentions :-) Fram (talk) 14:20, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
In Google Books there was a picture of her in a play in 1952, and she was supposed to have had a more notable stage career than film and TV but really couldn't find anything about her at all. Oh well, no big loss!♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:40, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Ethylene dimethacrylate

Please can you delete this draft?. My research says it is the same as an existing article. GRALISTAIR (talk) 14:41, 16 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You can tag it with {{Db-g7}}, indicating that you as the sole author wants to delete it. Fram (talk) 14:45, 16 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Viola Schitter page moved to draft.

Hi Fram, You recently moved Viola Schitter page from mainspace to draft for notability she's in forbes 30 under 30 and had many media coverage of her she's an austrian entrepreneur. Why you moved her page? Notsofurious (talk) 06:01, 25 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

AfD of Challenger Tournaments

Can you tell me a bit more about the out come of this AfD? Why didn't you proceed with the merges? I believe it was seen as a to much a task, but maybe you have another explanation. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 20:07, 25 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, too much work, too little time. There are hundreds of these... Fram (talk) 07:33, 27 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]